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Post by kapsiz on May 11, 2011 3:27:15 GMT -5
Q3 - Adam did go see Uh Huh Her! (Camila Grey)! JS! I'm sure Adam supports Monte but maybe doesn't want to detract from Monte's gig by physically being there! (Adam can go nowhere incognito, anymore! yea & nay, about that) NoAngel said it well! See her tweet regarding that. *torn* :-/
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Post by hoopla1 on May 11, 2011 3:29:26 GMT -5
LOL, SEOULMATE AT YOUR AWESOME GRAPHICS! Still keeping the troops entertained, I see! JFC, how I miss this place!
WARNING: TL;DR My insomnia's back with a vengeance tonight and I haven't talked to anyone about Adam for so long, my words runneth over. PLEASE feel free to scroll!
RE: LISA RANT So what was it all about? Adam somehow changed by fame and not showing Monte proper loyalty--assuming she WASN'T talking about MBolton. I hope she was, but I don't think so. And even if that's so—and it's a big old case of BSC Glamberts "assuming"--referring to Adam as "his majesty"? Hard to hear tone on twitter, but sounds sarcastic to me.
-A not going to M's gigs? First, ITA that it seems impossible A wouldn't distract from Monte's performance--but how big was Alisan's (Canyons) gig? TyTaylor's (Vintage Trouble)? Then again, how many fans of THOSE bands are AFL devotees? I just don’t know for sure, but I really do think most of Monte's ARE. Honestly, I don't even know the name of "Monte's band."
- A not promoting M enough on twitter? TBH, IIRC Adam has only tweeted about one Monte gig and when I read it, it seemed much less enthusiastic than A's tweets about other musicians. It caused me to wonder momentarily if things were cool between them.
-A not writing with M/not using band in recording sessions? Well, even though Monte worked for Madonna (POP), I didn't KNOW of Monte prior to Adam (also POP) because Prong, etc. is not my cuppa. Totally admire Monte's skills, but have never for a moment thought he and Adam have the same goals musically. If this is case I can see M being disappointed, but also being mature enough to know that friendship should NOT alter A's own artistic vision.
-A not using Monte on his festival dates? I can see where this would be exceedingly painful for Monte—truly. But Lisa said that whatever it is that spurred her disappointment, Monte is fine with it. Maybe she should take a hint from her husband's attitude. It's a business. ADAM's business. If this IS the case, it must have been a hella tough decision for Adam, because I DO believe he is a good friend.
-A saying no to CV songs in Russia? Not out of the realm of possibility, but that'd be a TRUE WTF?!? Adam seems determined NOT to go backwards, much as I would personally like for him to recreate a live performance of every song he's ever sung AND COVER ALL MY FAVS! I DO like some of the CV songs. And I know Monte hinted at one time they might someday be recorded. But knowing Adam, it ain't happening—ever.
-And here's a question for ya—if M just got a long-term gig at VR, how COULD he go to the festivals? Or did he accept this gig because he wasn't asked to go? In which case, wouldn't Lisa be happy he's not leaving home again?
I followed Lisa for about two minutes, right before her other rant about Monte having fun touring while she stayed home with the kids. That was a WTF moment for me, but no biggie, just unfollowed. She reminded me of LP's fiancé and sounded shrewish to me. She CHOSE to marry a MUSICIAN FFS. They CHOSE to have four kids. Life's tough.
I like Monte, and when the subject of who we want to stay in Adam's band came up in a thread long ago, seems like he's been hands down the one member everyone hopes sticks with Adam. But Tommy's always been the one I find irreplaceable. I think Monte is a really good guitarist—but I do not think his preferred style of music fits Adam's at all, and no other guitarist will ever be able to give fan service/loving friendship the way Tommy has IMO.
Also, quite frankly, I was at the buses for 4/5 of the GNT's I went to, and Monte WAS friendly three of those times, but NOT as much as other band members. And one time, he was truly rude to a Tommy fan (perhaps some would think for good reason—tired of the "give this to Tommy" requests). So I've never LOVED Monte—just been very happy that Adam seems to maintain friendships and be loyal.
Naturally, Monte wants to "make it." He's a TOP, too, as anyone who has ever seen him interviewed must realize. He MUST feel just a twinge of natural human envy towards Adam. It must freak him out to know so many of his fans follow him because of A, but I do believe many of them genuinely like him for himself…because he's TALENTED. But I didn't/won't buy his CD. I would buy Cam's. I would buy Scarlett's. I just like their music better. And whereas M's talented, Adam is simply EXCEPTIONAL. It will all work out the way it's supposed to. I "trust" that it will, because I KNOW Adam operates from a place of love. I wish the best for all of his friends and family. But they have benefitted from having A's spotlight turned on THEIR talents--which is wonderful. (With a small side of not-so-wonderful, just like Adam owing AI for the platform that intro'd him to the world, with the small downside that entails.) I don't think this is a bad thing. None of them have taken advantage of anyone. IMO, why would anyone give anything to/buy anything from one of his friends just because of their association? So I don’t see it as anyone riding on Adam's coattails. Just being smart and taking advantage of opportunities.
STILL, ADAM GETS TO DRAW THE LINE (that fine, hard line, poor bb) where his own art is concerned. Adam is the man I stan, and though I'd be perfectly happy for EXACT same lineup for Tour #2, I will always be #TEAMADAMCAN(ANDWILL)DOWHATEVERTHEFUCKHEWANTS!
