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Post by Albiku on Nov 16, 2012 14:39:57 GMT -5
"When I analyze Adam's vocals, I never do it with a frame of mind of critiquing a performance or trying to find flaws. First of all they are very rare to begin with and I cannot see how doing that would be fun at all. But rather do I know that his vocal ability is so beyond of any question, that when it is discussed this is not about right or wrong, it is about personality and about interpretation and on that level it is sometimes interesting to look a bit deeper." I think we all agree. I don't think any of us analyze Adam's vocals purposely trying to find flaws. The rest of the post is beautiful.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 15:12:19 GMT -5
Haha, my singing teacher is an Adam fan but complained about his lack of low range, so I emailed her Runnin' and she said "I bet he recorded that low bit for all the vocal coaches out there moaning about his weaker chest voice. ; )". I laughed because Cassie said almost exactly the same thing back when we first heard it :4OMG:
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Post by Albiku on Nov 16, 2012 18:23:58 GMT -5
Haha, my singing teacher is an Adam fan but complained about his lack of low range, so I emailed her Runnin' and she said "I bet he recorded that low bit for all the vocal coaches out there moaning about his weaker chest voice. ; )". I laughed because Cassie said almost exactly the same thing back when we first heard it :4OMG: I love his lower notes. :wub: I wish we could hear Runnin live. |
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Post by cassie on Nov 16, 2012 18:39:08 GMT -5
Anyone else hearing a different vocal tone in this than in Adam's other ballads? I noticed it in CPT but it is there again in this version, so I think it is a style choice. You hear it clearly when he sings the chorus "Red river of screams". It sounds to me like he is adding deeper chest resonance. It has the "feel" that he is choking up, his throat constricting with grief, and is pushing from his diaphragm/chest to break thru the constriction. Lots of "angst" in the tone.
Is it my imagination or are others hearing it, too? Brilliant choice, if that is what it is.
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Post by Albiku on Nov 16, 2012 18:48:41 GMT -5
Anyone else hearing a different vocal tone in this than in Adam's other ballads? I noticed it in CPT but it is there again in this version, so I think it is a style choice. You hear it clearly when he sings the chorus "Red river of screams". It sounds to me like he is adding deeper chest resonance. It has the "feel" that he is choking up, his throat constricting with grief, and is pushing from his diaphragm/chest to break thru the constriction. Lots of "angst" in the tone. Is it my imagination or are others hearing it, too? Brilliant choice, if that is what it is. Not your imagination, I hear it too. When we saw the first uncomplete video, I said that he sounded kinda tired. Well, that's not it at all! Like you said, it has the feel that he's choking up. As if he was getting so emotional that the voice couldn't come out right... yet it comes out right. I don't know how to explain it. It's as if he was crying. Like I said in the main thread, it captivates me. I can't take my eyes out of Adam, and I can't wait until we get a better video with close ups. ILHSFM... :wub: |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 18:50:01 GMT -5
I hear it but had no idea how to articulate what I was hearing. Grief, sadness all in one tone. Love you Cassie, the how is so nice to know..
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Post by butterknife on Nov 16, 2012 19:11:36 GMT -5
Haha, my singing teacher is an Adam fan but complained about his lack of low range, so I emailed her Runnin' and she said "I bet he recorded that low bit for all the vocal coaches out there moaning about his weaker chest voice. ; )". I laughed because Cassie said almost exactly the same thing back when we first heard it [img src=" ![]() i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/OMGlam.gif"] [/IMG] [/quote] I love his lower notes. [img src=" ![]() i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/wub.gif"][/IMG] I wish we could hear Runnin live. [/quote] I remember in some threads on other forums people actually doubted Adam can pull that 'Runnin' song off live... How hard is it for him to sing his low register like that live? Like some of his old songs like Can't Let You Go & Pick You Up, they are both very hard to sing live too. And he never performed them. But we actually heard Adam sang like he sang the last part in CLYG in some live performances (i.e Miami jingle bell WWFM the ending notes). One or two live performances? No effin problem at all. Every night on tour? No way. Too demanding and unnecessary. As for the low register parts in 'Runnin', never before heard he used his low register like that. I really think his voice definitely has changed (evolved) and even got wider range and better vocal control. IMO, he definitely can pull 'Runnin' off live. It is just a matter of how he choose to sing it. It might be very different from the CD version. We'll see. (But if he sings like he does in CD, I will be so thrilled  ) |
