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Post by lambo on May 7, 2012 11:43:25 GMT -5
Runnin' autotune is "my heart's beating faster, I know what I'm AFterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr yeah-eah-eah-eah-eah", autotune in italics. It's not that big a deal but it's a bit of a moodkill when it's so obvious, to me at least.
How could I forget Foxwoods WLL! But yes if this harmony is indeed Adam then Runnin' blows it out of the water in terms of sheer range displayed. anjalee said it best: "the secret baritone"!
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Post by cassie on May 7, 2012 13:04:51 GMT -5
Brought over from the daily thread, to archive. Cassie, why does Underneath causes my heart to feel so wretched, so much pain? Are you asking what he is doing vocally that tears at your heart? Well, here is what I hear: At the very beginning, he sings very lightly, with an almost straight tone (no vibrato), adding a bit of a breathy quality. The sound is, at once, open, simple, intimate, and vulnerable. Then, the second verse, he eliminates the breathy quality and the tone gets progressively more and more piercing -- by the way he focuses his sound way up front and high in his facial mask. He also adds a squeeze to the notes by tightening the muscles in his throat (as opposed to many pop singers who get that tone by tightening up their vocal folds and forcing air thru them --- not good for the voice). You know how, when you are on the verge of tears, fighting them back, your throat tightens and almost closes off? The tone he uses evokes that feeling when you hear it. It really wails, not as in a rock wail, but as in a wailing wall wail. It really is masterful, isn't it? And, when he sings that final two phrases, he drops all tension, and his voice sounds, again, totally open and vulnerable. |
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Post by cassie on May 7, 2012 13:05:59 GMT -5
One more comment about Underneath. We often talk about Adam having an arc to his songs. This one certainly does. Not only with the words, but with the way Adam sings it. At the beginning, the open, easy, vulnerable tone is like when you have finally caved in and decided to tell someone you are close to something that has been very painful and hidden. When you exhale a breath of air and say, "Whew. Okay, here goes."
Then, as you start to tell the "untell-able", you fight back the tears, your throat clenches up, and finally the tears of pain come out in sobs. That's the middle part of Underneath with that piercing tone and tightened throat.
You think you have made it thru the telling, the revealing, the tears and pain, and calmly say, "Welcome to my world of truth," you look at the other person whose expression is filled with love and compassion, and that sets you off again in another spasm of tears. Hear Adam do that?
Finally, having purged yourself of the pain you had bottled up for so long, you feel drained, exhausted. You look at your loved one, heave a huge sigh, shrug, and say, "Well, that's it. Now you know." Or as Adam says at the end, totally broken open, "Welcome to my world of truth. I don't want to hide any part of me from you."
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Post by cassie on May 7, 2012 13:15:02 GMT -5
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Okay, "Runnin" is seriously freaking me out here. Such a luscious low register. A true, rich baritone sound. Wonderful to listen to. But then, he keeps going up and up. He flips into his blend of chest and head voice and produces a completely different color to his voice.
Hearing the baritone sound, if he were a normal earthling, I would expect him to be pushing hard to hit those higher notes, but, no. It's effortless and crystal clear. At about 2:45 he sings that baritone tone and then jumps up an octave and half, then two octaves above for "I know what I'm after". The two phrases sound like two completely different vocalists.
I'd love to play this for a singer totally unfamiliar with Adam. I bet they would think it was a "duet." They would be blown away when I told them (after the first listen thru) that all the lead and harmonies were sung by the same guy.
Theoretically, I have known Adam could do this. But hearing it in one song is a totally different reality. DAMN!
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Post by eri9 on May 8, 2012 14:31:46 GMT -5
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Post by eri9 on May 9, 2012 2:29:29 GMT -5
His voice in Broken English and Nirvana .... the smooth, legato lines of his voice.... like the smoothest, sweetest velvety chocolate....
I know how he sings legato lines has been discussed before, but I really noticed it in these two songs in particular.
