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Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Apr 13, 2011 7:42:27 GMT -5
Maria Menudoes, An American entertainment reporter, was interviewed this morning. She was asked if there was a common thread she noticed with those that achieved stardom. Her reply, " The upper echelon of stars all have a warm friendly presence. They are the nicest people to be around." She went on to say the people in the middle are the difficult ones, the divas. She speculated that this attitude was the difference between being successful and being a Mega-Star. I couldn't help but think about Adam. Every person who interviews him or works with him speaks of him as nice, warm and a joy to work with. This is the edge that I believe gives Adam the potential to be legendary. This could be one difference between Clay and Adam's relationship with 19. I dunno, I mean I am positive that being nice goes a loooong way, but I would also bet money on the fact that there are supertars who aren't exactly the nicest people or are diav-ish or demanding. I wouldn't exactly think of someone like Madonna as someone who is warm and fuzzy. Of course I don't know her, but I just dont get "nice" vibes from her....and yet she is a legend. There are other examples I'm sure......but my brain is fried and I just can't think of them right now. I thinkas far as Adam is concerned, being nice is prolly just how he was raised. It will def get him respect in the industry and it also helps people who may be gunshy about liking someone so "out there" get over it if they see that he really is just a normal, nice dude under all the razzle dazzle. |
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Post by justwishin on Apr 13, 2011 7:42:35 GMT -5
I just pre-ordered the GNT DVD in Blu-ray from Best Buy--- only $19.99! mmyy9 mmyy9 by terra_zephead [Adam Lambert] Glam Nation Live Blu-ray (Release Date: May 10) available for pre-order on Best Buy bit.ly/fQtddYDoes this mean another viewing party?! lol |
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Post by kittykay on Apr 13, 2011 7:52:25 GMT -5
Please post. I don't see it any different than any other musical artist that might give us insight into Adam's process of making Adam 2. David is Adam's label mate. |
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Post by wonderstruck on Apr 13, 2011 8:00:37 GMT -5
Kris Allen got an acting job on Gigantic...WTFIT? I can't believe that some producer would NOT look at AFL and see the potential of putting him on the screen... After everything that Adam has achieved, world tour, platinum and gold albums/singles around the world, grammy nomination, critical respect, shit-tons of media coverage.... Kris, IMO should be able to have one thing that people aren't all OMG WHY ISN'T THIS ADAM'S!! I wouldn't trade all the success Adam has had for a guest spot on a Disney show that hardly anyone watches that's for sure. I agree and yet there's this nagging suspicion because his managment is 19(aka idol). Didn't Clay Aiken sue them because they didn't have his best interest at heart or something? I recall someone on MJs saying there's a conflict of interest when you're managed by idol. Adam is focused on his new album right now. RCA Ed posted he is not doing TV appearances because Adam doesn't want to -- that he want to focus on his new album. I am certain that if Adam wanted to do some acting, someone w Regarding the Clay story posted a MJs every now and again. I would file this under "just cause someone posts something at MJs doesn't make it true". No fans knows for sure how Clay's attorney (Jess L. Rosen) managed to break Clay's contract with 19 Management but it is believed by many Idol watchers that the some of the early season Idol management contracts were not done properly and contestants signed without full knowledge of what they were doing (insufficient legal representation). Whatever the issue was, it was corrected before 2005. Clay has said that 19M and RCA did not have his best interests at the forefront and was outspokenly critical of both. I think that several later Idols -- Cook and Adam are good examples -- have shown that you can have control over much of what you do. Clay appeared to actually do better when 19M represented him than he did after, and similarly did better with RCA than his short stay was UMG/Decca. JMHO usually artists/performers should look in the mirror when they have career issues. Exactly right Q3! Clay was on in the second season of Idol. They were still figuring themselves out and had no idea where the show would lead at that point. I hear all the time who Clay "sued" to get out of his contract with 19 and I just laugh cuz I want to ask "so how did that work out for him?" LOL... Only one idol has left 19 and done better and that was Kelly. She asked to be released from 19 and Simon Fuller agreed and she went to The Firm and that's when her career sky rocketed. She has since left The Firm and is now managed by Narvel Blackstock (Reba McEntire's husband). I also agree that almost always it is the artist who is at fault if their career has issues. It is the goal of the label and management to make an artist successful, that's how they make their money. |
