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Post by heathcliff on Aug 27, 2012 22:35:20 GMT -5
I hope this is not too "negative", but I have to say that I am a bit bothered by Adam doing this MATINEE show. Yes, I understand that it is another of DMG's attempt to promote Adam to a gay audience.
But my concern is that DMG seems to be promoting Adam as a "gay entertainer" and that will not only limit Adam's appeal to the mainstream, but will actually limit Adam's appeal to the gay male audience.
Last Thursday, I tuned in to "Derek and Romaine", the evening show on OUT-Q on Sirius. There was a discussion going on about why gay men were not more supportive of gay male performers. Adam's name was a part of the discussion. If someone heard more of the show, perhaps they can fill me in. But one key statement by Derek is relevant here. He said gay men do not accept someone who is just on the cover of The Advocate, they will support someone only after that someone is on the cover of TIME. In other words, if a gay artist can't sell himself to the mainstream, don't look for gay people to support him.
I wanted to write to Derek and say that Adam is pretty much accepted as a mainstream performer in most of the world. It is only in America that major success alludes him, and I believe that is because of homophobia. But I am waiting to get filled in on what the total discussion was (as I only heard a few sentences).
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Post by jean1010 on Aug 27, 2012 22:40:40 GMT -5
I think that the last season's judging panel got such a bad reaction from viewers that Idol knew it had to get rid of everyone and start fresh. But they wanted to resign JLo -- she just asked for too much money. I was under the impression, probably mistaken, that not coming to terms was a way for JLO to save face, but Idol wanted her out. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2012 22:43:09 GMT -5
That makes me sad, heathcliff. I don't mind saying, his answer really doesn't make sense. BTW, what out gay man has been on the cover of TIME?
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Post by heathcliff on Aug 27, 2012 22:43:44 GMT -5
I need to modify my comment. I do believe Adam is a major success, but not a MAJOR success.
Even that silly GRAMMY poll leaves off his name. He just doesn't seem to get his due.
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Post by jean1010 on Aug 27, 2012 22:47:39 GMT -5
I hope this is not too "negative", but I have to say that I am a bit bothered by Adam doing this MATINEE show. Yes, I understand that it is another of DMG's attempt to promote Adam to a gay audience. But my concern is that DMG seems to be promoting Adam as a "gay entertainer" and that will not only limit Adam's appeal to the mainstream, but will actually limit Adam's appeal to the gay male audience. Last Thursday, I tuned in to "Derek and Romaine", the evening show on OUT-Q on Sirius. There was a discussion going on about why gay men were not more supportive of gay male performers. Adam's name was a part of the discussion. If someone heard more of the show, perhaps they can fill me in. But one key statement by Derek is relevant here. He said gay men do not accept someone who is just on the cover of The Advocate, they will support someone only after that someone is on the cover of TIME. In other words, if a gay artist can't sell himself to the mainstream, don't look for gay people to support him. I wanted to write to Derek and say that Adam is pretty much accepted as a mainstream performer in most of the world. It is only in America that major success alludes him, and I believe that is because of homophobia. But I am waiting to get filled in on what the total discussion was (as I only heard a few sentences). Talk about a double standard. The gay community seems to support female pop signers that never grace the cover of time. Adams main support has come from straight women. That is pretty mainstream. |
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Post by junkets on Aug 27, 2012 22:47:42 GMT -5
I hope this is not too "negative", but I have to say that I am a bit bothered by Adam doing this MATINEE show. Yes, I understand that it is another of DMG's attempt to promote Adam to a gay audience. But my concern is that DMG seems to be promoting Adam as a "gay entertainer" and that will not only limit Adam's appeal to the mainstream, but will actually limit Adam's appeal to the gay male audience. Last Thursday, I tuned in to "Derek and Romaine", the evening show on OUT-Q on Sirius. There was a discussion going on about why gay men were not more supportive of gay male performers. Adam's name was a part of the discussion. If someone heard more of the show, perhaps they can fill me in. But one key statement by Derek is relevant here. He said gay men do not accept someone who is just on the cover of The Advocate, they will support someone only after that someone is on the cover of TIME. In other words, if a gay artist can't sell himself to the mainstream, don't look for gay people to support him. I wanted to write to Derek and say that Adam is pretty much accepted as a mainstream performer in most of the world. It is only in America that major success alludes him, and I believe that is because of homophobia. But I am waiting to get filled in on what the total discussion was (as I only heard a few sentences). I completely understand what you are saying, heathcliff. I worry too, but Adam has more mainstream acceptance here than, say, Scissor Sisters. I hope they are trying to promote him as a viable club artist and not a gay artist. That's what they did with Gaga, but we all know this is unexplored territory and not just with a provocative female pretending to be bi (ala Gaga, Madonna, professing to be "experimental" but sooooo flaming straight in the end!) Scissor Sisters gets loads more respect, though, from the gay community. I'm still kind of at a loss about the open hostility toward Adam. |
