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Post by 4EverAdam on May 16, 2015 15:30:06 GMT -5
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Post by 4EverAdam on May 16, 2015 15:31:38 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on May 16, 2015 15:38:37 GMT -5
The UK press appears to be designed to both leverage the Q+AL awareness while repositioning Adam as a current artist. ..... I'm a long term follower/listener of Capital and have been watching them as closely as I can, I've also casually requested GT a couple of times and watched other listeners (responsibly) request it - there seems to be no goodwill there at all unfortunately. Apart from that early GT review article they Tweeted out (hit fodder?), I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that they're interested. It may exist, but I haven't seen it. Anyway, it's moot for now given that Shosh says no radio until mid-June. Yes, all we can do is wait and see. On Capital, they have posted GT teaser and video -- and tweeted about them. Since the song has not even been serviced to UK radio, there is not much else they can go. I was thinking of the Tove Lo on-air interview....just happened May 11th.....where she talked a lot about working with Adam and the duet. Regarding requesting GT, since it is clearly not on any playlist, really unlikely to play it. Beyond unlikely, I would bet Capital London has not played a track "they don't have" once in 2015. **** It was easy to see the path in the US for Adam. They have to get US radio on board. They are making great progress. It will not be easy but so far, so good. And it is going to require a lot of attention. >> The US is likely to generate 60% of Adam's/WBR revenue and has to be the first priority. Plus, a US artist who fails to sell here, usually does poorly in the rest of the world. US success give region managers the support to make local investments needed for international promo. It is hard for me to see a path in the UK for Adam -- at least with "Ghost Town". I can see how he would have a better shot with the Tove Lo collab depending what it sounds like. |
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Post by Q3 on May 16, 2015 15:42:16 GMT -5
Who knows but my best guess is that UK radio didn't come on board as expected/hoped/planned around the end of that rather impressive UK press campaign (despite the QAL factor). I think I've said before, miles of miles of ink followed by a long period of absolutely nothing is unlikely to be deliberate. You're quite right, the almost inevitable fate of a single going for sales in the UK without preceding radio play is a short, sharp showing when the fans buy then a horrible crash - at that point radio sees the song as a flop, feels vindicated and steps over it. These problems are all well known/foreseeable though, so presumably the team, at least initially, believed that it had them covered. Anyway, we seem to have moved on to plan B - whatever that might be. Your 'wild possibility' of a different lead single in the UK doesn't actually seem that wild to me , especially if GT takes some time to make an impact in the US. I guess I missed the tweets from Shosh re any changes in UK roll out schedule. What are the changes? Why are we talking "plan B"? Why the assumption of "UK radio not on board"? No one knows why the schedule was changed. People are speculating. We know that GT will not be released for sale in the UK on June 7. We know the album will be released on June 15 as planned. We know GT go to radio mid-June... There are a lot of tweets -- in the thread already. Here is the critical one. I think this is related to when Adam is going to be in the UK which he said will be in June. ETA: Since he is in NYC on June 19th, seems like UK, France and Germany may be after that? I would think they would have him on US TV for at least one other performance and/or interview album release week. |
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Post by pi on May 16, 2015 15:51:22 GMT -5
I'm a long term follower/listener of Capital and have been watching them as closely as I can, I've also casually requested GT a couple of times and watched other listeners (responsibly) request it - there seems to be no goodwill there at all unfortunately. Apart from that early GT review article they Tweeted out (hit fodder?), I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that they're interested. It may exist, but I haven't seen it. Anyway, it's moot for now given that Shosh says no radio until mid-June. . I can see how he would have a better shot with the Tove Lo collab depending what it sounds like. Can you explain why you think GT won't work in the UK? |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 15:58:49 GMT -5
I'm a long term follower/listener of Capital and have been watching them as closely as I can, I've also casually requested GT a couple of times and watched other listeners (responsibly) request it - there seems to be no goodwill there at all unfortunately. Apart from that early GT review article they Tweeted out (hit fodder?), I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that they're interested. It may exist, but I haven't seen it. Anyway, it's moot for now given that Shosh says no radio until mid-June. Yes, all we can do is wait and see. On Capital, they have posted GT teaser and video -- and tweeted about them. Since the song has not even been serviced to UK radio, there is not much else they can go. I was thinking of the Tove Lo on-air interview....just happened May 11th.....where she talked a lot about working with Adam and the duet. Regarding requesting GT, since it is clearly not on any playlist, really unlikely to play it. Beyond unlikely, I would bet Capital London has not played a track "they don't have" once in 2015. **** It was easy to see the path in the US for Adam. They have to get US radio on board. They are making great progress. It will not be easy but so far, so good. And it is going to require a lot of attention. >> The US is likely to generate 60% of Adam's/WBR revenue and has to be the first priority. Plus, a US artist who fails to sell here, usually does poorly in the rest of the world. US success give region managers the support to make local investments needed for international promo. It is hard for me to see a path in the UK for Adam -- at least with "Ghost Town". I can see how he would have a better shot with the Tove Lo collab depending what it sounds like. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'serviced to radio' in this context but, as far as I know, it was made available for radio play in the UK some time ago as per Shosh's early tweets to UK fans. Certainly I know of a handful of local radio stations which have been playing it, most notably one in Newcastle which had it as their "song of the week" recently - I'm their star listener  ETA: At no point, as far as I know, did Capital say that they didn't have GT. Shosh told UK fans right back at the beginning that GT would be available for radio play between the world release date and the UK sales date. UK fans have been requesting GT from radio stations in good faith and they've been scouring playlists waiting for GT to pop up. . |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 16:23:53 GMT -5
Shosh said GT is still the single! I do NOT want Adam's 2nd single to be the Tove Lo collab! Another solo before that one, please!!
