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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 23:47:33 GMT -5
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Post by nonotme on Jan 18, 2015 0:02:02 GMT -5
USAToday quotes Borchetta this way: Are there contestants from earlier years Borchetta would have like to work with? "Adam Lambert comes to mind. I think a lot of people think Adam won. He's an enormous talent..and a lot of the choices he made stunted his career."
I wonder what his complete statement was. www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/01/17/idol-sings-again/21931809/peace&love Yep Adam's career has been just terrible. Poor guy. Too bad he could only afford one house in Hollywood. Does the dude think Adam is washed up???? Since Borchetta is a music exec I think he probably thinks that if he had been handling Adam's career Adam would have become a superstar right away. When he says "a lot of the choices" Adam made, I wonder what he means. Just my personal curiosity. Obviously, "a lot" means more than the one or two that get discussed as possibly hurting Adam. It would be interesting to know what he thinks should have happened. Not that Borchetta would necessarily be right... Borchetta was probably thinking sort of along the lines of what Cameron Strang of Warner Bros. is quoted as saying, only with some emphasis on Adam making poor choices that was not in Strang's comment quoted below. First of all, his voice. We all feel that there's a great career there as an artist and as a singer. Maybe things hadn't lined up right for him historically, there's a lot of trial and error in our business, but we felt like he's really ready. He's already on a career path that has its bumps and ups and downs but we felt it was an opportunity for somebody who's really poised to have a great career.
Anyway, you are definitely right that Adam has done well. And he is poised to do even better. Also, it seems that he is the kind of person who has to take his own path and learn his own lessons. It is part of why we enjoy following his journey. peace&love |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 0:05:11 GMT -5
USAToday quotes Borchetta this way: Are there contestants from earlier years Borchetta would have like to work with? "Adam Lambert comes to mind. I think a lot of people think Adam won. He's an enormous talent..and a lot of the choices he made stunted his career."
I wonder what his complete statement was. www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/01/17/idol-sings-again/21931809/peace&love Yep Adam's career has been just terrible. Poor guy. Too bad he could only afford one house in Hollywood. Does the dude think Adam is washed up???? He does not think Adam is washed up, he has complimented him numerous times. Even here he is saying he wishes he had been able to work with Adam. Like it or not, there have been some missteps that have held Adam back. A good Image is invaluable. A risky album cover, a racy AMA performance, over the top dress and makeup, etc all impacted his image in a negative way to a lot of people. Most of us here appreciate the risks he took and love him for them, but many others turned tail and ran. Others simply saw him as a joke. Adam has busted his butt to rebuild his image, it slowly but surely paying off. Borchetta is a master at image building and selling that product. Two words for you, Taylor Swift. If you read the WB/MM inteviews, they basically said the same thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 0:15:00 GMT -5
The absence of Glee is the biggest mystery though...He had 5 episodes, I am sure this can add up..I can't see him being paid less than $100K /episode and most probably more than that... The commenter talking about previous year earnings has no clue what kind of $$$$ Asian gigs pay. Dimsissing those as insignificant is just silly. Agree! That commenter is a butthurt fan of either Kris or Phillip! Also very stoopid to not realize the amount Asian gigs pay! He will be #1 next year! I may have gone over there & thanked him for going above and beyond to answer questions. Might have asked him about Glee too! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  One is a claymate, both are butthurt morons. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 0:19:49 GMT -5
Yep Adam's career has been just terrible. Poor guy. Too bad he could only afford one house in Hollywood. Does the dude think Adam is washed up???? He does not think Adam is washed up, he has complimented him numerous times. Even here he is saying he wishes he had been able to work with Adam. Like it or not, there have been some missteps that have held Adam back. A good Image is invaluable. A risky album cover, a racy AMA performance, over the top dress and makeup, etc all impacted his image in a negative way to a lot of people. Most of us here appreciate the risks he took and love him for them, but many others turned tail and ran. Others simply saw him as a joke. Adam has busted his butt to rebuild his image, it slowly but surely paying off. Borchetta is a master at image building and selling that product. Two words for you, Taylor Swift. If you read the WB/MM inteviews, they basically said the same thing. We can't ever know how many fans he lost over taking risks anymore than we can say hiw many he gained by taking risks. Bottom line is, Adam has been Adam all the way on this journey and I believe that is the way he wants it & always will. IMO, one of the biggest things that hurt his career was RCA trying to make him safe during era 2. Not letting Adam's own amazing songs become singles. The FYE era did just great! I don't think of "trial and error" as the same thing as "making mistakes." Adam has gone from 26 year old to a 33 year old right before our eyes! He's matured! But I think & hope, he will always be a risk taker and never play it safe. |
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Post by nica575 on Jan 18, 2015 0:23:34 GMT -5
OMG!!! DR MAY RTed ME AGAIN!!!! Congrats! What was the tweet? Re Forbes: I hope he answers the question you might've gone there and asked  |
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Post by nica575 on Jan 18, 2015 0:37:02 GMT -5