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Post by butterknife on Nov 16, 2012 19:50:38 GMT -5
Anyone else hearing a different vocal tone in this than in Adam's other ballads? I noticed it in CPT but it is there again in this version, so I think it is a style choice. You hear it clearly when he sings the chorus "Red river of screams". It sounds to me like he is adding deeper chest resonance. It has the "feel" that he is choking up, his throat constricting with grief, and is pushing from his diaphragm/chest to break thru the constriction. Lots of "angst" in the tone. Is it my imagination or are others hearing it, too? Brilliant choice, if that is what it is. Hey, Cassie. I definitely hear what you hear. I love your explanation. I am hoping getting more of 'UNDERNEATH' vids cuz in this one Adam's voice sounds very different from the CT one. The CT one somehow I can manage the 'softer' pain he delivered in that song. But this J'b rendition made me almost chocked and hard to breath every time I listen to it. VERY PAINFUL. His vocal in this version is just too darkly powerful (maybe that 'deeper chest resonance' u mentioned). He used this a bit in CT version but not like this one this time. He didn't even sing the 'black' in head voice (is it originally head voice?). He brought both anger & heavy pain to the audience this time. I really like this version although too much emotion to take whenever I am listening. |
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Post by cassie on Nov 16, 2012 20:52:23 GMT -5
[/IMG] I wish we could hear Runnin live. [/quote] I remember in some threads on other forums people actually doubted Adam can pull that 'Runnin' song off live... How hard is it for him to sing his low register like that live? Like some of his old songs like Can't Let You Go & Pick You Up, they are both very hard to sing live too. And he never performed them. But we actually heard Adam sang like he sang the last part in CLYG in some live performances (i.e Miami jingle bell WWFM the ending notes). One or two live performances? No effin problem at all. Every night on tour? No way. Too demanding and unnecessary. As for the low register parts in 'Runnin', never before heard he used his low register like that. I really think his voice definitely has changed (evolved) and even got wider range and better vocal control. IMO, he definitely can pull 'Runnin' off live. It is just a matter of how he choose to sing it. It might be very different from the CD version. We'll see. (But if he sings like he does in CD, I will be so thrilled ) [/quote] I don't know why he never sang PYU live. I don't see/hear anything in it that is more difficult than other songs in his repertoire. Yes, there is that trick they did with the extended "one breath" phrasing on the studio recording, but it could easily be broken up into a couple of phrases without hurting the song. CLYG is a monster in the original key. Not only does it go high, but it goes high with lyrics, which is more difficult to sing than an open vowel sound. I think he is capable of singing it live, but not as a regular feature. A one off, possibly. Runnin' and his low register. I can only speak from personal experience here. I had a role in a musical that was meant for an alto, and I am a mezzo soprano. I worked on the songs and was able to access my low register; even developed some power in it. However, it required specific warm up exercises and relaxing techniques to do. If I had had to sing soprano, then switch during the show to the low alto range, then back again to soprano, not sure how well I could do it. Based on my experience, he COULD sing Runnin' as a single song, but, in the middle of a set when he has warmed up for the high notes, it might be difficult. But, Adam does difficult all the time. I don't put it beyond him. |
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Post by cassie on Nov 16, 2012 20:55:11 GMT -5
Anyone else hearing a different vocal tone in this than in Adam's other ballads? I noticed it in CPT but it is there again in this version, so I think it is a style choice. You hear it clearly when he sings the chorus "Red river of screams". It sounds to me like he is adding deeper chest resonance. It has the "feel" that he is choking up, his throat constricting with grief, and is pushing from his diaphragm/chest to break thru the constriction. Lots of "angst" in the tone. Is it my imagination or are others hearing it, too? Brilliant choice, if that is what it is. Hey, Cassie. I definitely hear what you hear. I love your explanation. I am hoping getting more of 'UNDERNEATH' vids cuz in this one Adam's voice sounds very different from the CT one. The CT one somehow I can manage the 'softer' pain he delivered in that song. But this J'b rendition made me almost chocked and hard to breath every time I listen to it. VERY PAINFUL. His vocal in this version is just too darkly powerful (maybe that 'deeper chest resonance' u mentioned). He used this a bit in CT version but not like this one this time. He didn't even sing the 'black' in head voice (is it originally head voice?). He brought both anger & heavy pain to the audience this time. I really like this version although too much emotion to take whenever I am listening. Exactly. |
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