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Post by kittykay on Apr 13, 2011 8:02:30 GMT -5
Maria Menudoes, An American entertainment reporter, was interviewed this morning. She was asked if there was a common thread she noticed with those that achieved stardom. Her reply, " The upper echelon of stars all have a warm friendly presence. They are the nicest people to be around." She went on to say the people in the middle are the difficult ones, the divas. She speculated that this attitude was the difference between being successful and being a Mega-Star. I couldn't help but think about Adam. Every person who interviews him or works with him speaks of him as nice, warm and a joy to work with. This is the edge that I believe gives Adam the potential to be legendary. This could be one difference between Clay and Adam's relationship with 19. I dunno, I mean I am positive that being nice goes a loooong way, but I would also bet money on the fact that there are supertars who aren't exactly the nicest people or are diav-ish or demanding. I wouldn't exactly think of someone like Madonna as someone who is warm and fuzzy. Of course I don't know her, but I just dont get "nice" vibes from her....and yet she is a legend. There are other examples I'm sure......but my brain is fried and I just can't think of them right now. I thinkas far as Adam is concerned, being nice is prolly just how he was raised. It will def get him respect in the industry and it also helps people who may be gunshy about liking someone so "out there" get over it if they see that he really is just a normal, nice dude under all the razzle dazzle. I don't know about the Madonna today but she was very warm when she was younger. I worked for a company, in Grad school, that arranged the housing for the cast of "A league of their own". We were all invited as extras on the set several times. A friend of mine was the lighting double for Tom Hanks. Everyone who worked with her described her as tiny, incredible body and so warm, they did say all of it with surprise. She may not have a "nice" persona, but she does have a presence. Adam described her as very "zen" on Oprah. You may be right about Madonna not being "nice", but she does have a presence. Adam referred to her as being very Zin. |
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Post by tigerlily on Apr 13, 2011 8:04:53 GMT -5
kittykat: ??
It's not different. RCA Ed is someone who works with both Adam's and Cook's promotional teams, who are on the exact same label. Therefore, the information could be useful in looking to album #2 for Adam. Of course, their roll out will be individualized- but there is still some interesting and potentially useful information about RCA and how they handle their promo for singles and albums.
That's why I left the link for Q3 and the numbers type people. Some people like to know about what goes on behind the scenes. (as much as they will let us know-haha)
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Post by Q3 on Apr 13, 2011 8:09:17 GMT -5
All the Idols since AI7 have had a fastly different experience with 19 and RCA.1
9 Entertainment is a very different company now than it was in 2003-2005. They are more established and Simon Fuller is now just a consultant. For all of the talk about Simon Fuller personally managing Adam and handling Adam's UK launch, there is little evidence he was actively engaged. Similarly, Kelly and Clay were at RCA during the Clive Davis era and Clive was very aggressively involved in both of their careers.
Clay had creative control of his 4th album (3rd studio album) On My Way Here. He picked the theme, the songs, the producer. It was his first post-Clive album, he was not with 19M, it was not a success.
I am not a Clay fan or anti-fan -- but he was a very nice voice, if things had gone differently, he could have had a more successful career. I just do not think that one can blame either 19M or RCA for the fact that his career peaked the year after Idol.
It is one thing to be a successful recording artist -- and Clay was wildly successful in 2003-2004 -- harder to sustain it. He had some clear challenges.....most notably a 3 year gap between his first two studio albums and then releasing an AC album with 10 undistinguished cover songs and 4 original songs. The 2 singles were only pushed to AC radio and both got minimal airplay on the radio format he should have owned.
Adam is very different from Clay -- both as a person and as an artist.
Adam has demonstrated that he knows a long gap in releasing music or lack of creative focus on creating meaningful, quality, original work could mark his decline. I think the difference between success and failure in the recording business is based on Timing, Intelligence, Broad Music Awareness and (now more than ever) Fan Retention. I think Adam gets it.
