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Post by wal on Dec 28, 2012 17:29:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2012 17:33:31 GMT -5
I think expecting Adam Lambert fans to sit down and shut up is a losing battle. It's just not ever going to be in the nature of the beast.
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Post by wal on Dec 28, 2012 17:33:51 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2012 17:34:29 GMT -5
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Post by SusieFierce on Dec 28, 2012 17:37:10 GMT -5
I was about to post something similar. I can completely understand the frustration fans have felt by the radio blockade and it makes me as angry as anyone. But bombarding websites and radio stations with these kinds of comments is not going to help Adam at all. Quite the opposite. Many of the comments state that they haven't listened to pop radio for years. WUT? That's really going to get their attention. Not. YES but why don't we listen?? Because there is not much worth listening to. Perez Hilton,someone I'm not over the moon for,but I sure liked what he said to BBC radio, when in England. To paraphrase:He complained about American Radio not giving great singers the opportunity to be heard . He said that they played the same auto tuned ,boring music over and over again. That American radio has fallen to a dismal low. Eek! When Perez is the voice of reason  but I can't disagree. I can see both sides here. While yes, lambasting the station doesn't help. But hurting? At this point, really, what else are they going to do to him? People should still be succinct and classy though, IMO. (We of course are not the only fans who are "passionate." If you've ever seen the tweets/comments from CB, Nicki or Gaga fans when they perceive their artist has been disrespected .... WHOA! ??? And that certainly hasn't "hurt" those artists.) And I do have to agree with the points about not saying you don't listen, but I also totally agree that the REASON people don't listen is because they're given very little choice. I have listened to radio in waves for years. As a commuter, radio is the easiest thing for me to use while driving, but despite flipping through multiple stations multiple times a day, I end up going back to CDs and iPod because radio is pretty much intolerable most of the time. Believe me, I WANT to like it. I like variety and good music and CDs/iPod are difficult to juggle while in traffic. I work in media and certainly get the concept of demographics, reliance on advertisers, circulation, ratings, etc. However, I've never been in a medium that is so completely unresponsive to its audience. It seriously makes no sense to me. My theory: This happened w/Bieber early on as well, I believe. His fans were begging them to play him and other than "Baby, Baby, Baby," he was largely was scorned. Fans lobbied tirelessly and were ignored (despite being the desirable, key demographic). But with this album, radio completely got on board. Why? I think they were largely convinced he wasn't just a fad that would vanish in a few months. Hopefully, this will be the case with Adam. His visibility and following continue to grow and he has proven he can create a strong album as artist, co-writer and executive producer. I have other thoughts, but all we can do is keep supporting and believe next era will be different OR he finds other ways to end around their blockade. |
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Post by Q3 on Dec 28, 2012 17:38:48 GMT -5
Sorry to disagree with you here. I have called my radio stations many times over & all I get is we'll try to squeeze Adam Lambert in,which they never do. I have listened to countless advertisements and lousy songs waiting for the stations to squeeze Adam in.If they think lying to the public is going to get me to buy their advertiser's products,they have another thing coming.. I think the more noise we make the better,I'm certainly not worried if I piss them off,how could they be any worse to Adam. He has done interview after interview with radio stations across America,The DJs smile in his face and of course don't have permission from the suits to play him.BS and hypocrisy. I think we should complain more not less.Just sayin Adam needs his Glamberts to address the issues .. In this case,the issue is,why does an album that Has made it to #1 on BB get rejected by a large part of radio.. WHY???Why does a Grammy nominee for WWFM get no attention. IMO, Adam is being blacklisted by the industry. How do you explain Rolling Stone putting Taylor Swift's album in the top 50 of the year with only a 3 1/2 star rating, but Adam's gets 4 stars and is no where on the list? Adam has not been and is not being blacklisted by "the industry". And Rolling Stone does not reflect the opinion of anyone except their editors. Many RS 4 star albums did not make the 50 list -- for example: Bruno