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Post by nonotme on Aug 2, 2011 14:55:51 GMT -5
A little OT for where the conversation is now. Just for general information (not pushing any particular point of view)-
Shortly before Adam and Drake broke up Adam mentioned once in some small interview that he had only been in love "twice," and another time said something like once-maybe-twice. After the break-up he consistently said "once."
Also, in a small interview while doing promo in Europe he mentioned that his last boyfriend had "dumped" him because he (boyfriend) couldn't take the public spotlight and all the invasion of privacy. I remember this was discussed on ontd_ai and the poster said something along the lines of now-I-feel-bad-that-we-thought-Drake-was-an-attention-whore.
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Post by emmuzka on Aug 2, 2011 14:59:44 GMT -5
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Aug 2, 2011 15:00:17 GMT -5
I'm sure Sauli understands how the media edits/slants/cuts interviews and articles in order to print the most provocative headlines. This is not new - it happens to all celebrities. A tempest in a teapot, IMO. 8-)
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Post by lynne on Aug 2, 2011 15:03:28 GMT -5
And THIS is why he doesn't want to talk about his relationship to the general public... And this is all I meant to imply when I stated that his statement that he did not see marriage in his future could ultimately hurt Sauli. I am not advocating they make that decision now or ever...but to state publicly about marriage that way can not help but have implications for the other person in a current relationship. In the case of Sauli...the implications move far beyond those of the heart. Adam is not in danger of being deported or of losing face. Sauli is....regardless of what we think. That is all I ever meant... Furthermore, if marriage had no meaning or importance, then why is it such a contentious issue and why are so many priveleges and rights attached to the ceremony. I actually believe the legalities and the religious/symbolic nature of marriage should be separated by time as well as meaning. jmho. I am dropping this can of worms now. I do/did not in any way mean to cast aspersions on Adam or Sauli...nor do I mean to suggest what is right for them or anybody. eta....exactly, re saying anything. He should have just said I do not want to discuss it...instead he said he did not see marriage in his future, with no hedges for mind changing. I agree...he shound not have said anything...too bad...but it was bound to happen....sheesh I understand what you are saying, Mszue, that you just didn't want people in/and the media to interpret it this way and misinterpret the intention of Adam. Likely, the interview was already edited to elicit that kind of sensationalized response to grab the most possible interest. Who knows what Adam really said in context? Media exploits, and anyone who is part of Adam's romantic life is going to have to live with that reality, be thick-skinned, trust and listen only to Adam personally and shrug off gossip. Sauli seems to be pretty level headed and has a good sense of humor, and that helps. Adam has been very protective of people he loves in the past, and I'm sure he tries to protect Sauli from all the baggage that comes with him as best he can. In the end, whoever loves Adam will know that Adam is worth it.
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Post by SusieFierce on Aug 2, 2011 15:25:52 GMT -5
A little OT for where the conversation is now. Just for general information (not pushing any particular point of view)- Shortly before Adam and Drake broke up Adam mentioned once in some small interview that he had only been in love "twice," and another time said something like once-maybe-twice. After the break-up he consistently said "once." Also, in a small interview while doing promo in Europe he mentioned that his last boyfriend had "dumped" him because he (boyfriend) couldn't take the public spotlight and all the invasion of privacy. I remember this was discussed on ontd_ai and the poster said something along the lines of now-I-feel-bad-that-we-thought-Drake-was-an-attention-whore. peace&love Only my vibe/instinct, nonotme, but I've always kind of gotten a conflict with that whole situation too. I always attributed it to Adam being in Idol during most of his relationship with Drake (as mys*&@^#r pointed out), and I have always wondered if he really knew. My last relationship was long-distance and at the beginning, with the romantic intensity, etc., I thought for sure I was in love, but as things progressed, they kind of cooled off and we became more friends than anything else. In retrospect, I don't think I was ever ~in love, though I might have thought I was at certain points in time. I can totally see Adam being conflicted with his feelings about Drake. When A was in Idol, Drake was a connection to the outside world, but once he got out and the maelstrom of press, fans, paps, tour, etc. came down upon them, it looks like things changed very quickly. From what they've said, it seems they remained friends, but it it really didn't seem to be the intense connection that he felt during the time he and Brad were together and definitely not what he conveys about his feelings for Sauli. (I can't believe he still has that lights-up-like-the-Vegas-Strip, squishy, doe-eyed, romantic look when he references their relationship after 9+ months; that's amazing.)
