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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2011 23:10:31 GMT -5
Did you all realize that IIHY has over 17 million viewss on VEVO? WOW!
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Post by SusieFierce on Feb 18, 2011 23:13:06 GMT -5
Welcome birdieeve and glad you have come out to play. I am in your same boat many a time. Others are quick to post and they share much of the same feelings that I do. Seems redundant to keep repeating but with Adam somethings cannot be repeated often enough. Cassie, well, it will be of no surprise to anyone that I LOVE THIS POST!!! (and yes, I'm all about the new smiley bank. So again ... )  ETA: Um, what happened? The rest of my post disappeared. Oh well, the moment has passed ... |
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Post by chunkeymonkey81 on Feb 18, 2011 23:13:59 GMT -5
Very interesting discussion tonight. I find myself agreeing with just about everyone. I, like all of you, want Adam to be recognized for his incredible voice, incredible talent, his wonderful personality, his remarkable people skills, his positive attitude, and his whole gorgeous self. I am not surprised, however, that he is not. I know too many mega-talented, nice artists who exist in oblivion, playing gigs at night and working as teachers, waiters, insurance salesmen, or computer geeks for a living. I also have tastes in music and art that are not "mainstream." In fact, Adam is the only artist I listen to that has had a top 40 presence at all. None of the artists I enjoy would make the "celebrity A list." I look at what is hottest in the entertainment world - TV, music, movies - and KNOW I am not in the demographic, cuz most of it leaves me cold. I have tried introducing Adam to my friends and family, with little success. I have to accept that their tastes and appreciation just differ from mine. I'm not gonna start listening to their country music or urban music either, and they accept that as well. So, for me, I am thrilled that Adam has gotten the measure of fame and recognition he has. I am thrilled that he will always have a full time career in performance that will provide a comfortable living and artistic satisfaction. I am grateful that he has achieved enough recognition that I can see him on talk shows and hear him on recordings -- even go to a concert when he doesn't live in my city. I am excited about the possibilities for the future. My point? I love my Adam, and I am over angsting about what others think about him. He seems to be very happy, he says he is living his dream. I am thrilled for him. THIS. THIS. THIS. UNF.      Besides, he is working on a new album, he is Grammy nominated, he gets more positive press than negative....I mean really his star is on the rise. Maybe he will go mega mega with #2 or maybe he will just always be a niche artist. Maybe it will take him longer than he should but at the end of the day at least we found someone who can actually sing in this day and age. And that's something worth celebrating!  Ok..goodnight for realz lololol |
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Post by rihannsu on Feb 18, 2011 23:17:34 GMT -5
For me, I think it's because I feel most of the haters, are haters because Adam is gay. They may say he's flamboyant or not their style, but I really think it's just code for "too gay for me." Which, btw, amazes me! I see things like, Matt Belamy performing in a silver sparkly suit with silver shoes on at the Grammy Awards and no one thinks it is over the top. I see Mick Jagger prancing around the stage, as Mick does, and everyone thinks it cools. Then I read an article saying, "Should Adam Lambert tone it down" and the only difference I see between Adam and the other 2 men is that Adam is the gay one. I've stopped responding to most on-line sites that say stupid things about Adam, because I just don't want to fuel the haters. But it still hurts because I know he deserves better and I can't understand why everyone doesn't appreciate his talent. Why does it have to be so hard for him? No it's not fair, he has to work harder than everyone else...but things will change even if slowly. Doesn't make it fair. I guess my opinion is that nothing will ever further equal rights for all by "fighting" (or posting well written repsonses in most cases) in comment sections or whatnot on the internet. Let's face it, the anonymity of the internet BRINGS OUT THE JACKASSERY of people to super high levels and just....people are assholes on the web and live to fight there. I don't think that will ever change and to me it seems a pointless endeavor. LOL. But soldier on guys because maybe I am dead wrong here and my cynical heart will grow three sizes. Actually I'd like to be proven wrong.  Ok I am gonna take off before ya'll hate me oh man Don't know if you'll see this but I think it is important for the intelligent reasoning NOT BSC fans to make a point to respond on articles. It is about correcting errors and pointing out the unconscious homophobia that is more prevalent and insidious than the open hate. Articles like this seem fairly innocuous on the surface but as others have pointed out when think about whether a straight artist would be told to "tone it down" you realize that there is an underlying prejudice at work that is all the more dangerous for the fact that those guilty of it are horrified at the notion that they are being homophobic. They are convinced that they are enlightened and tolerant but they have only reached partial acceptance. It's the "I don't mind gay people as long as they don't shove it in my face" argument that I actually find more offensive than the open haters. These supposedly tolerant people are more responsible for the continuance of prejudice because they just want it to go away. I have seen that when a number of fans post intelligent rebuttals of articles and comments that the number of negative comments decrease greatly. It is also important to negatively rate the homophobic comments because then they get hidden. If we are consistent in showing that that behaviour is not tolerated then the haters go elsewhere. Many sites that used to have horrible deluges of offensive comments have been turned around due to this kind of concerted effort of the part of the fans. In this respect it is important for the saner fans to comment. |
