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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 17:48:32 GMT -5
Yes we were! The Forum was my favorite show! He was so happy to be performing at home and the audience gave so much love! Will always remember how thrilled Brian was to be there too & his face as he left the stage at the end. And I was there too! Just loved every second. Only trouble is - I can't remember this bit. In fact, when I look back at videos of the shows I've been at, I always end up thinking, ' I didn't see this' or ' I didn't hear that'... ...even though I am absolutely glued to it all. Does anyone else have that problem? Please don't say it's just me.. It's not just you. It's called a "Glam Coma!" Very common! Then we had so much fun at The Standard having our midnight snack!
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Post by geezlouise on Oct 9, 2014 17:50:00 GMT -5
Hoopla1 @hooplapf Question: Whose talk show was Adam on when audience fan said she could "change" him? Can't remember, driving me nuts!
I don't have a twitter account, but in case she is lurking......the answer to this is Justin Lee Collins.
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Post by Q3 on Oct 9, 2014 17:50:47 GMT -5
Since it is so quiet, I would like to make a suggestion on some things that may help Adam when new music comes out. 1. Join or renew your membership in your local radio stations and participate on their sites. 2. Don't forget to participate in Rate the music. 3. Call into your radio station now and then, and make some requests. It can't hurt!!! And if you post a whole lot it can't hurt!! That AVI is gorgeous!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 17:52:45 GMT -5
SophieB......it's just YOU! lol j/k. Yes, often you're just overwhelmed and can't retain it all. It's sensory overload. Thank goodness for videos to relive it over and over. The Forum was my favorite concert I attended. Like mys*&@^#r said he seemed happy to be playing at home. Plus, this was the only show where I was front and center. The closer you physically are to him, the more memorable the experience IMO even if every little thing audio wise or production wise isn't perfect. The audio is important, but equally important to me are the Adam visuals and him having fun. Being at the end of the thrust in Chicago was also a huge thrill because we didn't know what was coming when they placed "the couch" right in front of us. I thought the audio at the Forum was excellent! I have that full concert video DLed on my phone & it is fabulous! Have been to the Forum several times & was unimpressed. This was the first show since the remodel for me, and IMO, they did everything right! Even their staff was fabulous & fun!
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Post by cassie on Oct 9, 2014 17:53:17 GMT -5
Well, okay then. The vocal range debates again. What notes does one give a singer credit for? If you are talking to SINGERS, to those who study voice classically, a singer's range covers the notes they can accurately and reliably sing in performance. The note must be able to be sustained and sung with control. The singer should be able to articulate a syllable beyond "ah" on that note: be able to sing actual words. The note should be produced with full voice or head voice (modal registers) and not with falsetto, whistle register or vocal fry. The sound should be able to carry and be clearly heard over the instrumental accompaniment. This is a singer's "usable range." The chart above is NOT created using such criteria. It gives credit for both falsetto and whistle techniques as well as vocal fry (very low gravelly, burp sounds), extending the range significantly. It credits any sound produced while singing or talking. To me, that is deceptive. I have no idea how high or low Adam can produce some kind of barely audible sound. Certainly, since he rarely performs with falsetto, we cannot predict how that extends his upper limits, but it probably does significantly. However, his range in the MODAL register of chest, mixed and head voice THAT WE HAVE HEARD RECORDED, is A2 in "Runnin" to Bb5 in a number of songs. I think there was one B5 also noted, but I cannot remember which song that was in. In the harmonies of "Runnin" there is also an E2, but no one can confidently say that is Adam singing naturally, and not altered in the studio, so I don't count that. A2-Bb5 is a remarkable range. It becomes more remarkable when you hear the power, purity, clarity and control with which he can sing those notes. Adam's tone, flexibility, control and consistency are, for me, much more impressive than just the range of actual notes. I believe that note only surfaced when we got a stripped version of "Aftermath" where some of the overpowering instruments were removed. In the then audible vocals he hit that B5. But that would also be in the studio,and a total one-off. Good memory. If you eliminate the studio sessions and look at just what Adam sings in live performance, I think you have the best representation of "usable range." In many shows, Adam sings down to a C#3 or a C3 and up to an F#5 or G5. Consistently, in every show of any length, he sings E3-E5, so I would say that is the range he is most comfortable and confident in and can sing without any strain on his voice.
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Post by csquared on Oct 9, 2014 17:59:52 GMT -5
I believe that note only surfaced when we got a stripped version of "Aftermath" where some of the overpowering instruments were removed. In the then audible vocals he hit that B5. But that would also be in the studio,and a total one-off. Good memory. If you eliminate the studio sessions and look at just what Adam sings in live performance, I think you have the best representation of "usable range." In many shows, Adam sings down to a C#3 or a C3 and up to an F#5 or G5. Consistently, in every show of any length, he sings E3-E5, so I would say that is the range he is most comfortable and confident in and can sing without any strain on his voice. I remember listening to that stripped version of Aftermath just once...that's all I could stand! I'm not sure the very highest notes were really words, and it wasn't really pleasant to my ears without any reverb/warmth/echo or whatever you want to call it added. It worked when the whole recording was put together, but not by itself! I doubt he'd try to make those sounds on a concert situation.
