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Post by thelambertluvva on Feb 26, 2015 2:34:10 GMT -5
Trespassing was a solid album. But no song with the exception of maybe Runnin, were potential hits. That's jmo. Sounds like TOH maybe. Wow, I don't feel that way at all. Hits are made by frequent radio play. Ever notice that there are mediocre songs that are hits simply because they are played over and over again? I think pretty much all his songs, except for maybe BTIKM could have been hits given the right amount of radio play. I think many of his songs are better than what I hear on the radio. Even NCOE would have been a hit if it was released by Bruno. Remember Trespassing and Kickin' In were written by the winner of International Male Solo Artist at the Brits. |
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Post by 3ku1 on Feb 26, 2015 2:53:49 GMT -5
Remember that graph that showed his google trends, and it was as high as Idol after NYE gig. I think Queen has put his career at an all new level. WB seem to be putting all their effort into Adam as their big gun. Problem with TP was lack of vision. I mean single choices strange. I think Cuckoo could of been a hit. But lets see how TOH goes, which I have high hopes for.
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Post by thelambertluvva on Feb 26, 2015 3:12:26 GMT -5
Remember that graph that showed his google trends, and it was as high as Idol after NYE gig. I think Queen has put his career at an all new level. WB seem to be putting all their effort into Adam as their big gun. Problem with TP was lack of vision. I mean single choices strange. I think Cuckoo could of been a hit. But lets see how TOH goes, which I have high hopes for. Do you know how that Google Trends graph was generated? I typed in Adam Lambert and didn't see a graph like that at all. www.google.com/trends/explore#q=adam%20lambert |
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Post by talon on Feb 26, 2015 3:25:11 GMT -5
I think it is certain to be different. Adam has not been standing still for over 3 years. He has evolved. Adam: "It's very different than the Queen music. It's definitely a pop album with a lot of R&B, house music influences. But the songwriting is timeless." 1. "It's very different than the Queen music." My interpretation is no rock (Runnin'), no funk (Trespassing -- AOBTD's baseline), no big power ballads. >> I also know there will be no leftover tracks written for other artists (NL, BTIKM, NCOE). 2. "It's definitely a pop album with a lot of R&B, house music influences." There is almost no R&B influence in FYE or Trespassing. This is new. The only track on Trespassing that really incorporates house music influences is "Shady" but that is not a mainstream contemporary pop song -- although it is one of my favorite tracks. Whatever they came up with, I think it will have some twist. 3. "But the songwriting is timeless." This is different than Trespassing which was more about the moment in time. This statement and the amount of time, effort and focus he took on the songwriting, the two month songwriting camp, give me the most optimism that this will be an album and not a playlist of songs spanning genres with a loose connection one to another. 4. This is apparently the most important release for WBM for the Summer. That means they must believe it is a mainstream, big market album. Trespassing was not a mainstream album stylistically or thematically. 5. Max Martin is the Executive Producer. All in, I do not think this will be Trespassing 2.0. I for one am very happy and expected both the R&B (with an emphasis on the blues) and House influences. The signs were there back in late 2013 -- and they keep popping up. I don't disagree with those sentiments - what I worry more though is about sound - his voice being buried and it doesn't matter what kind of music it is - computery music < real instruments. Trespassing seemed to lean heavily on the former. Talon I truly appreciate your input to Adamtopia. You have shared so much about Queen and the Queen catalog with us and brought us a Queen fans perspective that better helps us understand some things in a very respectful way. Thank you!   :D Thanks and You're welcome! Personally, I don't think the QAL tour was to make Adam fans of Queen fans! I mean, I know Brian and Roger like Adam but I don't think they are devoting more than a year of their lives to promote Adam. I think they wanted to tour for the reasons they said:1) People want to hear their iconic songs played by them 2) The partnership with Adam is A Kind Of Magic! For Adam and his team, I think it is 3 fold: 1) Adam loves the partnership also. 2) Adam is making enough money to afford him some independence to pursue what he wants. 3) It is exposing him to hundreds of thousands of people who had no idea who he was! Will they preorder his album, sight unseen as most of us will do? I doubt it! Will they give it a listen & consider it? Hopefully! Oh I didn't mean to imply that QAL tour was done for that reason. I agree it was mostly that Brian and Roger wanted to get out there and play. They found a voice worthy of them doing so with and Adam enjoyed it and was into the idea! I merely was stating that I saw over the course of the tour that many people were saying how Adam was gaining all sorts of new fans from this tour...and I was merely commenting on if those people would stay fans when he was away from Queen. If it's music like what is on Trespassing - I'm doubtful. I want to stress that I don't think that necessarily matters to Adam and certainly not WE as I'm sure they are after a different demo. I didn't expect a rock album. I just was hoping for more musicianship...giving Adam a real bed to lay his voice down on so to speak. Much like people have said it might be tough for him to do shows without the quality of musician he has at his back now...a set of real studio musicians would benefit him more than a lot of the synthesized stuff...even moreso if he got a set of studio musicians to play throughout (for the most part).... Regarding e., I don't see any problem with praising Adam or Freddie separately. What I have issue is the comparisons. Why compare? Quite honestly - for someone seeing a show like this for the first time there is no way NOT to compare. It's