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Post by melliemom on May 13, 2015 16:47:10 GMT -5
Sorry i put this up please remove... No problem with posting it at all. I just wanted to comment on it. Aside from the sales forecast portion, it is just my opinion. I think it is worthy of discussing. *** Sales forecasting for me is like a C#5 for Cassie. If is something that I am very passionate about. It is also a professional assessment and not an opinion. It is absolute, quantifiable and provable. Ok.. I thought you were upset with me..thanks for explaining.. |
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Post by Q3 on May 13, 2015 16:49:58 GMT -5
Sorry i put this up please remove...I didn't think i was doing something wrong Why are you apologizing, millimom? It's a very informative blog post regardless of whether the blogger has some sort of a connection to Adam's team. IMO she does, but YMMV... No issue with this being posted here. If there was an issue, I would have not responded to it. |
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Post by needacoke on May 13, 2015 17:00:55 GMT -5
Why didnt't I know Adam back then??? What I would give to be in that audience! The Idol tour was wild for Adam -- and the fans were insane! It is something I have not thought about for a long time. I am glad we have some video but I wish we had more. It was particularly wild as the tour moved across the Southeastern US which is where Idol was most popular and Adam seemed most unleashed! I went to the after parties in Memphis and Atlanta. I was embarrassed for the other Idols. They were pretty much just standing around with very few fans to talk to. The line to meet Adam was unbelievable! After I met Adam, I walked over and talked to Kris and several others for a few minutes. There was no line at all. I just walked right up to them. Fans were standing in line to see Adam during the entire after party. Ray stayed right by Adam the whole time. The other Idols were unattended. |
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Post by Q3 on May 13, 2015 17:13:16 GMT -5
No problem with posting it at all. I just wanted to comment on it. Aside from the sales forecast portion, it is just my opinion. I think it is worthy of discussing. *** Sales forecasting for me is like a C#5 for Cassie. If is something that I am very passionate about. It is also a professional assessment and not an opinion. It is absolute, quantifiable and provable. Ok.. I thought you were upset with me..thanks for explaining.. Of course not. I just disagreed with something in the blog post that you linked to. *** And I wanted to make it clear that no fans have access to the long range promo plan for GT and TOH. I have enough contacts to be sure of that. I also know that everything related to Adam and his promotion is being very, very tightly held and is not being shared with any fans or media. |
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Post by lambertmusic411 on May 13, 2015 17:17:28 GMT -5
Just popped in ... Some of you may have already seen this and perhaps even more of you don’t need the reassurance/explanations that others online do.  But I thought I would still post it. requestadamlambert.com/2015/05/13/emphasizing-the-great-start-for-ghost-town/I’m very happy that there are no meet and greets in Chicago. Securing radio play at these big market leader stations is too important right now to risk it. Many of these stations are more rhythmic leaning and their demographic skews even younger. This is not meant to offend anyone, it’s just the reality. Going forward, I would expect to see Adam be on a "tight schedule” to keep him on the interview-only track. That really couldn’t be done as much in his home state and with stations that jumped on “Ghost Town” out of the gate and were playing it a lot. In case anyone is wondering, I have no specific insights on the meet & greets; just a very brief exchange. But this isn’t rocket science to see what happened and why things changed (and needed to). Q3 is right that Warner is focused on album awareness and sales for the near term in tandem with radio play, which will then lead to more single sales. While I’m expecting Adam’s spins to keep increasing, I’m not expecting his chart position to increase much in the very near term on either radio chart and it may even backslide. There are too many radio darlings with releases the next two weeks that will likely pass him on the charts, but “Ghost Town” should pass a few songs itself. The more important thing that I’m sure you all know is that the spin total for the week keeps increasing! It will get there! Like I concluded today’s post: It’s a marathon and not a sprint. |
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Post by lambertmusic411 on May 13, 2015 17:28:24 GMT -5
Just looked back to see Q3 diminishing my site and information. Q3, you are very wrong about me not having inside information on some things, which has been proven true on a couple occasions. Surely you can see that.
Regardless, my only goal is to help spread information that will further Adam's goal of having a major radio hit. That's the only reason why I started posting here and I would think that seeing Adam achieve that goal is what we all want.
I respect that this is your board and do not want any drama. The comments just rubbed me the wrong way.
