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Post by Q3 on May 15, 2014 11:48:15 GMT -5
Perfectly perfect perfectness. I could see him doing well in Rock of Ages. And I really do not mean that as an insult, just that I think he is a pretty good actor and would be a better stage act than a recording artist. |
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Post by bamafan on May 15, 2014 11:49:13 GMT -5
Well, to cleanse our palette.......
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Post by Q3 on May 15, 2014 12:04:37 GMT -5
Thanks bamafan! I need that!
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Post by FanOfTheMan on May 15, 2014 12:06:00 GMT -5
Caleb is nowhere in Adam's league, but he is not as off-key or obnoxious as James Durbin was. Cannot get worked up about him, even though I very much appreciate that his 'retard' comment led to a wider discussion and to more awareness of an issue that requires overall attention. I don't even care whether Caleb gets it, the important part is that many learn the lessons along with the public figure who happens to step into it. I have had that discussion on various occasion with folks. The lgbt community is the second most bullied, mis-understood, feared and avoided by the public, treated with shame and sometimes even mis-treated by their own family, - group of people in our society.
Often, when I say this, I immediately get the question back: 'What is the number 1 group?"
Answer: The disabled, especially the mentally disabled.
And again, awareness as well as overcoming ignorance and prejudice are what is needed.
I don't care about Caleb, but I do care about that cause. Caleb has probably learned a PC lesson, and will not say that word anymore, but I doubt he is sensitive enough to have learned the bigger lesson of how much more respect and understanding the mentally disabled community needs. He comes across as a bit too full of himself to get that bigger picture. But aside from this, looking at it from a singing and artistry perspective, I have to say that Alex and Caleb are in my book ahead of Jena. Jena is shouty in her voice and was terrible yesterday. Alex is artistically interesting and I will pay attention to anything he puts out, and if I like it, fine. Don't want to see him live though. Caleb is just a good singer, but he can give a show at the local fair or whatever. He will eat humble pie, when he finds out that his ability to get a record contract is about as limited as it was for Durbin. Adam is a class act and will perform great with anyone. He wins by not outsinging anyone. He is better, even just singing harmonies, we saw it last year. Not worried. And Angie was good, but Adam still shines, and the idol audience loves him. It's all good. Another group that rates right up there, maybe even #1 is the mentally ill. The mentally ill are bullied, misunderstood, feared and avoided by the public. That is so heartbreaking for them and their families. Try having a family member who is mentally handicapped AND mentally ill as well - double whammy. People can be so cruel, and whether intentional or out of ignorance, the hurt is the same. |
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Post by adamrocks on May 15, 2014 12:08:10 GMT -5
No worries, I know you were not directing that at me. It was more of a inadvertent cosmos intervention, because I do try hard to remember that quote, AND it was from Terrance, a fellow Libra who I adore (and have a few older woman lustful feelings for, what a body that boy has! Probably TMI, sorry.) Life is a learning curve, and that kindness thing is something I have worked on for years. Especially remembering that we rarely know what has brought someone to any certain point.Your words are so true. When I was a young girl about 7 years old I use go play with the kids in my neighborhood in a vacant lot area behind our houses that had a somewhat hilly and tree lined terrain. One day there was a raggedly looking homeless man sitting underneath one of the trees drinking from a paper bag covered bottle of liquor. Some of the kids made fun of him but in my mind I just thought that this man had once been a baby, had a family, and was a kid just like us. What coud have happened in his life to make him come to this and be so lost and alone now? I have never forgotten that man's image and I think it has helped me try to understand why some people act as they do. But I am not always able to be tolerable of some people's behavior. Sorry...I didn't mean to babble on like that!lol |
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Post by murly on May 15, 2014 12:17:36 GMT -5
No worries, I know you were not directing that at me. It was more of a inadvertent cosmos intervention, because I do try hard to remember that quote, AND it was from Terrance, a fellow Libra who I adore (and have a few older woman lustful feelings for, what a body that boy has! Probably TMI, sorry.) Life is a learning curve, and that kindness thing is something I have worked on for years. Especially remembering that we rarely know what has brought someone to any certain point.Your words are so true. When I was a young girl about 7 years old I use go play with the kids in my neighborhood in a vacant lot area behind our houses that had a somewhat hilly and tree lined terrain. One day there was a raggedly looking homeless man sitting underneath one of the trees drinking from a paper bag covered bottle of liquor. Some of the kids made fun of him but in my mind I just thought that this man had once