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Post by bullsfan on Jul 19, 2013 8:19:59 GMT -5
Success in the music business is so much easier for the WGWG types. Especially those that get a big label push and have the good fortune to have two really catchy first singles (I'm not a fan of P2's music but even I think both his songs are really good). Other WGWG from Idol such as Cook & KA have not had the label push or the singles' quality of P2 imo. I'm out of the loop of pop music so I'm asking - is he the draw or the songs? I never really hear or read anything about him as a performer. Adam is controversial. He would be polarizing even if he weren't gay. It's an uphill battle for him with radio - and that's putting it mildly. Once he climbs that hill I'm sure he will be around for a long time. Longevity vs Flash in the Pan. And bring on the critiques of what I said - Just my opinion because I know nothing. I really think it is the songs. When Home came on the radio, a friend with me insisted it was Mumford and Sons. I think a lot of people don't actually know who P2 is, but like the Mumford and Sons sound. Well, they are learning who he is. And, organically, and in a perfect world, that's how it should happen. The songs should come first. For me, generally, I will hear a song on the radio first. And if I hear it enough, I will look up the artist. I have always said that one of Adam's "obstacles" is that people are more aware of the personality. The personality and fame came first, and he is still playing catch-up musically. I think it is harder to work in that direction. But, I am more optimistic for Adam than I ever have been. He needed to get away from RCA and find a place where people "get" him and will put it all on the line to support him. Phillip had the great fortune of having an awesome label and having perfect timing. His songs hit just as radio (including CHR)was embracing the "Mumford sound." |
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Post by butterknife on Jul 19, 2013 8:24:13 GMT -5
I will also stream the Cal Mid State Fair Concert tonight
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* Estimated to start @7:30pm. Actual time may vary. Will notify on twitter @butterknife0204.
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Post by belle on Jul 19, 2013 8:31:20 GMT -5
IG videos won't play in my system combo anymore for some reason. (There might be a plug-in needed to IE, pls tell is you know the name.) Many other people have posted about their difficulties in watching these before as well. May I suggest that IG videos would be posted with their mp4 URL (the same way as IG pics nowadays, digging the url from the source code). I believe that works for most of us. As an example, the above mentioned 'Good night' video would look like this distilleryvesper3-7.ak.instagram.com/05a236eef04a11e2934e22000aa800af_101.mp4 ETA Or maybe both addresses as comments etc are on the instagram page - or is it too tedious? Are there people that cannot watch the link in this post? |
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Post by JazzRocks on Jul 19, 2013 8:35:29 GMT -5
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Post by ladyoz on Jul 19, 2013 8:41:09 GMT -5
I will also stream the Cal Mid State Fair Concert tonight
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* Estimated to start @7:30pm. Actual time may vary. Will notify on twitter @butterknife0204.
butterknife Just wanted to say a huge  in advance, for so kindly sharing your concert experience with us .... Australia fans really do love you and all the live tweeters for being so generous .... it'll be Saturday avro here when he's on and I am so grateful for any streams/tweets and of course videos (later) that will be offered.
Hope you have the time of your life ... keep cool and rock on !! ![]()
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Post by coo.coo.ca.choo on Jul 19, 2013 8:42:07 GMT -5
The choice to headline or to tour with another artist is effected by a lot of factors include the artist's maturity as a performer, genre, and venue availability. There is a difference between touring as an opening act or touting as a featured act or co-touring. "John Mayer with Phillip Phillips" looks like a featured artist to me. Not an opening act. Finally, a few artists -- Adam is one -- do not have natural touring partners. Daugherty goes went with Nickelback. Adam goes with ???? Madonna - that way they can share guitar players. HA! (major tongue in major cheek along with rolling eyes) |
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Post by 4Ms on Jul 19, 2013 8:56:05 GMT -5