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Post by tigerlily on Apr 13, 2011 8:22:53 GMT -5
Kris Allen got an acting job on Gigantic...WTFIT? I can't believe that some producer would NOT look at AFL and see the potential of putting him on the screen... After everything that Adam has achieved, world tour, platinum and gold albums/singles around the world, grammy nomination, critical respect, shit-tons of media coverage.... Kris, IMO should be able to have one thing that people aren't all OMG WHY ISN'T THIS ADAM'S!! JMO, but I don't think Adam would have even considered this small, joke of a role on such a silly little show. Why would he? Adam isn't desperate. He's not going to say yes to everything because he is at a different level. He's not going to be playing in bars for a five dollar cover charge or jumping on every little promotional opportunity because he doesn't have anything else going on. There is something to be said for choosing wisely! I'm not worried in the least about Adam and his multi-media opportunities for the future. I will start to worry if he gets a dog and starts carrying it around as an accessory and using it for promo opportunities. ;D :  Q3: Well, it might be fun to see how much of the information RCA Ed puts out actually turns out to be true. It might give us an idea of how much he "really knows" before he comes back to AO and starts spouting his know-it-all info. I've always wondered how much is fact and how much is just information thrown out there to appease the masses. No problem! I could care less about Cook's single, album and track list. I wish him the best, but I doubt I'll be interested in his new music. |
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Post by Q3 on Apr 13, 2011 8:23:06 GMT -5
Please post. I don't see it any different than any other musical artist that might give us insight into Adam's process of making Adam 2. David is Adam's label mate. Just a suggestion about RCA Ed -- his job is not to promote artists for RCA -- his job is to manage social media for RCA Artists. That means a lot of what he posts on AO.com, Daughtry.com and now DCO is to keep fans engaged and positive. Here is a post of his from DCO (David Cook Official): I have spent more years than I can to admit analyzing how consumer shop -- and what they cross buy -- I know (and Ed knows) that this is nonsense. Gaga fans are not likely to buy David Cook's single. It is just Ed's attempt to respond to the fan angst. (I have watched him do the same thing on AO for over a year.) Another example of spin.... ETA: It is fine to bring over general record industry info from DCO to the news thread -- but leave the details like "when will David Cook's new track list be available" over there. Just like any other artist on this site. If the info provides insight into how RCA runs it's business, and applies to Adam. Fine. If it is solely about another artist, leave it there. And just remember -- Ed is a PR/promo guy for RCA, not an unbiased music industry expert. He has a job to do. |
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Post by kittykay on Apr 13, 2011 8:26:01 GMT -5
I don't know anything about film acting, except you get more than one shot at getting it right. I'm quite certain that Adam would be brilliant in any acting role. ;D I've collected a few comments from people that directed Adam in plays. Not all of the comments are about his voice. During his time at MET2, Adam played the title role in “Peter Pan,” Huck Finn in “Big River,” Linus in “You’re a Good Man Charlie Brown” and the stratosphere-reaching Russian Tenor in “Fiddler on the Roof.” In “The Secret Garden,” he played both the magical young Dickon and the hunchbacked, tormented uncle, Archie. In fact, founding artistic director Alex Urban added the show to the company’s repertoire because of Adam; he knew that the mega-talented 16-year-old could sing that difficult, vocally demanding role.
Read more: www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-05-11/things-to-do/adam-lambert-returns-to-musical-theater-roots#ixzz1JOHfhyrP “He did six shows with me at Mt. Carmel,” Smith recalls, “and he was absolutely fantastic. He had light hair then, but he always liked to dress up and be flamboyant.”
It might surprise the “Glamberts,” Adam’s diehard fans, but not all the shows he did in high school were musicals. He appeared in Arthur Miller’s “The Crucible” in his sophomore year.
“He played a small but memorable part – the marshal, Willard,” says Smith. “He was very convincing.”
In his junior year, in Thornton Wilder’s “The Matchmaker,” the non-musical inspiration for “Hello, Dolly!” he was Horace Vandergelder. And in his senior year, Adam played the hilarious, ass-headed Bottom in “A Midsummer Night’s Dream.”
