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Post by Q3 on Apr 30, 2014 12:28:18 GMT -5
Yes, Adam has a very fluid sense of time. "Soon" could be next week, a month from now, or, some time this year. Since we are talking about rehearsing music only (well, yes, it is incredible and complex music) and not choreography and spoken lines like in the theater, I would not expect them to do more than two to three weeks of rehearsal. Brian and Roger know these songs like they know their own names. It is mostly brush up for them, and some tweaking of arrangements that Adam initiates. For Adam, the learning curve is steeper, but he can start by listening to recordings and studying lyrics. The rehearsals with the band are more for coordination - tempo, entrance points, instrumental breaks, backing harmonies. Full, 2 hr plus musicals are mounted in three weeks routinely. I cannot see them taking longer. IMO. Sorry to disagree with you, Cassie but I worked in theater for many years and Broadway and off Broadway have a minimum rehearsal period of 4 weeks and all Broadway shows have an additional 2 weeks of previews before the actual opening. This is especially important for musicals, where rehearsals are held simultaneously for the music, the choreography, and any dialogue only scenes. Now with concerts it requires at least 4 or 5 days for tech rehearsals only. So I would be very surprised, with such high stakes, if Queen and Adam didn't have a similar rehearsal process. I can't speak to the Broadway shows, but I do know a lot about big concerts, and a lot about Queen concerts. Queen is doing a big production with a major set installation and effects which was in planning long before they announced the tour. Brian and Roger have said this will be a big production like the old Queen concerts -- that is a very different thing then the low production shows they did in Russia and Ukraine, or the "home-town" show they did at the Hammersmith or the mini-concert they did at iHRMF Vegas. Even for those shows, they did 2 weeks of rehearsals with Adam and the band. >> Some photos from 2012 rehearsals -- not too elaborate -- brianmay.com/brian/brianssb/brianssbjun12a.htmlHere is a video of the rehearsal for the last "real" Queen tour -- the Magic Tour 1986 -- there is a part 2 for this rehearsal: youtu.be/0RoW5u6iHwIThese shows are choreographed, have complex lighting cues, they are theater IMHO. In 2014, the bar has been raised -- in 1986, shows were staged but the productions were much smaller. A current arena tour show is an elaborate production. Taylor Swifts has 38 semi-trucks for her tour. Madonna, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Bruno, etc. have huge productions. I am not expecting Queen to have 20 dancers or to have a choir, but I am expecting elaborate electronic effects, video, lots of pryo and mondo amped sound effects. Brian and Roger (all of Queen in the past), their production team, LiveNation, etc. started to work on the live show concept months before rehearsals. The setlist, the sequence, segueways, etc. That is why Queen was and is such a great live act -- they did a show even in the 70's. Sure they will do "Bohemian Rhaposody" but how will they do it? How will they integrate the live and recorded performances? How will they use video? Where will the video be projected? What video? Specifically on the rehearsals -- the band has one member who I believe knows every song and can play it in his sleep -- Spike Edney. (And I am including Roger and Brian.) And 3 of the 6 people on stage have limited experience playing this music. The band: Brian May and Roger - original members Spike Edney – keyboards, piano, rhythm guitar, backing vocals (1984–present) Rufus Tiger Taylor - percussion, drums, backing vocals (2011–present - 8 performances) Neil Fairclough - bass guitar, backing vocals (2011–present - 8 performances) Adam Lambert - Lead and backing vocals (2011-present - 8 performances) I expect that they will start rehearsals without Adam with just the band -- then rehearse for a couple weeks with Adam. There will also be production run throughs.
Cassie: "Brian and Roger know these songs like they know their own names."No, they actually don't and you can see this in the errors in the 2012 concert performances. Brian even made errors in Vegas. Cassie: "It is mostly brush up for them, and some tweaking of arrangements that Adam initiates."
Brian and Roger did more than tweak the arrangements of songs for past post-Freddie concerts. And they modified arrangements for songs that did not involve Adam. They even changed arrangements for Las Vegas. I think this is as much Brian, Roger and Spike as it is from Adam. Talon may have more insight on this than me. Cassie: "The rehearsals with the band are more for coordination - tempo, entrance points, instrumental breaks, backing harmonies."