Trespassing (Official Lyric Video) is Adam's most recent official video and could use some help to build the view count. (Playlist is 1 hour long.) 2013-05-16 Adam Lambert TP & FYE VEVOs + Favswww.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8wdt9PU1zxWM21jmO_SagHxDqk1_GBKo01. Adam Lambert - Trespassing (Official Lyric Video) - AdamLambertVEVO ( 2,225,008 2,232,217 views) 02. Adam Lambert - Never Close Our Eyes - AdamLambertVEVO ( 15,830,266 15,881,559 views) 03. Adam Lambert - Better Than I Know Myself - AdamLambertVEVO ( 13,127,002 13,156,123 views) 04. Adam Lambert - Runnin by Shedy Hmani ( 1,060,563 1,063,414 views) 05. Adam Lambert - If I Had You - AdamLambertVEVO ( 37,850,132 37,903,853 views) 06. Adam Lambert - Whataya Want From Me - AdamLambertVEVO ( 37,096,799 37,158,228 views) 07. Adam Lambert - For Your Entertainment - AdamLambertVEVO ( 18,507,319 18,536,831 views) 08. Adam Lambert - Time For Miracles - AdamLambertVEVO ( 1,713,807 1,715,519 views) 09. Adam Lambert - Can't Let you go (Unofficial Music Video) by memyOrSHE csatornája ( 1,007,915 1,008,471 views) 10. Adam Lambert - Fever (Glam Nation Live) by AdamLambertVEVO ( 1,556,198 1,557,775 views) 11. Adam Lambert - Sleepwalker (Glam Nation Live) by AdamLambertVEVO ( 1,671,758 1,673,610 views) 12. Adam Lambert - Whataya Want From Me (Glam Nation Live) by AdamLambertVEVO ( 1,119,287 1,119,939 views) 13. Adam Lambert - Strut (Glam Nation Live) by AdamLambertVEVO ( 135,144 135,325 views) 14. Adam Lambert - Music Again (Glam Nation Live) by AdamLambertVEVO ( 829,623 830,049 views) 15. Adam Lambert - Aftermath (Audio) by AdamLambertVEVO ( 666,800 667,270 views) 16. Adam Lambert Star Spangled Banner 6-23-13 Broadway Bares 2013 midnight show Video by Sam Berneroby toni7babe ( 66,065 66,508 views) 2013-07-19 Trespassing 2,232,217 views 06:30 AM PDT 2013-07-19 Trespassing 2,231,873 views 02:00 AM PDT 2013-07-18 Trespassing 2,228,607 views 12:00 AM PDT 2013-07-17 Trespassing 2,225,008 views 12:00 AM PDT 40 x Trespassing 2012-10-04 Adam Lambert - Trespassing (Official Lyric Video)www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8wdt9PU1zxUFhjlhL1ONTWcvuKEf3VOY
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Post by Q3 on Jul 19, 2013 9:01:10 GMT -5
Success in the music business is so much easier for the WGWG types. Especially those that get a big label push and have the good fortune to have two really catchy first singles (I'm not a fan of P2's music but even I think both his songs are really good). Other WGWG from Idol such as Cook & KA have not had the label push or the singles' quality of P2 imo. I'm out of the loop of pop music so I'm asking - is he the draw or the songs? I never really hear or read anything about him as a performer. Adam is controversial. He would be polarizing even if he weren't gay. It's an uphill battle for him with radio - and that's putting it mildly. Once he climbs that hill I'm sure he will be around for a long time. Longevity vs Flash in the Pan. And bring on the critiques of what I said - Just my opinion because I know nothing. If Adam and P2 had not both been on Idol, they would never even be put in the same sentence. They really have nothing in common beyond that. ** JMHO P2 is very popular personally -- so I would say he is the draw. It is very difficult to make it as an alt. rock artist and he has been doing very well so far. He was a very popular Idol contestant, got some good songs (Home) and then wrote some good material. P2 wrote or co-wrote 9 of 12 tracks on his album, plus 2 of 5 bonus tracks. The two singles were written by other people. He has very little to do with Adam except they both were on Idol. ** I do not think Adam is "that" polarizing -- once you leave the Idol bubble. Look at the response to the Glee announcement. The Trespassing era radio issues have so many reasons that it is hard to assess "blame". Weak material (BTIKM, NCOE), a non-traditional promo plan (RCA cutting promo budgets and trying to get out of radio promo), a multi-genre album, no "home" radio format, etc. At the end of the day, PDs play what is popular with their audience. If BTIKM and NCOE missed only in the US, they I might agree with the "RCA did not put in enough promo $$" theory as the root cause, but Adam is popular in many countries, and these songs pretty much missed everywhere. BTIKM was a poor choice (y'all know I hated this choice for Adam) -- it does not suit Adam's voice, message, style, nothing. NCOE is a better song but what does it have to do with Adam? ** All water under the bridge and Adam is headed on his own path now. |
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Post by smokeyvera on Jul 19, 2013 9:07:00 GMT -5
Butternknife. Thank you so much. This will be the first time in 7 weeks for me to partake in his lusciousness. Real Life has kicked me in the butt, and now I can sit back for 3 weeks until school starts on August 8 (south starts early).
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Post by Q3 on Jul 19, 2013 9:10:10 GMT -5
The choice to headline or to tour with another artist is effected by a lot of factors include the artist's maturity as a performer, genre, and venue availability. There is a difference between touring as an opening act or touting as a featured act or co-touring. "John Mayer with Phillip Phillips" looks like a featured artist to me. Not an opening act. Finally, a few artists -- Adam is one -- do not have natural touring partners. Daugherty goes went with Nickelback. Adam goes with ???? Madonna - that way they can share guitar players. HA! (major tongue in major cheek along with rolling eyes) Actually, might work except.... her schedule did not align with Adam's and she often doesn't have an opening act. Lady Gaga might be a fit on paper but not in this lifetime is she touring with someone from Idol. |
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