“Oh my god, he was funny,” Smith recalls with a laugh. “He has great comedic talent, which you haven’t really gotten to see on ‘American Idol.’”
Of course, Adam also displayed his musical talent in high school, in “The Pirates of Penzance,” and as anguished Uncle Archibald in “The Secret Garden.”
“When he sang ‘Lily’s Eyes,’” Smith says of the show’s beautiful memory ballad, “he got a standing ovation every night. I always felt he’d go on to big things. He was a consummate entertainer, even then. He really knows how to bring a character forth in a song. There’s a power and force to his interpretations. That’s one of the reasons he’s so successful at so many different types of songs.
Doug Smith (Adam's MCHS Drama Teacher)
www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-05-18/things-to-do/adam-lamberts-theater-days-are-fondly-remembered#ixzz1IvPqCwTV
While in high school, Lambert also did several youth- and adult-cast shows at the Moonlight Amphitheatre in Vista, including playing Captain Hook in a youth-cast "Peter Pan" and playing Doody in Moonlight's 2000 adult-cast production of "Grease." Joshua Carr, his director for both productions, remembers Lambert's laserlike attention to detail.
"You could see the focus in his eyes and the drive to be the best he could be," said Carr, the new theater manager/producer at Welk Resort Theatre in Escondido. "He started with me in the youth theater program and immediately displayed commitment and drive even at that young age, and he quickly moved into the leading roles."
www.nctimes.com/entertainment/music/article_c554fdeb-3b1e-5973-a9bc-f8f4fb416311.html Kathy Brombacher, Moonlight's producing artistic director, remembers Lambert's upbeat personality and exceptional voice.
"He is bright, friendly, funny, down to earth and grounded," Brombacher said. "Despite his talent, he doesn't have an inflated head, and he's so articulate and professional in the way he conducts himself."
Brombacher said Lambert's flamboyant stage personality was already developing in his teens, particularly in the role of, what else, the flamboyant pirate Captain Hook.
"He was an adventuresome performer as Captain Hook," she said. "He was always out there for the journey. He wanted to be different and put his own stamp on it -- and he did."
www.nctimes.com/entertainment/music/article_c554fdeb-3b1e-5973-a9bc-f8f4fb416311.html Director/choreography Ray Limon, co-founder of LimonCarr Productions in Tustin, also directed Adam, and never quite forgot him from his days performing at Moonlight Stage Productions.
“He was a great kid when he did ‘Grease,’” recalls Limon. “He always had that voice. One year, when we were doing our annual fundraiser, ‘Broadway at the Moonlight,’ spotlighting all the former Moonlight performers who’d gone on to Equity and Broadway, we added him into the mix. He was the youngest performer we’d ever had in the production. He was just in high school then. And ‘Chess’ was another very adult show he appeared in. It was very impressive for him to be cast. He had the lead song, ‘Pity the Child.’ I’d love to hear him sing that now.”
Limon is about to direct “Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat” at the Welk Theatre in Escondido, for which he recently auditioned 300 actor/singers.
“As talented as they were,” says Limon, “Adam’s talent is way beyond that. He’s like the little cartoon character, Vavoom, the little tiny guy who goes up to the mountains and hits a note and the mountains crumble."
Ray Limon (Director/Choreography )
Read more: www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-05-18/things-to-do/adam-lamberts-theater-days-are-fondly-remembered#ixzz1G0bFYpBU
Lambert joined the national tour of "Wicked" in 2005 and was the understudy for Fiyero (the male lead) in the L.A. production from February 2007 until it closed last fall.
In an interview last week with the Associated Press, "Wicked" casting agent Bernard Telsey said of Lambert's audition: "He came in and had that amazing voice -- or as I like to say, 'instrument,' because he has this incredible range. I literally remember saying, 'Oh my God, this guy has the highest range.' "
www.nctimes.com/entertainment/music/article_c554fdeb-3b1e-5973-a9bc-f8f4fb416311.html Thanks for this post. I started reading and fell down the rabbit whole. I read a quote and soon I read all the articles again. So enlightening. |
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