not like the comparisons are coming after Adam is doing a solo show with his music. Adam is singing Freddie's songs with Freddie's bandmates (and yes also B,R,and J's) so especially when someone did it so well for so long and has reached legendary status - comparisons are going to happen. Oh I think Queen fans have the same problem - that I will agree with. It didn't hurt my feelings at all though. BUT I honestly think people should be free to voice that opinion. I think Freddie is better than Adam. *shrug* I know people here think Adam is better than Freddie. *shrug* It's just personal opinion. It doesn't make their viewpoint any less valid in my eyes at least! Well there are certainly trolls from Queen fandom...and a few from Glamberts side as well. I agree that people saying he can't sing are obviously talking shit without any basis in fact. And hell yes, I've been to 3 shows and I think I'm definitely a Queen fan  Although I do think some people on QZ/QOL should be taken with a grain of salt. They exaggerate and do so for humor's sake. Most if you seriously talk to them will tell you Adam can sing but they don't approve of him as a choice for whatever reason and it is their right to do so. The exaggeration, etc. though is childish but just meant to push buttons. They do it to get a rise out of Glamberts and they usually end up succeeding. Is it right. No. I just shake my head and laugh at it though because at the end of the day it really doesn't matter. It's not going to change Brian and Roger's mind, it's not hurting sales on the tour obviously and I think Adam (or Brian and Roger) couldn't care less about a few trolls lobbing stupidity. |
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Post by 3ku1 on Feb 26, 2015 3:45:04 GMT -5
Of course If songs get frequent radio play they well become hits. I just don't think Trespassing really reflected Adam. I mean he has a rock leaning voice. So I guess their was just too much competition in that genre. The whole Dance thing. I am excited actually by the RNB influences. Songs like we found love, Adams vocals be great on that. But hope its pop/rock overall. That's his niche.
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Post by rpeura on Feb 26, 2015 7:11:57 GMT -5
Talon I truly appreciate your input to Adamtopia. You have shared so much about Queen and the Queen catalog with us and brought us a Queen fans perspective that better helps us understand some things in a very respectful way. Thank you!  THAK YOU TALON |
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Post by red panda on Feb 26, 2015 8:25:19 GMT -5
Talon, thank you so much for your reasoned responses. You, to my mind, are fair, balanced and articulate. I have found you to present your opinions clearly as opinions, and to deal with responses in a calm and patient manner. You stay true to your Freddie love, yet are not strident or over bearing, IMO. I appreciate your presence on this board more than I can say. I love the background we get about Queen, their inner workings, their history. I agree with so much of what you say, but most of all I appreciate the tone and tenor of your posts. For me, this board would be less without you. Thank you.  |
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Post by 4EverAdam on Feb 26, 2015 9:45:10 GMT -5
Talon, thank you so much for your reasoned responses. You, to my mind, are fair, balanced and articulate. I have found you to present your opinions clearly as opinions, and to deal with responses in a calm and patient manner. You stay true to your Freddie love, yet are not strident or over bearing, IMO. I appreciate your presence on this board more than I can say. I love the background we get about Queen, their inner workings, their history. I agree with so much of what you say, but most of all I appreciate the tone and tenor of your posts. For me, this board would be less without you. Thank you. Yes^^^ Could not have found better words. Thank You Talon. As Adam said, they are not finished yet so hope you will be staying with us and continue to share with us. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 9:46:00 GMT -5
Pretty sure Adam and his team have no expectations that the hardcore Queen fans are going to run out and buy TOH. To his management, his PR group and his label, this is all about the exposure. How much easier will it now be to get him on a magazine cover or on the telly in the UK. You know.... the guy that sang a few songs with Queen on the BBC New Years Eve gig and was then the most searched name in the UK for 72 hours after..... yeah that one........ the guy that can no longer take the Tube without being mobbed.....yeah that one!  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 9:51:35 GMT -5
Of course If songs get frequent radio play they well become hits. I just don't think Trespassing really reflected Adam. I mean he has a rock leaning voice. So I guess their was just too much competition in that genre. The whole Dance thing. I am excited actually by the RNB influences. Songs like we found love, Adams vocals be great on that. But hope its pop/rock overall. That's his niche. LOL! An album that Adam executive produced and wrote all but 3 of 17 songs on "Doesn't reflect Adam?!" What are you talking about? There isn't TOO much competition in the rock genre! For the most part, it doesn't get played on radio here! NOT GONNA HAPPEN!! You follow Adam on twitter. Do you see the artists and songs he tweets about? When's the last time he loved a rock song? |
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Although I do think some people on QZ/QOL should be taken with a grain of salt. They exaggerate and do so for humor's sake. Most if you seriously talk to them will tell you Adam can sing but they don't approve of him as a choice for whatever reason and it is their right to do so. The exaggeration, etc. though is childish but just meant to push buttons. They do it to get a rise out of Glamberts and they usually end up succeeding. Is it right. No. I just shake my head and laugh at it though because at the end of the day it really doesn't matter. It's not going to change Brian and Roger's mind, it's not hurting sales on the tour obviously and I think Adam (or Brian and Roger) couldn't care less about a few trolls lobbing stupidity.