He does not think Adam is washed up, he has complimented him numerous times. Even here he is saying he wishes he had been able to work with Adam. Like it or not, there have been some missteps that have held Adam back. A good Image is invaluable. A risky album cover, a racy AMA performance, over the top dress and makeup, etc all impacted his image in a negative way to a lot of people. Most of us here appreciate the risks he took and love him for them, but many others turned tail and ran. Others simply saw him as a joke. Adam has busted his butt to rebuild his image, it slowly but surely paying off. Borchetta is a master at image building and selling that product. Two words for you, Taylor Swift. If you read the WB/MM inteviews, they basically said the same thing. Bottom line is, Adam has been Adam all the way on this journey and I believe that is the way he wants it & always will. IMO, one of the biggest things that hurt his career was RCA trying to make him safe during era 2. Not letting Adam's own amazing songs become singles. The FYE era did just great! I don't think of "trial and error" as the same thing as "making mistakes." Adam has gone from 26 year old to a 33 year old right before our eyes! He's matured! But I think & hope, he will always be a risk taker and never play it safe. EXACTLY! I can't agree more on both bolded points! Honestly, as much as I want Adam to rule the pop world, I'd rather see him continue being himself and not become some watered down shadow of himself. (BTIKM and NCOE as the prime example of "safe" choices). There is too much talent there... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 0:40:36 GMT -5
OMG!!! DR MAY RTed ME AGAIN!!!! Congrats! What was the tweet? Re Forbes: I hope he answers the question you might've gone there and asked I said how thrilled I was that they finally got to play this show for their "hometown" and attached a pic of the full areana!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 0:52:58 GMT -5
He does not think Adam is washed up, he has complimented him numerous times. Even here he is saying he wishes he had been able to work with Adam. Like it or not, there have been some missteps that have held Adam back. A good Image is invaluable. A risky album cover, a racy AMA performance, over the top dress and makeup, etc all impacted his image in a negative way to a lot of people. Most of us here appreciate the risks he took and love him for them, but many others turned tail and ran. Others simply saw him as a joke. Adam has busted his butt to rebuild his image, it slowly but surely paying off. Borchetta is a master at image building and selling that product. Two words for you, Taylor Swift. If you read the WB/MM inteviews, they basically said the same thing. We can't ever know how many fans he lost over taking risks anymore than we can say hiw many he gained by taking risks. Bottom line is, Adam has been Adam all the way on this journey and I believe that is the way he wants it & always will. IMO, one of the biggest things that hurt his career was RCA trying to make him safe during era 2. Not letting Adam's own amazing songs become singles. The FYE era did just great! I don't think of "trial and error" as the same thing as "making mistakes." Adam has gone from 26 year old to a 33 year old right before our eyes! He's matured! But I think & hope, he will always be a risk taker and never play it safe. I can only attest to what I have encountered personally and that is that some of the choices made during that early perriod created a bigger loss than gain. Water cooler discussions if you will. I don't dispute RCA being a big problem with E2. During all the promo Adam looked like a million bucks, sold his product with conviction, and sang like only he can. Unfortunately he was saddled with two crappy singles, which ultimately caused his music to not be heard. Even with that, I think his promo work was beneficial, media coverage is much more positive toward him now without a doubt. I see "Trial and error " and "mistakes" as being the error part of that exercise. Really the two are same thing just presented in a different light. Everyone makes mistakes, there is no growth without setbacks. Totally agree that Adam is a much more mature now and I think also a more measured decision maker. That does not mean one has to be "safe", it means you take your risks based careful analysis of probable outcomes. Whatever he chooses to do and however he chooses to present himself and his product is fine by me. I am here for the duration, enjoying every moment and looking forward to E3 as well. |
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Post by nica575 on Jan 18, 2015 1:17:01 GMT -5
We can't ever know how many fans he lost over taking risks anymore than we can say hiw many he gained by taking risks. Bottom line is, Adam has been Adam all the way on this journey and I believe that is the way he wants it & always will. IMO, one of the biggest things that hurt his career was RCA trying to make him safe during era 2. Not letting Adam's own amazing songs become singles. The FYE era did just great! I don't think of "trial and error" as the same thing as "making mistakes." Adam has gone from 26 year old to a 33 year old right before our eyes! He's matured! But I think & hope, he will always be a risk taker and never play it safe. . Water cooler discussions if you will. I don't dispute RCA being a big problem with E2. During all the promo Adam looked like a million bucks, sold his product with conviction, and sang like only he can. Unfortunately he was saddled with two crappy singles, which ultimately caused his music to not be heard. Even with that, I think his promo work was beneficial, media coverage is much more positive toward him now without a doubt. I see "Trial and error " and "mistakes" as being the error part of that exercise. Really the two are same thing just presented in a different light. Everyone makes mistakes, there is no growth without setbacks. Totally agree that Adam is a much more mature now and I think also a more measured decision maker. That does not mean one has to be "safe", it means you take your risks based careful analysis of probable outcomes. Whatever he chooses to do and however he chooses to present himself and his product is fine by me. I am here for the duration, enjoying every moment and looking forward to E3 as well. The thing is the choices that caused some losses in the US brought the gains outside of the US. I am not even sure what is more beneficial in the long run, as those that "left" would've abandoned him eventually anyway. We live in a country where an 18-year old displaying an arsenal of weapons is celebrated where as a 27 year old kissing another human being is vilified. IMO everything that happened is a blessing and he is on his own, unique path. |
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