Mars "Unorthodox Jukebox", Bikini Kill "Bikini Kill: 20th Anniversary Reissue", Big Boi "Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors". and about 30 other albums. ** I also disagree about the comments on the Ryan Seacrest webpage -- probably won't matter at all. Adam has fans of all ages and some work for radio stations. ETA: This was not very clear. To clarify --- radio stations are not programmed based upon a handful of comments on a yearend online article. So these comments will not matter -- one way or the other. ** Trespassing album did not produce big hit songs in the US or Canada or the UK or any other country -- even though Adam had hits from FYE including a Top 10 hit in the US. I have no idea why these singles missed but there is no way I believe Adam was OK in 2010 but not OK in 2012. Makes no sense and there is just no evidence he's been blacklisted. |
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Post by wal on Dec 28, 2012 17:49:24 GMT -5
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Post by SusieFierce on Dec 28, 2012 17:59:27 GMT -5
Q3: "Trespassing album did not produce big hit songs in the US or Canada or the UK or any other country." Not exactly accurate ... @trespassingal: After more than 14 weeks, @adamlambert 's Trespassing is still #1 on Unistar Top-20! unistar.by/#participate/top20/ (tweeted three hours ago) Singles did very well in South Africa, Finland and now Trespassing is doing well in China – pretty much, where they were heard, they did well. So that brings us back to radio ... |
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Post by nonotme on Dec 28, 2012 18:02:55 GMT -5
On the comments front, I wish written comments on articles and radio station websites were shorter and less lecture-y because lecturing is rarely effective in any setting. But otherwise, what is, is. Not worrying about it. I liked what Sagittarius said about Adam at the Warfield. That he was "so Adam and not performer." I think that is true for most musicians as they perform more and more - they become more themselves on stage. Not that they weren't being themselves before, just that it takes practice to keep moving toward the right balance and doing it in a manner that is spontaneous. Heck, that's true of people in all kinds of situations... Anyway, I loved the Warfield show, too. The videos simply do not capture how much the spikes on the jacket sparkle in the spotlights, though. Some gif maker might like 1:56 - 2:00 in this video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o-cTgBgVU4&feature=player_embeddedAlso vote for NNN and the OZ Is this Love performances in the favorite list. peace&love |
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Post by thelambertluvva on Dec 28, 2012 18:11:15 GMT -5
IMO, Adam is being blacklisted by the industry. How do you explain Rolling Stone putting Taylor Swift's album in the top 50 of the year with only a 3 1/2 star rating, but Adam's gets 4 stars and is no where on the list? Adam has not been and is not being blacklisted by "the industry". And Rolling Stone does not reflect the opinion of anyone except their editors. Many RS 4 star albums did not make the 50 list -- for example: Bruno Mars "Unorthodox Jukebox", Bikini Kill "Bikini Kill: 20th Anniversary Reissue", Big Boi "Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors". and about 30 other albums. ** I also disagree about the comments on the Ryan Seacrest webpage -- probably won't matter at all. Adam has fans of all ages and some work for radio stations. ETA: This was not very clear. To clarify --- radio stations are not programmed based upon a handful of comments on a yearend online article. So these comments will not matter -- one way or the other. ** Trespassing album did not produce big hit songs in the US or Canada or the UK or any other country -- even though Adam had hits from FYE including a Top 10 hit in the US. I have no idea why these singles missed but there is no way I believe Adam was OK in 2010 but not OK in 2012. Makes no sense and there is just no evidence he's been blacklisted. I still believe he didn't get hits because they won't play him on the radio. If it takes 10 million AI to affect sales, there weren't enough radio stations playing him to even get anywhere near close to that. There are tons of mediocre songs getting radio play that are no better than Adam's songs. And from new artists from the UK from reality shows. Remember when WWFM became a hit? That's because Z100 played the song. Z100 also played IIHY, which became a moderate hit. Z100 didn't play any songs off of Trespassing. When just a couple of radio stations with low AI play his songs, there is no way they are going to become hits. Anyway, just my opinion. Some of the big hits are some of the worse songs I've ever heard and are certainly not better quality than Adam's songs. |
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