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Post by Q3 on May 13, 2015 17:37:57 GMT -5
The Idol tour was wild for Adam -- and the fans were insane! It is something I have not thought about for a long time. I am glad we have some video but I wish we had more. It was particularly wild as the tour moved across the Southeastern US which is where Idol was most popular and Adam seemed most unleashed! I went to the after parties in Memphis and Atlanta. I was embarrassed for the other Idols. They were pretty much just standing around with very few fans to talk to. The line to meet Adam was unbelievable! After I met Adam, I walked over and talked to Kris and several others for a few minutes. There was no line at all. I just walked right up to them. Fans were standing in line to see Adam during the entire after party. Ray stayed right by Adam the whole time. The other Idols were unattended. Remember his gift box vs. the other Idols? (He had like 10x everyone put together.) And all the bras that were thrown at Adam that were stapled to the underside of the stage? There is NO GOOD VIDEO from Idol's Live Memphis. And very few photos. We were not very organized back then. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 17:41:40 GMT -5
Q3- "There is probably no long-range promotional plan is because a launch like this is usually flexible and less set then you might ever imagine. There is usually a conceptual plan, a kick off strategy, a few contingencies, a few set promotional events and the rest is adjusted and built based on market results/response. The music business move quickly and is opportunistic." This caught my eye and I tend to agree. I've always been sceptical about the notion (fairly widespread at the beginning of the journey) that there's a detailed/hard plan in place and we can sit back and watch it deliver - a myriad of assumptions would have to be built in & I doubt it would survive first contact with reality. It's about having a general approach and being nimble in the face of events. In a similar vein, I'm always surprised when I see it implied that the label/management team has a reliable handle on radio's behaviour (play it more, now hold back play it less, speed it up again) beyond a few short term promo deals - if only. The single will have to be worked like any of its predecessors, not least because nothing sells an album like a solid hit single or three. Just my opinion and subject to change as events unfold  |
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Post by Q3 on May 13, 2015 17:56:51 GMT -5
Just looked back to see Q3 diminishing my site and information. Q3, you are very wrong about me not having inside information on some things, which has been proven true on a couple occasions. Surely you can see that. Regardless, my only goal is to help spread information that will further Adam's goal of having a major radio hit. That's the only reason why I started posting here and I would think that seeing Adam achieve that goal is what we all want. I respect that this is your board and do not want any drama. The comments just rubbed me the wrong way. I am not diminishing your site, but if you post things publicly than people (including me) have the right to disagree with what you post. I disagreed with your characterization of the PROBABLE role of TV in this promotion but clearly stated I have no specific knowledge of Adam's plans. I also responded to a post on this forum about this specific blog post containing "inside information". You did not make that claim in your post -- it was a reader's interpretation. I share your goal of wanting to support Adam and will do what I can do to support what his team wants to have done. Adam and Shoshanna have clearly stated on a number of occasions that when they want fans to do something, they will let fans know that. I will continue to repeat that over, and over, and over again until either Adam or Shoshanna publicly says something different. Regarding any fan having inside info -- yes, even I get bits. But no fan know the long range promotional plan -- or has any deep access. This is not like the old RCA days. |
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Post by Q3 on May 13, 2015 18:14:31 GMT -5
Q3- "There is probably no long-range promotional plan is because a launch like this is usually flexible and less set then you might ever imagine. There is usually a conceptual plan, a kick off strategy, a few contingencies, a few set promotional events and the rest is adjusted and built based on market results/response. The music business move quickly and is opportunistic." This caught my eye and I tend to agree. I've always been sceptical about the notion (fairly widespread at the beginning of the journey) that there's a detailed/hard plan in place and we can sit back and watch it deliver - a myriad of assumptions would have to be built in & I doubt it would survive first contact with reality. It's about having a general approach and being nimble in the face of events. In a similar vein, I'm always surprised when I see it implied that the label/management team has a reliable handle on radio's behaviour (play it more, now hold back play it less, speed it up again) beyond a few short term promo deals - if only. The single will have to be worked like any of its predecessors, not least because nothing sells an album like a solid hit single or three. Just my opinion and subject to change as events unfold Music promotions are almost always adjusted as the results come in. And many things are contingent on other events. On a major project like TOH, a label will plan on at least 2 singles. If the first one fails they will switch to #2 pretty quickly. If #1 is a big hit, they will promote #2 even more and if #2 is a hit, move on to #3. And so on. A huge album will have 5 singles. The radio promos tend to be developed based on what deals can be constructed. So a PD likes a song, agrees to be an early supporter, and they get an interview and a concert appearance. Then if the song gets traction, a station that is slower to add may get a contest. If a song is hot on the radio, it is easier to book quality TV appearances. If a retailer gets a lot of pre-orders for an album, they stock more in store. If an album is #1, it is easier to get radio airplay and promo TV appearances. A tour is contingent on selling music. "Trespassing" did not sell enough to justify a tour. FYE did. Hopefully, TOH will exceed "Trespassing" and we get a tour. Etc. Success breeds success. It is opportunistic. |
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But I thought I would still post it.