And LOL at us for all the theories! All I know for certain is we will NEVER know what really went down or all the particulars of why/when/how--because for all of his supposed lack of filter and #realness, Adam is SMART. He will not overshare anything ever except his extensive knowledge of the Urban Dictionary! ;D
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Post by carla on May 11, 2011 3:31:46 GMT -5
Woah - this drama was not what I hoped to get this morning! : Sorry, but what Lisa Pittman did on a public forum was incredibly immature and irresponsible and won't do her husband any favour. Same goes with Mr Warren W., who also leaked information some days ago, which was not his business. Everyone in Adams band has profited from him and his loyal fans - makes me really appreciate Cam with her band who has a carreer of her own and is not riding on Adams coattails. I am here for Adam, he has my loyality and love. I was so happy for him - he found love and is working on his new album with great people - he really does not need this bulls***. *Rant over*
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Post by gelly14 on May 11, 2011 3:32:07 GMT -5
I'm still reading the thread and I'm an hour late for work but......
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Post by Catzmadam on May 11, 2011 3:32:21 GMT -5
Hmmmm, either none of the band were invited to do this gig, so he has no idea what's going on.....or, the entire band is PO'ed at Adam and have opted not to go......or, next wild guess???? I agree scorpio, but then there is this tweet - so confuzzled RN. Don't like discord in the immediate glamily. :-/ and it's been a day of weirdness. WARNWILLIS Warren Willis @ @glitzntheglam yes... but my inny has become an outty, so thats why i have to have surgery and am missing russia Okie dokie, I need to step...away...from...the...computer...NOW! Have spent the entire day 'resting' on the couch and obsessing playing in Adamland - but need food and then sweet beddie byes. {{{HUGS}}} Kapsiz and meows to you too *purrrrrrrs loudly*
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Post by outlawbooster on May 11, 2011 3:40:51 GMT -5
Playing devil's advocate again but I'm sure that with Adam's new relationship, he no longer needs his friends like he used to. The comment about the mother's day buffet with mom, the Cherrys & Bloody Mary's indicates that he just doesn't want to hang with them like he used to...And with all indication from Lisa who made comments before about not being included in things like they used to, him not coming to the house, etc., they probably already knew that he was doing these gigs without the band & the 2nd album. Plus his not coming to Monte's gigs must of been the frosting on the cake for her. I'm just praying that the hunting nasty wasn't directed at Lisa, that would be unforgivable to Monte. I really hope I'm totally wrong about this, the GNT wouldn't have been the same without all the hard work of all the troupe!
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Post by Catzmadam on May 11, 2011 3:44:15 GMT -5
Oh DG Seoulmate - you are simply priceless I'm opting for this one right now... Zen *Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm* Hoopla - absolute WORD to every frigging word of your post #insomniabecomesyou
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Post by heathers on May 11, 2011 4:01:35 GMT -5
I haven't had a chance to check what all this was about until now and came here to read the thread this morning as twitter from last night was very confusing.
Went to check Lisa's twitter page and it isn't there - or is it just me who doesn't know how to find it?
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Post by kapsiz on May 11, 2011 4:01:41 GMT -5
I'm thinking Lisa Pittman had some venting to do (sorry it seemed targeted at Adam) & I'm giving her "the benefit of the doubt"! Her husband was gone for the better part of a year, promoting Adam's album + then the tour started! She has 2 little one's who demand ALL of her attention + she's pregnant w/TWINS! And then..... she has 4 - Daddy still not at home! When tour ends, daddy is still not at home so much cuz he's playing gigs (got 4 kids to support)! But maybe she's thinking Adam's Celebrity status could boost Monte's career and Adam showing up at one of Monte's gigs, would be a good thing! (I still think Adam showing up would = Adam press not Monte press) :-/
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Post by aloha on May 11, 2011 4:04:56 GMT -5
Playing devil's advocate again but I'm sure that with Adam's new relationship, he no longer needs his friends like he used to. The comment about the mother's day buffet with mom, the Cherrys & Bloody Mary's indicates that he just doesn't want to hang with them like he used to...And with all indication from Lisa who made comments before about not being included in things like they used to, him not coming to the house, etc., they probably already knew that he was doing these gigs without the band & the 2nd album. Plus his not coming to Monte's gigs must of been the frosting on the cake for her. I'm just praying that the hunting nasty wasn't directed at Lisa, that would be unforgivable to Monte. I really hope I'm totally wrong about this, the GNT wouldn't have been the same without all the hard work of all the troupe! I wonder why you would put it this way-- "he no longer needs his friends like he used to." Everything I've read about Adam, his interviews, his actions toward his friends and family, even toward his fans-- points to a man who values love, friendship and treats people with respect. He doesn't throw his clothes away... somehow I doubt he'd summarily discard his friends. A Mothers Day brunch with his boyfriend, his mother and his old friends the Cherrys indicates nothing more than a desire to spend quality time with people he loves. It does NOT indicate "that he just doesn't want to hang with them (the Pittmans) like he used to." That is quite a leap, and totally unsubstantiated. As for "praying that the hunting nasty wasn't directed at Lisa..." -- Really? I've been a fan of Adam's for two years and one of the things I most admire about him is that he rarely says a nasty word about anyone unless they attack him first. He's leveled honest criticism but never, as far as I know, resorted to name calling and nastiness, and especially not on Twitter. And sure, Glam Nation wouldn't have been the same without the hard work of everyone involved, but let's not forget the reason they were all there. Adam. His hard work. His vision. His generosity in hiring friends to fill important positions. He brought them all along for the ride, and it was glorious. I don't hope you're wrong about your assumptions. I know you're wrong.
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