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Post by maddie509 on Nov 19, 2012 12:35:40 GMT -5
Thank you SO much! That is exactly what I was curious about. Even the #10 album hasn't sold 1 mil. And Beibs with 30 mil followers will just be slightly over a million. Selling albums is tough! OK, I am going to stand my prediction that Trespassing will make Top 150!  Thanks again, maddie! 
You're very welcome!
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Post by jean1010 on Nov 20, 2012 14:27:58 GMT -5
Wow, record labels must really be having a hard time. Sites like Spotify and Rhapsody are probable taking a big bite out of CD sales along with piracy and single buying. Why buy when you can stream so inexpensively and conveniently. I wonder how long they can hang on with just a very small number of artists being really profitable. Adam is in a good spot being a proven concert draw, but what is in that for RCA?
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Post by melliemom on Nov 20, 2012 16:36:40 GMT -5
Wow, record labels must really be having a hard time. Sites like Spotify and Rhapsody are probable taking a big bite out of CD sales along with piracy and single buying. Why buy when you can stream so inexpensively and conveniently. I wonder how long they can hang on with just a very small number of artists being really profitable. Adam is in a good spot being a proven concert draw, but what is in that for RCA? For Adam maybe it works in reverse ,people hear and see him in concert and then want his album. |
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Post by maddie509 on Nov 21, 2012 2:04:28 GMT -5
I wonder how long they can hang on with just a very small number of artists being really profitable. Adam is in a good spot being a proven concert draw, but what is in that for RCA?
By "that", if you meant what was in his concert sales for RCA? Typically, especially in the old days, record companies get nothing from artists' concert revenues, but time has changed. I know Adam has said he doesn't have a 360 but idol contracts are a bit similar to 360 at certain stage, so without looking at his actual contract, anything else is just guesswork.
As for your other question, here is an article entitled "The New Economics of the Music Industry", www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-new-economics-of-the-music-industry-20111025 . It outlines some of the major income sources for artists and record companies in the digital age, with numbers breakdown to show how much of a slice they each get.
And, if you're interested in an in-depth industry report, "Investing In Music" just came out last week.
" 'Investing in Music' is published today by IFPI, representing the recording industry worldwide, in association with WIN, representing independent labels internationally. With fresh data and scores of case studies, the report outlines the evolving and enduring partnership between labels and artists in the digital world."
" Alison Wenham, chair of WIN, says: "Today, the relationship between the artists performing music and the investors supporting them has subtly changed and is continuing to evolve. The traditional model of significant advances and marketing support from larger record companies to artists remains widely in place, but there is now a greater emphasis on partnership, shared skills and shared revenues." (maybe the future of the music industry???)
source: www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/investing_in_music.html
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Post by maddie509 on Nov 21, 2012 2:36:44 GMT -5
Here is this week's top 10: (according to Daily Double)
And, Susan Boyle's Standing Ovation made it to #12 with 44,090 copies.
Xtina's last album Bionic (2010) debuted at #3 on BB200 with the first-week sales of 110,000 copies, and has since sold 312,000 copies in the US and over 750,000 worldwide by the end of 2011 estimated by "Media Traffic".
Lotus debuted at #28 on UK Official Top 40 Albums Chart with 9422 copies sold.
ETA: Lotus dropped to #76 on UK Official Albums Chart.
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Post by Coconutgrove0 on Nov 21, 2012 14:55:08 GMT -5
Probably my first visit here....
Looking at the album sales of TP it wouldn't hurt the sales if some portion of these MAMA's 1,9 billion viewers decided to go and buy the Trespassing album. Doesn't count in the US, but who cares, as long as he's selling and is an international star, right?
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Post by jean1010 on Nov 21, 2012 18:36:23 GMT -5
Probably my first visit here.... Looking at the album sales of TP it wouldn't hurt the sales if some portion of these MAMA's 1,9 billion viewers decided to go and buy the Trespassing album. Doesn't count in the US, but who cares, as long as he's selling and is an international star, right? I have heard that the vast majority Chinese would not buy CDs as a rule. My son lived in China for a year, and affirmed that this is true from his experience for what that is worth. On the other hand, with such a huge potential audience even an extremely small percentage would be a lot of buyers. |
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Post by maddie509 on Nov 22, 2012 1:53:50 GMT -5
Probably my first visit here.... Looking at the album sales of TP it wouldn't hurt the sales if some portion of these MAMA's 1,9 billion viewers decided to go and buy the Trespassing album. Doesn't count in the US, but who cares, as long as he's selling and is an international star, right?
Ding Ding!! We have a brand new visitor! :Clap: Pardon my over-excitement, the numbers thread's readership is very low, comparatively speaking. ;D
As jean1010 pointed out most of Chinese don't buy CDs, actually more like most of Chinese don't buy music, they get free downloads off the internet. Pretty much everything online is free in China, but some changes are about to happen. Reportedly, China's biggest search engine "baidu" (aka China's Google) is going to undergo an iTunes like transformation in its music section beginning next year, no more freebies!
But, that's not to say no one buys physical CDs at all in China. Both FYE and GNL are selling on Amazon China (there're more detailed info posted after the Voice of China appearance), but TSP has not been officially released in China, yet, so any sales bump would reflect on FYE & GNL. Releasing albums in China is complicated, it needs certain branch of government's approval and all that red tape stuff. But, TSP has been released in pretty much everywhere else in Asia so here is hoping for some really nice bump after MAMA appearance in Hong Kong on Nov 30.
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Post by maddie509 on Nov 22, 2012 2:09:59 GMT -5
Some interesting industry numbers & facts, and projections:
" U.S. digital music sales will rise to $3.4 billion this year, exceeding the $3.38 billion in revenue from CDs and vinyl, Boston-based Strategy Analytics Inc. said yesterday on its website. Globally, digital music will surpass physical purchases in 2015, the company said.
Record companies are licensing artists’ catalogs to streaming services as CD purchases shrink. Sales of digital tracks and albums will rise 6.7 percent this year, while streaming revenue will climb 28 percent, Strategy Analytics said. Together they account for 41 percent of U.S. music sales, compared with 22 percent worldwide.
'Streaming music services such as Spotify and Pandora will be the key growth drivers over the next five years as usage and spending grow rapidly,” Ed Barton, director of digital media at Strategy Analytics, said in a statement. “The industry will be hoping that digital can rebuild the U.S. music market to something approaching its former stature.' ”
source: www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-16/spotify-pandora-spur-u-s-digital-music-sales-past-cds.html
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Post by JazzRocks on Nov 22, 2012 9:06:58 GMT -5
BTW - I still read this thread every day. I don't post anymore (today excepted lol) because nothing is going on in the US and I have no knowledge of how to get information on international numbers.
However - I am available to flail & squee when something good is posted!!!
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