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Post by evergreen on Feb 18, 2011 23:18:19 GMT -5
Now I am spamming. Just wondering, but is this one of those streaming sites that Adam makes money off of? This was discussed in that article posted earlier about how to help the artists you love make more money.[/quote] *** Don't know if Vevo pays for hits, but it would be nice! Adam has had more than 41,518,000 hits on his videos there. Even at the huge amount of $.0017 per hit as reported by NPR, it's not a bad day's work. And they also picked up the tab for the filming of the concert DVD, so yeah, Vevo! |
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Post by Holst on Feb 18, 2011 23:24:11 GMT -5
For me, I think it's because I feel most of the haters, are haters because Adam is gay. They may say he's flamboyant or not their style, but I really think it's just code for "too gay for me." Which, btw, amazes me! I see things like, Matt Belamy performing in a silver sparkly suit with silver shoes on at the Grammy Awards and no one thinks it is over the top. I see Mick Jagger prancing around the stage, as Mick does, and everyone thinks it cools. Then I read an article saying, "Should Adam Lambert tone it down" and the only difference I see between Adam and the other 2 men is that Adam is the gay one. I've stopped responding to most on-line sites that say stupid things about Adam, because I just don't want to fuel the haters. But it still hurts because I know he deserves better and I can't understand why everyone doesn't appreciate his talent. Why does it have to be so hard for him? No it's not fair, he has to work harder than everyone else...but things will change even if slowly. Doesn't make it fair. I guess my opinion is that nothing will ever further equal rights for all by "fighting" (or posting well written repsonses in most cases) in comment sections or whatnot on the internet. Let's face it, the anonymity of the internet BRINGS OUT THE JACKASSERY of people to super high levels and just....people are assholes on the web and live to fight there. I don't think that will ever change and to me it seems a pointless endeavor. LOL. But soldier on guys because maybe I am dead wrong here and my cynical heart will grow three sizes. Actually I'd like to be proven wrong. Ok I am gonna take off before ya'll hate me oh man  ChunckyM, don't go! It was just getting interesting. :D |
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Post by cayman on Feb 18, 2011 23:29:21 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, he has also mentioned ice-cream. Dreyer's Silk Chiffon, something like that I think. If you ask me what ice-cream my kids like the best :  : : : crap, I am truly addicted. Hmmmm. You mean French Silk ice cream, right? I know that was just a typo. 8-) Oh, kiddies, while we're here, let's give Adam some more hits. www.vevo.com/watch/adam-lambert/fever-vevo-presents/GBE431000288Crap! :-*Yes, of course, that is exactly what I meant to say. Not to digress, however, the Yahoo post by Valerie whoever????? When I first read the article my thought was: Such an original thought, Adam has already stated in, minimum two different Grammy interviews, that he is in a transition period. For instance, after the Grammy Summit when he was signing autographs, I remember him saying "I am in a transition period, less rhinestone, more leather." Same quote to Ryan Seacrest. Curious how all of a sudden this person is writing about less Glam & more mainstream (leather???????) Probably just my interpretation. I will not be surprised if this same Yahoo contributor writes an article after album #2 and somehow attributes a shift of rhinestone to leather as her idea of how Adam should portray himself to the masses. I just love 20/20 hindsight. Hi Mika! How is life Bro? |
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Post by Holst on Feb 18, 2011 23:31:42 GMT -5
Did you all realize that IIHY has over 17 million viewss on VEVO? WOW!  |
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Feb 18, 2011 23:32:00 GMT -5
Just catching up with the thread:
I think the highest I saw the Live DVD/CD go on Amazon presale last week when it first came out was #11 in all music (because on twitter a lot of people were hoping it would go to number 10 and get more visibility).
I judge whether it's worth reacting to a piece based on where it is posted. This article being discussed is on a yahoo site which is basically like the examiner as far as I can tell. I.e. anybody can write an article about anything and post it in an instant. It also has no visibility, so that only people who are ever going to see it are Adam or AI fans googling his name. Therefore in my mind it's the lowest form of click bait, (even the gossip blog articles at least have random people browsing). The comment everyone was upset by is so over the top it seems to me to have been written by a troll purposely including the comments and words most likely to get a response from defensive Adam fans.
So for myself, I don't bother commenting in these cases. On a public-facing news site? Yes, if I can comment with a disinterested, detached, unbiased tone (nothing turns off a reader more quickly from your POV than a whiff of fanaticism IMHO). Of course, commenting because it feels right and good to you is awesome, that's just my personal take.
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Post by aloha on Feb 18, 2011 23:34:39 GMT -5
Now I am spamming. Just wondering, but is this one of those streaming sites that Adam makes money off of? This was discussed in that article posted earlier about how to help the artists you love make more money. *** Don't know if Vevo pays for hits, but it would be nice! Adam has had more than 41,518,000 hits on his videos there. Even at the huge amount of $.0017 per hit as reported by NPR, it's not a bad day's work. And they also picked up the tab for the filming of the concert DVD, so yeah, Vevo! If that's the case--- I'm gonna give more hits for sure!!! Actually, Adam tweeted the link the other day so that means he wants hits. That's good enough for me. |
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