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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 15:51:22 GMT -5
I read an article that said many media sites are turning off comments all together because of the nastiness of the posts..... about ANY news story. A story of a lost puppy being returned to its loving family will get vile comments! Frankly, that might be the best thing to happen for all concerned. |
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 4, 2015 16:58:14 GMT -5
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Post by bamafan on Feb 4, 2015 16:59:39 GMT -5
That was quick. Adam is on instagram and liked a pic of a geometric Tshirt and another one from Sam Smith.
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 4, 2015 17:37:49 GMT -5
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Post by queenofthenight on Feb 4, 2015 18:30:18 GMT -5
Can anyone cite an example of a comment on an article from, say, two years ago that had a negative effect on Adam's career? As I said before, dust in the wind. The Internet is so stuffed with comments from people around the world--smart comments, dumb ones, mean ones, funny ones, incoherent ones, insightful ones--that anyone who is going to focus in on a particular artist and that artist's fans has an agenda anyway and WHO CARES? I just can't believe that responding to any article is going to have an impact one way or the other. Sometimes you just want to say something and that is your right. It can be fun. It can be upsetting. But one thing it's never going to be is lastingly significant. I just don't get all the dire warnings as if the whole world is waiting to pounce on Adam or his fans. You know what, you're right about comment sections probably not having a significant effect on Adam's career in the long run. If they did have an effect, that effect would be very hard (if not impossible) to measure. However, overzealous commenters with too much passion and too little tact most definitely have a negative impact on how Adam's fandom is viewed by outsiders. As a member of the said fandom, I can't help but feel some second-hand embarrassment when I read some of the ridiculous things written. To put it bluntly, it makes our fandom seem like a bunch of lunatics - the beliebers, only with at least an extra 40 years of life experience on average. In reality, these "ridiculous" things are usually written by the same five or so incredibly vocal people. Somehow, SOME WAY, they make their way to every article, every youtube video, and ever tweeter who happens to mention Adam.  As far as I know, none of those people are active members of this board, so I'm not calling out anyone here (just want to make that clear). MOST people from here who comment on things are perfectly respectful, even if they might come across as needlessly defensive at times. Hey, it happens. As Q3 said, passion is a 2 way street.  I'll give you an example: Tom & Lorenzo write posts discussing celebrity fashion. The have a Disqus-based comment system inhibited by a dedicated community of commentors who comment on pretty much everything and are all familiar with each other. This blog is very snarky. The vocal and defensive portion of Adam's fandom does not understand snark. At all. You can see where this is going. They recently wrote a post on that awful outfit Adam wore with the green hair, Skingraft bone jacket, and clashing pants. The post was in no way disrespect to Adam, it was merely snarking on his abomination of an outfit (well, I think it's an abomination, YMMV of course). Yet, TLo still prefaced their post with the following statement: "Okay, prepare yourself for the outraged fans. They’ll be here by sundown. We better lay in provisions and start a perimeter watch." Sure enough, go to the comments section and you get the usual suspects (who clearly don't belong to TLo's community) absolutely outraged over some harmless snark about a bad outfit. Sure enough, you get replies from actual TLo community members confirming what everyone's thinking: Adam Lambert's fans are absolutely insane, and not the good kind of insane. They've known this for a while now. It's just not a good look for us. Maybe the fandom's reputation isn't a huge concern for most people, and that's fine. I understand. But personally, I'd rather not be associated with such insanity by being in this fandom, and I'd rather Adam not be associated with such insanity. Like I said before, I don't think it affects his career a great deal, but I'd still rather not deal with the cringe-worthiness that comes with reading a comments section. Before I sign off on this post, I'd just like to say that I've enjoyed reading the entire discussion in this thread - good points from both sides.  |
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Post by queenofthenight on Feb 4, 2015 18:38:47 GMT -5
I love the fact that he has an actual logo/symbol for this era (and hopefully the rest of his career). Very good for establishing a recognizable brand. I'm excite! |
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Post by murly on Feb 4, 2015 18:54:52 GMT -5
I understand the secondhand embarrassment when you read an out-there comment by an Adam fan, but I don't really see why we should be concerned about "outsiders." Most of the people reading comments on an Adam article are either other Adam fans or trolls who already dislike Adam and his fan base and are looking for a fight. Who really cares?