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Post by 3ku1 on Oct 9, 2014 18:00:57 GMT -5
Well, okay then. The vocal range debates again. What notes does one give a singer credit for? If you are talking to SINGERS, to those who study voice classically, a singer's range covers the notes they can accurately and reliably sing in performance. The note must be able to be sustained and sung with control. The singer should be able to articulate a syllable beyond "ah" on that note: be able to sing actual words. The note should be produced with full voice or head voice (modal registers) and not with falsetto, whistle register or vocal fry. The sound should be able to carry and be clearly heard over the instrumental accompaniment. This is a singer's "usable range." The chart above is NOT created using such criteria. It gives credit for both falsetto and whistle techniques as well as vocal fry (very low gravelly, burp sounds), extending the range significantly. It credits any sound produced while singing or talking. To me, that is deceptive. I have no idea how high or low Adam can produce some kind of barely audible sound. Certainly, since he rarely performs with falsetto, we cannot predict how that extends his upper limits, but it probably does significantly. However, his range in the MODAL register of chest, mixed and head voice THAT WE HAVE HEARD RECORDED, is A2 in "Runnin" to Bb5 in a number of songs. I think there was one B5 also noted, but I cannot remember which song that was in. In the harmonies of "Runnin" there is also an E2, but no one can confidently say that is Adam singing naturally, and not altered in the studio, so I don't count that. A2-Bb5 is a remarkable range. It becomes more remarkable when you hear the power, purity, clarity and control with which he can sing those notes. Adam's tone, flexibility, control and consistency are, for me, much more impressive than just the range of actual notes. Thanks Cassie. Again I agree with you 100% As for that B5 note, I think he hit that at the end of Aftermath - you could hear it in the "acapella" version where someone stripped away the instrumental backing leaving just Adam's voice. I can't find a recording of it online to post here, but maybe someone else can? However, tbh I think his voice in that instance did not sound that pleasant to my ears. Which pains me to say cos he has my fave voice of anyone obviously! Aftermath (Live Idol Performance) is one of Adam's few vocal performances, which I consider one of his worst, along with the Ama's. He constantly cracks in his upper range an octave, but I'm not so educated on the technicle side of singing. Different differentations between Live and Studio though But it's all relative. No other Pop Star or Singer today is as consistent as he is IMO.
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Post by Q3 on Oct 9, 2014 18:05:12 GMT -5
SophieB......it's just YOU! lol j/k. Yes, often you're just overwhelmed and can't retain it all. It's sensory overload. Thank goodness for videos to relive it over and over. The Forum was my favorite concert I attended. Like mys*&@^#r said he seemed happy to be playing at home. Plus, this was the only show where I was front and center. The closer you physically are to him, the more memorable the experience IMO even if every little thing audio wise or production wise isn't perfect. The audio is important, but equally important to me are the Adam visuals and him having fun. Being at the end of the thrust in Chicago was also a huge thrill because we didn't know what was coming when they placed "the couch" right in front of us. The closer I am to him -- the less I can remember. I do not have an abosolute favorite Q+AL concert -- I am not sure how to pick -- there were so many special moments. I think Toronto #2 may be my favorite -- I had an amazing "seat" Row 7 on the catwalk, right side -- unobstructed view of both stages. And security was nice there. It was the concert with both Dragon Attack and TSMGO. Adam was in a special vocal place for that concert and totally in-sync with Brian. The crew, Neil, Tiger, Bri, Roger, Adam, maybe even Spike, were all so happy. The audience was also into the concert -- really loud and the energy was amazing. But I had so many great experiences during this tour, it is hard to pick a "best".
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Post by evergreen on Oct 9, 2014 18:12:26 GMT -5
SophieB......it's just YOU! lol j/k. Yes, often you're just overwhelmed and can't retain it all. It's sensory overload. Thank goodness for videos to relive it over and over. The Forum was my favorite concert I attended. Like mys*&@^#r said he seemed happy to be playing at home. Plus, this was the only show where I was front and center. The closer you physically are to him, the more memorable the experience IMO even if every little thing audio wise or production wise isn't perfect. The audio is important, but equally important to me are the Adam visuals and him having fun. Being at the end of the thrust in Chicago was also a huge thrill because we didn't know what was coming when they placed "the couch" right in front of us. I thought the audio at the Forum was excellent! I have that full concert video DLed on my phone & it is fabulous! Have been to the Forum several times & was unimpressed. This was the first show since the remodel for me, and IMO, they did everything right! Even their staff was fabulous & fun! mys*&@^#r - Whose recording did you download?
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Post by lelemaple on Oct 9, 2014 18:19:02 GMT -5
Yes we were! The Forum was my favorite show! He was so happy to be performing at home and the audience gave so much love! Will always remember how thrilled Brian was to be there too & his face as he left the stage at the end. And I was there too! Just loved every second. Only trouble is - I can't remember this bit. In fact, when I look back at videos of the shows I've been at, I always end up thinking, ' I didn't see this' or ' I didn't hear that'... ...even though I am absolutely glued to it all. Does anyone else have that problem? Please don't say it's just me.. I was there and I don't remember a lot of it either, perhaps because my jaw was on the floor the whole time.
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