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Post by Q3 on Aug 27, 2012 22:47:55 GMT -5
Interesting article. Thanks for posting, Nica. And I agree, of course, with the quote--except for the "possible" part. I'm loling at the comments defending Keith Urban. They are just what people accuse "defensive Glamberts" to be like. Hmmm. Not a country fan, as I've mentioned before. So Keith Urban to me is more or less a pretty face and cool accent. I would say, though, that clearly this writer is clueless. Urban is definitely the bigger "get" than Paisley--or even Sheldon was for The Voice. Paisley is widely respected, Sheldon, ehh, not so much. He really only took off with The Voice and talent is seen as pretty middling here. But Urban is by far the biggest star. And, please, this statement: "Even artists who started off as rock are now singing with Reba and moving to Nashville (Kelly Clarkson)." Kelly is rock? Really? When? :  Guess they just needed someone to plug into their thesis. Brad Paisley is possible the #1 male country star in the US right now. And Brad is bigger than Keith Urban by far. Brad Paisley's Virtual Reality Tour is the #1 country tour -- www.theboot.com/2012/05/04/brad-paisley-virtual-reality-tour-extended/ Brad Paisley VRT Ticket $35-$62 Last album (2011) peaked at #2 Billboard 200/#1 US Country Keith Urban Tickets (doing casinos, amphitheaters and small arenas) $20 (Bangor ME) Last album (2010) peaked at #7 Billboard 200/#2 US Country |
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Post by nica575 on Aug 27, 2012 22:49:02 GMT -5
I hope this is not too "negative", but I have to say that I am a bit bothered by Adam doing this MATINEE show. Yes, I understand that it is another of DMG's attempt to promote Adam to a gay audience. But my concern is that DMG seems to be promoting Adam as a "gay entertainer" and that will not only limit Adam's appeal to the mainstream, but will actually limit Adam's appeal to the gay male audience. Last Thursday, I tuned in to "Derek and Romaine", the evening show on OUT-Q on Sirius. There was a discussion going on about why gay men were not more supportive of gay male performers. Adam's name was a part of the discussion. If someone heard more of the show, perhaps they can fill me in. But one key statement by Derek is relevant here. He said gay men do not accept someone who is just on the cover of The Advocate, they will support someone only after that someone is on the cover of TIME. In other words, if a gay artist can't sell himself to the mainstream, don't look for gay people to support him.I wanted to write to Derek and say that Adam is pretty much accepted as a mainstream performer in most of the world. It is only in America that major success alludes him, and I believe that is because of homophobia. But I am waiting to get filled in on what the total discussion was (as I only heard a few sentences). all I can say is: SAD.... not supporting their own is not good for any minority... honestly - I have the same reaction as you, i.e. I am concerned that Adam is mostly exposed to gay audiences and not really exposed to mainstream audiences... but this is the case of "more mainstream" is needed as opposed to "less gay" exposure .... |
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Post by junkets on Aug 27, 2012 22:49:37 GMT -5
That makes me sad, heathcliff. I don't mind saying, his answer really doesn't make sense. BTW, what out gay man has been on the cover of TIME? NPH is the standard bearer. He hasn't been, but he *could* be. |
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Post by junkets on Aug 27, 2012 22:53:38 GMT -5
Interesting article. Thanks for posting, Nica. And I agree, of course, with the quote--except for the "possible" part. I'm loling at the comments defending Keith Urban. They are just what people accuse "defensive Glamberts" to be like. Hmmm. Not a country fan, as I've mentioned before. So Keith Urban to me is more or less a pretty face and cool accent. I would say, though, that clearly this writer is clueless. Urban is definitely the bigger "get" than Paisley--or even Sheldon was for The Voice. Paisley is widely respected, Sheldon, ehh, not so much. He really only took off with The Voice and talent is seen as pretty middling here. But Urban is by far the biggest star. And, please, this statement: "Even artists who started off as rock are now singing with Reba and moving to Nashville (Kelly Clarkson)." Kelly is rock? Really? When? : Guess they just needed someone to plug into their thesis. Brad Paisley is possible the #1 male country star in the US right now. And Brad is bigger than Keith Urban by far. Brad Paisley's Virtual Reality Tour is the #1 country tour -- www.theboot.com/2012/05/04/brad-paisley-virtual-reality-tour-extended/ Brad Paisley VRT Ticket $35-$62 Last album (2011) peaked at #2 Billboard 200/#1 US Country Keith Urban Tickets (doing casinos, amphitheaters and small arenas) $20 (Bangor ME) Last album (2010) peaked at #7 Billboard 200/#2 US Country I respectfully disagree, Q3. Keith Urban is a much bigger star. I know who Brad Paisley is. But so many people were saying, "Who's this Paisley dude?" Nobody was saying that about Urban. I guess I need to clarify. Keith Urban is the biggest "star." Paisley may have bigger in sales in Country tho. |
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Guess they just needed someone to plug into their thesis.