Betting the change is just for logistics. I was having trouble figuring out how in the world Adam would be doing promo here for the album & there for the single at about the same time. Impossible!
Considering the sound for GT came from what Adam was hearing in the UK, I doubt there is a problem that is song specific. Maybe the elitist attitude of UK radio is the problem, but IMO, not the song.
The best anyone here can do is everything we can to make it big here. If it is big here, they will play it eventually. I have seen songs get released there 6 months after their US release!! Crazy but true!
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Post by rihannsu on May 16, 2015 16:27:41 GMT -5
Yes, all we can do is wait and see. On Capital, they have posted GT teaser and video -- and tweeted about them. Since the song has not even been serviced to UK radio, there is not much else they can go. I was thinking of the Tove Lo on-air interview....just happened May 11th.....where she talked a lot about working with Adam and the duet. Regarding requesting GT, since it is clearly not on any playlist, really unlikely to play it. Beyond unlikely, I would bet Capital London has not played a track "they don't have" once in 2015. **** It was easy to see the path in the US for Adam. They have to get US radio on board. They are making great progress. It will not be easy but so far, so good. And it is going to require a lot of attention. >> The US is likely to generate 60% of Adam's/WBR revenue and has to be the first priority. Plus, a US artist who fails to sell here, usually does poorly in the rest of the world. US success give region managers the support to make local investments needed for international promo. It is hard for me to see a path in the UK for Adam -- at least with "Ghost Town". I can see how he would have a better shot with the Tove Lo collab depending what it sounds like. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'serviced to radio' in this context but, as far as I know, it was made available for radio play in the UK some time ago as per Shosh's early tweets to UK fans. Certainly I know of a handful of local radio stations which have been playing it, most notably one in Newcastle which had it as their "song of the week" recently - I'm their star listener . I would think it is comparable to the impact dates that we have in the US. A station can play or even add songs before the "impact" date but the date sets a target that the label wants radio to shoot for. Admittedly I don't know if the UK uses similar terminology but they could have in fact made the track available but not set an impact or target date yet. Even in the US a lot of times as soon as radio knows what is planned as a single some stations may go ahead and play it even before any impact date is set. I am much happier knowing they are adjusting plans as they go rather than have them follow an initial plan even when it seems not to be coming together. Shoshanna's company seems to have a very good relationship with Capital as a lot of their clients have had roll outs heavily involving Capital so it could be that their feedback showed it would be best to hold off until Adam could actually get over there for promo. We will never know what led up to the change but a change in strategy is not always about negativity but sometimes is due to maximizing potential. If they are confident that Capital is on board whenever they are ready to go then it makes sense to make that work in their favor and possibly it was better to wait. ETA: Also isn't there a huge shake up going on with Radio 1 right now? I thought I read the head programming guy left and I know that Zane Lowe left BBC and a whole bunch of people followed him. Maybe they decided they wanted to wait until the dust settles a little. |
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Post by houselady on May 16, 2015 16:33:19 GMT -5
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Post by lilly on May 16, 2015 16:36:25 GMT -5
ahh gid auld newcastle ,,went tae school there ,, they diddna teach me very much  uk radio ,, i remember (cos i wis involved ) a huge fan push tae get BTIKM intae the charts ,as apparently bbc radio would add songs that achieved a top 20 place ,we got BTIKM to 17 ,they did not add in my head i have this info ,and as there is a lot of rubbish in ma heed ,this info could be rubbish , bbc radio plays a minimum of 60% british artists , i think the 40% others have to be hits in the us before they are played here i did go looking for where i read this ,cant find it , they also scorn older artists eg robbie williams /maddona ,, as being irrelevant to their listeners (radio 1) adam will struggle for radio 1 ,, he is american ,, came from idol ,(there is also the case that our airwaves are poluted by our own reality stars) and he is over 30 if GT is to be a hit here he needs radio 1 also please remember bbc radio is state owned ,and funded , is not advertising driven ,,no adverts ,non commercial ,
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