Just makes me melt!!!!!!!
His voice, the layered harmonies...... this is quite simply a masterpiece.
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Post by gabby on May 12, 2012 21:27:59 GMT -5
cassie ... I know Angelina made a comparison of Adam vs Freddie from the EMA performance which she posted on her blog. Love that comparison .... however, there is a verse that Adam changed and I was wondering if you can expand on that since English is not my primary language ... does it relate to Freddie knowing he is dying and won't give in to depression (or whatever) and Adam's being so much to look forward to and not giving up any hope? Freddie's: "The show must go on I'll face it with a grin I'm never giving in" Adam's: "The show must go on I'll face it with a grin I'm never giving up" At 2:04 www.muzu.tv/sonisphereuk/emas-directors-cut-queen-adam-lambert-medley-music-video/1301537/ Thanks!
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Post by cassie on May 12, 2012 21:57:33 GMT -5
cassie ... I know Angelina made a comparison of Adam vs Freddie from the EMA performance which she posted on her blog. Love that comparison .... however, there is a verse that Adam changed and I was wondering if you can expand on that since English is not my primary language ... does it relate to Freddie knowing he is dying and won't give in to depression (or whatever) and Adam's being so much to look forward to and not giving up any hope? Freddie's: "The show must go on I'll face it with a grin I'm never giving in" Adam's: "The show must go on I'll face it with a grin I'm never giving up" At 2:04 www.muzu.tv/sonisphereuk/emas-directors-cut-queen-adam-lambert-medley-music-video/1301537/ Thanks! Actually, I hear Adam also sing "I'm never giving in". He is modifying the vowel for a richer, more powerful sound on the high note. To sing the short "i" sound in "in", you have to close your mouth somewhat, limiting the resonance there. By singing something closer to an "ehhhh", or short "e" sound, he can open his mouth wider, while still singing something close to the literal pronunciation. Adam, and indeed most trained singers, modify the pronunciation of vowels all the time to get the resonance and sound they want. You know how Adam often pronounces "me" as "meh"? Sometimes it is for attitude, but most of the time, it is to get the more rounded tone. You cannot pronounce an "eeee" with your mouth wide open. Try it. Impossible. You can pronounce the "eh" tho. What singers frequently do is sing "ehh", "ahh" or "awww" for the vowels thru the sustained part and add the more closed vowel at the very end of the note. So, Adam sings "meh----------ee" or "waaw-----rld" on the end of that idol performance. That's what I hear, anyway. |
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Post by gabby on May 12, 2012 22:17:52 GMT -5
Actually, I hear Adam also sing "I'm never giving in". He is modifying the vowel for a richer, more powerful sound on the high note. To sing the short "i" sound in "in", you have to close your mouth somewhat, limiting the resonance there. By singing something closer to an "ehhhh", or short "e" sound, he can open his mouth wider, while still singing something close to the literal pronunciation. Adam, and indeed most trained singers, modify the pronunciation of vowels all the time to get the resonance and sound they want. You know how Adam often pronounces "me" as "meh"? Sometimes it is for attitude, but most of the time, it is to get the more rounded tone. You cannot pronounce an "eeee" with your mouth wide open. Try it. Impossible. You can pronounce the "eh" tho. What singers frequently do is sing "ehh", "ahh" or "awww" for the vowels thru the sustained part and add the more closed vowel at the very end of the note. So, Adam sings "meh----------ee" or "waaw-----rld" on the end of that idol performance. That's what I hear, anyway. Thanks, cassie... I did listen to it again and you are right... it was the way he pronounced the vowel that distorts the sound in my ear canal ;D ETA: Or Freddie singing it the way it was because it is just as simple as "IN" rhymes with "GRIN" |
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Post by Holst on May 13, 2012 11:11:04 GMT -5
Thanks for this visual. Although I am a musician, I admit to getting lost in the numbered octaves.  |
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