Unless something has changed, the Queen rehearsals are for so much more. If they just replay the songs and medleys and solos from 2012, I will be shocked and disappointed. I am positive I will not be disappointed. |
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Post by Q3 on Apr 30, 2014 12:32:32 GMT -5
I know nothing about big musicals but here is what Playbill.com says... A typical Broadway show rehearses six days a week for eight hours a day — from around 10 AM-6 PM. The actors work for seven of those hours, and the rest is breaks. Big musicals rehearse in the studio for four to six weeks, while plays rehearse for less — David Mamet's new Broadway play November, for instance, rehearsed for a little over three weeks. The company then moves to the theatre for tech rehearsal — which can last one-and-a-half to two weeks for a big musical — where the hours get longer. (See the Sept. 21 column for more information about rehearsal rules.)Link: www.playbill.com/features/article/113852-ASK-PLAYBILLCOM-Rehearsal-Schedule** My expectation is the schedule looks something like this... That gives Adam 2 or 2-1/2 weeks before he heads off to London. Rehearsals in London: 5/16-19/14 - 6/6/14 Production checks Chicago, run through, sound checks: 6/17-18/14 Concert #1: 6/19/14 |
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Post by cassie on Apr 30, 2014 12:47:11 GMT -5
Obviously my experience with rehearsal times is not the norm. Or, more probably, my recall of those days is less than accurate. Plus, I was thinking of MUSIC rehearsals, DUH! Not the fact that this is going to be a HUGE, complex production with many bells, whistles, lights, sirens, pyro, videos, visuals, surround sound, etc. I stand corrected and thank everyone for pointing out factors I had not considered. I can definitely see Queen, Adam, and company starting serious work as soon as this or next week. In-person rehearsals will probably be in London, right? Hopefully we will be clued in when Adam travels. Between chatty Adam, Brian and Roger, do you think someone will leak info/pics?
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Post by Q3 on Apr 30, 2014 12:53:30 GMT -5
Obviously my experience with rehearsal times is not the norm. Or, more probably, my recall of those days is less than accurate. Plus, I was thinking of MUSIC rehearsals, DUH! Not the fact that this is going to be a HUGE, complex production with many bells, whistles, lights, sirens, pyro, videos, visuals, surround sound, etc. I stand corrected and thank everyone for pointing out factors I had not considered. I can definitely see Queen, Adam, and company starting serious work as soon as this or next week. In-person rehearsals will probably be in London, right? Hopefully we will be clued in when Adam travels. Between chatty Adam, Brian and Roger, do you think someone will leak info/pics? I think we can rely on chatty Brian to clue us in.  If not him, then Adam! And this is really new for Brian and Roger -- their first big show since 1986. Q+PR was not the same scale. ** I have been thinking about GNT and how even though that was on a small scale, how well it was staged and choreographed. Along with all the other wins in the tour for Adam, getting to be the "star" of a big arena production with a huge set, must be a thrill. |
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Post by mszue on Apr 30, 2014 12:58:20 GMT -5
I wonder how much time Adam has or will take to learn the ropes of the breadth of the technical issues and decisions involved in a large tour production. If he wished, he could likely eschew some of the time involved in making all these decisions...that would certainly minimize the time he needed to be present. But, if he can afford the time and they are open to it...this could be a huge learning experience for him that would give him a huge leg up when the time comes for him to prepare his own first really big tour. He has spoken about how he is an experiential learner...well here is his chance....he is a very lucky man to have this available.....yeah!!
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Post by lm2718 on Apr 30, 2014 13:03:22 GMT -5
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Post by talon on Apr 30, 2014 13:07:46 GMT -5
And this is really new for Brian and Roger -- their first big show since 1986. Q+PR was not the same scale. I'm not certain I agree with that statement. Their 2005 European tour was fairly comparable in terms of arena size so therefore stage I believe. Brian and Roger talk big...but I wouldn't be getting too hyped up out of the realm of possibilities....Just a cautionary thought or two. I may be wrong...but Brian and Roger always talk about the bigness of a Queen production...and they have always lumped QPR in with those statements. NOW as different to the 2012 Hammersmith shows...yes they will be bigger than that. But the QPR stops are similar in function. |
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Post by Q3 on Apr 30, 2014 13:11:28 GMT -5
Or Shady or Kickin In or Pop That Lock or ....... (as you said more) There might be a "More of the Very Best" at some future point. I would count on another compilation if this CD sells a lot or if/when A3 is a monster hit! I found a few Playlists that sold well but none have rocked the charts. Playlist: The Very Best of Dixie Chicks (2010 BB 200 #115) Playlist: The Very Best of Britney Spears ( BB 200 #111) Right now it is selling OK and looks like it could end up on the BB 200 -- Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #91 in Music (See Top 100 in Music). But it is early. And we can only see Amazon which is a small percentage of the US album market. And, yes, I would love this to sell well because it would be good for Adam and that is all I care about. |
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Post by nica575 on Apr 30, 2014 13:13:04 GMT -5
I wonder how much time Adam has or will take to learn the ropes of the breadth of the technical issues and decisions involved in a large tour production. If he wished, he could likely eschew some of the time involved in making all these decisions...that would certainly minimize the time he needed to be present. But, if he can afford the time and they are open to it...this could be a huge learning experience for him that would give him a huge leg up when the time comes for him to prepare his own first really big tour. He has spoken about how he is an experiential learner...well here is his chance....he is a very lucky man to have this available.....yeah!! so true! This is a totally unique outstanding chance to get an intimate insight into all things "HUGE TOUR". IMO Adam is going to learn as much as he can given his time limitations. Talking about tours, would it be too ambitious on my part to hope for a Summer 2015 Adam A3 Tour?  |
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