been a baby, had a family, and was a kid just like us. What coud have happened in his life to make him come to this and be so lost and alone now? I have never forgotten that man's image and I think it has helped me try to understand why some people act as they do. But I am not always able to be tolerable of some people's behavior. Sorry...I didn't mean to babble on like that!lol Your memory reminds me of this song called "Willard" by the late great singer-songwriter John Stewart. Willard, he's a loner Living by the railway Living by the tracks beside his home Willard, he's a loner If you're going his way Say hello, he ain't got no one to call his own Soldiers of glass Standing by the trash Willard's colored bottles in a line Soldiers of glass It's funny you should ask But they're the only friends he has to pass the time They're the only friends he has to pass the time And his Mamma knows that he was once a child Mamma, she was the first one to hear his cry And my Mamma knows that I was once a child Could it be we're all just Willard in disguise? Could it be we're all just Willard in disguise? I hear they're tearing down All the buildings in his town The house where Willard Jefferson has stayed But they can't tear him down No he will always be around 'Cause he's as hard as all that old black river clay Yet his Mamma knows that he was once a child Mamma, she was the first one to hear his cry And my Mamma knows that I was once a child Could it be we're all just Willard in disguise? Could it be we're all just Willard in disguise? Willard, he's a loner Living by the railway Living by the tracks beside his home Willard, he's a loner If you're going his way Say hello, he ain't got no one to call his own |
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Post by adamrocks on May 15, 2014 12:28:02 GMT -5
Murly, I have never heard of the song but the words are kind of 'gut wrenching' aren't they? It does remind me of this man I spoke of in my post. Thank you for posting it.
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Post by red panda on May 15, 2014 12:40:42 GMT -5
If that is babbling we need a lot more babbling in our world. Your parents must have done something right, what a wonderful perspective for a seven year old.
I fell in love with the gramma in this video at ~1:04 (you can start at about 0:56) because those little girls are so fortunate to be shown what kindness is by loving example.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 12:41:16 GMT -5
I didn't realize that Idol was all about who is the boy or girl next door, my bad. I find it more interesting to watch Caleb bash mic stands than watch Alex sing a song looking like he has to go pee desperately... I have no vested interest in any of them but it would not aggravate me to see Adam sing with Caleb. I like watching Adam sing... period Me too! And I have been saying for weeks, QAL on the Finale! I am not changing that prediction until the Finale is over!  (Or Adam or Shoshanna specifically say "NO!" |
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Post by lulu1265 on May 15, 2014 12:44:14 GMT -5
Not to be mean, (which of course means I AM going to be mean), but I have really negative feelings about Caleb. I think someone earlier called him boorish, to that I would add arrogant. And now here is the mean part. If Caleb does get the privilege of singing with Queen and Adam Lambert, my secret wish would be for Adam, who to my mind is the best singing partner, the most gracious duet singer, who never over sings his partner, would just for one time blow this 80's cover dude out of the water. SANG, Adam. Just this once show him how it is done by a trained, intelligent, audience including star. I think Caleb needs some humbling, and if he doesn't do it himself, the industry will do it when he gets out of the Idol bubble. Also, Caleb, please learn how to take care of your voice. If you want to be a singer, that should be one of the basic tenets. Isn't that Singing 101? Especially since you seem to have experience fronting bands and doing gigs. I know, I know, as the judges painstakingly and incessantly pointed out, you were sick. And apparently hemorrhaging. But I remember Adam (in an AI package, actually) saying that his experience worked for him because it taught him to "sing through a cold." So I know it can be done. Adam on AI out sang Caleb in every way, in every genre, with every note, and still maintained his voice. If you really want to be a singer, you better value your instrument enough to do what needs to be done to take care of it. Even on a home town visit. This is such a great shot at your dream, why take even the slightest chance with your voice? Whew, lotta venom for so early, huh? Caleb to me is just the antithesis of all that I admire in Adam, including versatility, devotion to the craft of singing, range, like ability and attitude. Also just plain savviness. IMO, it is just plain stupid to call anyone one, any group, retards. There is no backpedaling on that, no explaining. And the fact that he did not just come out with a direct apology acknowledging that says everything, IMO. I have to agree with you. It would have gone a long way if Caleb had issued a straightforward apology, but he didn't. I also get the arrogant vibe from him, he seems to be the total opposite of what Adam was when he was on AI. Actually, it was Adam's humble attitude that appealed to me as much as his voice and my respect has only grown since then. |
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