If a few "outsiders"--people who don't already have an opinion about Adam or his fans--do happen to read a Comments section and come across some cray-cray, they will probably also read the smart comments from Adam fans and conclude that he--like every artist--has all kinds of fans, or they will just shrug and move on. If a few of them do decide that Adam fans are nuts, what possible impact is that going to have on anyone?
When I find myself getting upset about comments on an Adam article, I just remind myself that there are undoubtedly wacko comments on Taylor Swift articles or Sam Smith articles or Adele articles, and I haven't seen that any of those performers have suffered career-wise from them. I don't see those comments because I have no interest in those artists and the vast majority of people never see the comments on articles about Adam either. We're Adam-centric so we take it all more seriously than anyone else would.
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Post by bamafan on Feb 4, 2015 18:57:08 GMT -5
I love the fact that he has an actual logo/symbol for this era (and hopefully the rest of his career). Very good for establishing a recognizable brand. I'm excite! I just had to buy myself some Valentine candies and candles.....Ridiculous prices and even more ridiculous shipping per item, not order. #ItsAdamsFault |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 18:57:42 GMT -5
Can anyone cite an example of a comment on an article from, say, two years ago that had a negative effect on Adam's career? As I said before, dust in the wind. The Internet is so stuffed with comments from people around the world--smart comments, dumb ones, mean ones, funny ones, incoherent ones, insightful ones--that anyone who is going to focus in on a particular artist and that artist's fans has an agenda anyway and WHO CARES? I just can't believe that responding to any article is going to have an impact one way or the other. Sometimes you just want to say something and that is your right. It can be fun. It can be upsetting. But one thing it's never going to be is lastingly significant. I just don't get all the dire warnings as if the whole world is waiting to pounce on Adam or his fans. You know what, you're right about comment sections probably not having a significant effect on Adam's career in the long run. If they did have an effect, that effect would be very hard (if not impossible) to measure. However, overzealous commenters with too much passion and too little tact most definitely have a negative impact on how Adam's fandom is viewed by outsiders. As a member of the said fandom, I can't help but feel some second-hand embarrassment when I read some of the ridiculous things written. To put it bluntly, it makes our fandom seem like a bunch of lunatics - the beliebers, only with at least an extra 40 years of life experience on average. In reality, these "ridiculous" things are usually written by the same five or so incredibly vocal people. Somehow, SOME WAY, they make their way to every article, every youtube video, and ever tweeter who happens to mention Adam. As far as I know, none of those people are active members of this board, so I'm not calling out anyone here (just want to make that clear). MOST people from here who comment on things are perfectly respectful, even if they might come across as needlessly defensive at times. Hey, it happens. As Q3 said, passion is a 2 way street. I'll give you an example: Tom & Lorenzo write posts discussing celebrity fashion. The have a Disqus-based comment system inhibited by a dedicated community of commentors who comment on pretty much everything and are all familiar with each other. This blog is very snarky. The vocal and defensive portion of Adam's fandom does not understand snark. At all. You can see where this is going. They recently wrote a post on that awful outfit Adam wore with the green hair, Skingraft bone jacket, and clashing pants. The post was in no way disrespect to Adam, it was merely snarking on his abomination of an outfit (well, I think it's an abomination, YMMV of course). Yet, TLo still prefaced their post with the following statement: "Okay, prepare yourself for the outraged fans. They’ll be here by sundown. We better lay in provisions and start a perimeter watch." Sure enough, go to the comments section and you get the usual suspects (who clearly don't belong to TLo's community) absolutely outraged over some harmless snark about a bad outfit. Sure enough, you get replies from actual TLo community members confirming what everyone's thinking: Adam Lambert's fans are absolutely insane, and not the good kind of insane. They've known this for a while now. It's just not a good look for us. Maybe the fandom's reputation isn't a huge concern for most people, and that's fine. I understand. But personally, I'd rather not be associated with such insanity by being in this fandom, and I'd rather Adam not be associated with such insanity. Like I said before, I don't think it affects his career a great deal, but I'd still rather not deal with the cringe-worthiness that comes with reading a comments section. Before I sign off on this post, I'd just like to say that I've enjoyed reading the entire discussion in this thread - good points from both sides. DING DING DING we have a winner. Exactly on point, the OTT comments do have an effect and it is generally not a positive one. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 19:00:18 GMT -5
Eager to see what else turns up in new merchandise. Adam has a collective of super talented artist friends, he should have the coolest merchandise of any artist. This is a place where employing his friends could really make an impact. |
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