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Post by Albiku on Dec 13, 2012 16:30:36 GMT -5
Surprisingly, identical twins reared apart--even in very different situations--are amazingly alike. I read a book about the subject once that was really interesting. In a study of IQs, it was found that the closest correlation between IQs of two individuals existed between identical twins reared together. The second closest correlation was identical twins reared apart, followed by non-identical siblings reared together, then non-identical siblings reared apart, then non-related people reared together (as in adopted siblings), and non-related people reared apart. So the IQs of identical twins who grew up not knowing each other even existed was more alike than non-twin siblings reared in the same house by the same parents! Even the tendency to giggle appears to have a genetic component! For the life of me I can't remember the title of the book--it was over thirty years ago that I read it--but there's a more recent book called "Born Together--Reared Apart" that covers the same subject and is based on a study in Minnesota. I'm not bringing this up to argue with you; I just find the subject utterly fascinating! Identical twins are always bound to be very similar, because they share the exact same genes. But it's not the same, when they're raised apart than when they're raised together. There are studies that focus on the similarities and studies that focus on the differences. But most of the studies that focus on the similarities were made with twins that were being raised apart but in the same kind of environment (same country, same state, same type of family...). At least those I've read.
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Post by Q3 on Dec 13, 2012 16:31:19 GMT -5
Can not use Christina as a comparison for a reality show judgship helping an artist. Christina is sooooo unlikeable. The Voice probably has actually hurt her! It pretty much confirmed all the rumors that she is a bitch, and not even an interesting bitch like Minaj! But if we eliminate the unlikeable judges on major talent shows, the only judge left is Paula Maybe Jason Mraz will be likable.
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Post by Soaked on Dec 13, 2012 16:39:02 GMT -5
Because you can only sell the same thing so many times before people lose attention and interest. It is why Apple comes out with a new product every 6 months or so, why crocs are now a novelty shoe and why as much as we love Tresspassing it is not going to magically reenter the BB top 10 on the back of Cuckoo or any other song from it being released. If I was at RCA and was to take a lesson from Tresspassing it would be to never let Dr Luke anywhere near a first single off any future Adam Album #kissofdeath ;D ;D But the product is the song, not the album. I can't tell which album any song is from, except for Adam songs. No matter how famous a song is, or how much I like it, I wouldn't be able to tell you which album it's from. And especially in Tp, each song is so different. The radio and casual listeners tend to think that the first single(s) of an album is the best material from that album and represent the vibe of the whole album. If the first fails, their expection for the second will be lower, and that goes on, unless there is some magic. For example, if after PLL, the sales of Cuckoo topped itunes chart for a couple of weeks, I guess, radio would ask the label to give them Cuckoo. It didn't happen. So Adam has to plan for a different album.
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Post by Soaked on Dec 13, 2012 16:43:36 GMT -5
Because you can only sell the same thing so many times before people lose attention and interest. It is why Apple comes out with a new product every 6 months or so, why crocs are now a novelty shoe and why as much as we love Tresspassing it is not going to magically reenter the BB top 10 on the back of Cuckoo or any other song from it being released. If I was at RCA and was to take a lesson from Tresspassing it would be to never let Dr Luke anywhere near a first single off any future Adam Album #kissofdeath ;D ;D AMEN to NO DR LUKE!! Regarding Cuckoo -- it is the hidden pop hit on that album and I think in a world where many things can create a hit, there is always a chance. Don't know why but I think Naked Love could be a pop hit too, along with Cuckoo.
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Post by maddie509 on Dec 13, 2012 16:44:59 GMT -5
Because you can only sell the same thing so many times before people lose attention and interest. It is why Apple comes out with a new product every 6 months or so, why crocs are now a novelty shoe and why as much as we love Tresspassing it is not going to magically reenter the BB top 10 on the back of Cuckoo or any other song from it being released. If I was at RCA and was to take a lesson from Tresspassing it would be to never let Dr Luke anywhere near a first single off any future Adam Album #kissofdeath ;D ;D But the product is the song, not the album. I can't tell which album any song is from, except for Adam songs. No matter how famous a song is, or how much I like it, I wouldn't be able to tell you which album it's from. And especially in Tp, each song is so different. The purpose of releasing singles is to promote and sell the albums ultimately. In today's digital world, there're single sellers not necessarily big album sellers, and they can sell just as much if not more. But from the record company's POV, that's what is for.
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Post by glamtealady on Dec 13, 2012 16:45:09 GMT -5
Maybe being on the Diva's will get people to iTunes to see what music Adam has out.
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Post by katycake on Dec 13, 2012 16:45:50 GMT -5
But the product is the song, not the album. I can't tell which album any song is from, except for Adam songs. No matter how famous a song is, or how much I like it, I wouldn't be able to tell you which album it's from. And especially in Tp, each song is so different. The radio and casual listeners tend to think that the first single(s) of an album is the best material from that album and represent the vibe of the whole album. If the first fails, their expection for the second will be lower, and that goes on, unless there is some magic. For example, if after PLL, the sales of Cuckoo topped itunes chart for a couple of weeks, I guess, radio would ask the label to give them Cuckoo. It didn't happen. So Adam has to plan for a different album. IDK, I think a casual listener hears a song and either likes it or not. They don't really bother themselves as to which album it's from. At least I don't.
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Post by lm2718 on Dec 13, 2012 16:46:49 GMT -5
Genetics are a tricky thing, and difficult to understand. The way we are is not only determined by our genes, the environment plays a big, big part. Take Diabetes, for instance. If Diabetes runs in your family, it's probable that you'll get it when you're older, it has a genetic component. But if you lead a healthy life, maybe you won't get it. Take identical twins. If you separate them from birth and you let them grow up in different environments, then they will end up being REALLY different, even if they have the exact same genes.
So what makes a person gay/lesbian/bisexual/whatever? Well, who the fuck knows? Maybe it's as simple as human diversity. I've studied in a very, VERY religious college. I've heard horrible things about homosexuality from my professors. They've tried to teach me that it's a disease, that it can (and must) be cured. I had a professor who told us he had cured gay people. So I'm very, VERY tired of dangerous theories and wild guesses. In the case of this study, if you have a theory give me scientific facts, not guesses based on Mathemathics. : Glampoon, all my gay friends have had proper father figures growing up. Surprisingly, identical twins reared apart--even in very different situations--are amazingly alike. I read a book about the subject once that was really interesting. In a study of IQs, it was found that the closest correlation between IQs of two individuals existed between identical twins reared together. The second closest correlation was identical twins reared apart, followed by non-identical siblings reared together, then non-identical siblings reared apart, then non-related people reared together (as in adopted siblings), and non-related people reared apart. So the IQs of identical twins who grew up not knowing each other even existed was more alike than non-twin siblings reared in the same house by the same parents! Even the tendency to giggle appears to have a genetic component!
For the life of me I can't remember the title of the book--it was over thirty years ago that I read it--but there's a more recent book called "Born Together--Reared Apart" that covers the same subject and is based on a study in Minnesota.
I'm not bringing this up to argue with you; I just find the subject utterly fascinating!Murly you are right there were several studies about identical twins raised in different environments that ended up very much alike. Here is one: mctfr.psych.umn.edu/research/UM%20research.html
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Post by wal on Dec 13, 2012 16:53:32 GMT -5
Tony Leggett @deartonydaily @adamlambert Thought you might like to see my reading of your palm. www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUmQq_QK-AU … Adam Lambert Palm ReadingDearTonyProductions· Published on Dec 13, 2012
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Post by LindaG23 on Dec 13, 2012 16:53:35 GMT -5
I am going to weigh in on a subject that I have never addressed and I probably should keep my mouth shut now but when has that ever stopped me. It has been a year since BTIKM was released and I think whoever chose that song to introduce Trespassing totally misconstrued why WWFM was a success. Think about it, how many times have you heard the words "What do you want from me" in a movie or on television or from someone close to you. I bet half the people who remember the song have no idea what the remaining lyrics are or what they are about. The question applies to everyone and its universality was its biggest selling point. Don't get me wrong, Adam brought more to that song than anyone else could have and I don't think it would have been anywhere near as big a hit if someone else had sang it. But for some reason, all the powers that be picked up on was that it was emo and angsty and so Adam must introduce Trespassing with an emo and angsty song. Wrong, wrong, wrong. My expectations for Trespassing were tempered the minute that song came out. I will say, I thought the video was brilliant.
Trespassing is a great album and I love it but it needed a better intro with a really catchy, universal appeal. The first single should have been NAKED LOVE. Not my favorite song, I reserve that place in my heart for Shady, but a song that has universal appeal because who hasn't wanted a little naked love every now and then. The gay angle was way too overthought, the public too underestimated. It took about three seconds at the first concert where it was introduced (Kimmel I think) to have everyone in the audience on their feet smiling and singing along. A song like that was needed and then more people would have listened to the album and been impressed with its depth and musicality. Trespassing is an adult album and so many people have no idea what they have missed.
I am ready for new music and ready for Adam to make new music. I still want it to be his music but it is time to move on. Breathe a little new air onto the kindling and please Adam pick some color other than yellow.
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