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Post by PostFestumPF on Aug 2, 2011 15:30:25 GMT -5
Magazines don't always quote their interview subjects correctly. Adam might have said "I don't see myself getting married in the near future" or Adam himself might have accidentally left out the "near" even if that's what he meant. Not saying that Adam should want to get married; just pointing out that it wouldn't be the first time he was misquoted. I have to take issue with those who say marriage doesn't matter. The reason the LGBT community is fighting so hard to overturn discriminatory laws is that marriage does matter from a legal standpoint. Partners who are not legally married cannot make decisions for each other should one of them become incapacitated. They can't visit their sick loved ones in the hospital in some cases. They can't automatically inherit property. They can't file a joint tax return. Marriage exists to establish a legal relationship where there is no blood relationship. It's kinda like adopting each other. It's not legalizing sex or love--both of those things can happen just as easily outside of marriage. It's just a legal recognition of a couple's rights as they apply to one another. Well said... and I think we all can all agree that while marriage may not be for everyone... it should be everyones RIGHT should they choose to marry.. Good points, Murly. In this day and age there are ways to go around some/most of the issues you mentioned, but it will be much more complicated than getting married. Most won't go through the trouble and then when your partner is sick (or worse, dies) you really see the difference. Yes, I believe everyone should have the right to choose. So, both marriage, civil unions and registered partnerships should have same legal statuses. YMMV, with love.
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Post by gelly14 on Aug 2, 2011 15:40:55 GMT -5
A little OT for where the conversation is now. Just for general information (not pushing any particular point of view)- Shortly before Adam and Drake broke up Adam mentioned once in some small interview that he had only been in love "twice," and another time said something like once-maybe-twice. After the break-up he consistently said "once." Also, in a small interview while doing promo in Europe he mentioned that his last boyfriend had "dumped" him because he (boyfriend) couldn't take the public spotlight and all the invasion of privacy. I remember this was discussed on ontd_ai and the poster said something along the lines of now-I-feel-bad-that-we-thought-Drake-was-an-attention-whore. peace&love Only my vibe/instinct, nonotme, but I've always kind of gotten a conflict with that whole situation too. I always attributed it to Adam being in Idol during most of his relationship with Drake (as mys*&@^#r pointed out), and I have always wondered if he really knew. My last relationship was long-distance and at the beginning, with the romantic intensity, etc., I thought for sure I was in love, but as things progressed, they kind of cooled off and we became more friends than anything else. In retrospect, I don't think I was ever ~in love, though I might have thought I was at certain points in time. I can totally see Adam being conflicted with his feelings about Drake. When A was in Idol, Drake was a connection to the outside world, but once he got out and the maelstrom of press, fans, paps, tour, etc. came down upon them, it looks like things changed very quickly. From what they've said, it seems they remained friends, but it it really didn't seem to be the intense connection that he felt during the time he and Brad were together and definitely not what he conveys about his feelings for Sauli. (I can't believe he still has that lights-up-like-the-Vegas-Strip, squishy, doe-eyed, romantic look when he references their relationship after 9+ months; that's amazing.) ITA. And as I already said while talking to mys*&@^#r timing is everything IMO. I don't know if anyone of you remember what Adam said about his relationship with Drake before he broke up with him, in this amazing OUT interview that everyone wants to forget but to me is one of the most revealing interviews he ever made. This is part 2 of the interview and this is what he said about his relationship with Drake. It was clearly hard (at least for me I think) for him when they broke up.:What was the wall you hit with him? Sometimes it’s hard to, like, be a boyfriend for somebody, because you don’t know what that means. What does that mean? Especially if you haven’t been in many relationships. And being in the gay community, we don’t grow up with any role models for that. We don’t know what we’re supposed to be. And I think that’s funny because there’s so much -- again, it’s something that’s being evolved out of, but in the gay community there’s so much promiscuity. It’s socially accepted in the gay community to be promiscuous. It’s like, oh, we’re both men, we’re supposed to want to fuck all the time and cheat on each other. And it’s OK, open relationships are fine because we’re all men. And I’m not judging that, but I don’t think that’s for me. I don’t think it’s emotionally healthy. Then you have to balance that with being away so much, being on tour. So who knows, you know? The other thing that’s really hard is that you have to decide whether or not you have the focus and the energy to give to the other person. That’s a difficult thing, too. And who knows what the future could hold with that. I might have to say, “You know, this is how much I love you, that I have to let you go. I can’t give you what you deserve right now, so this isn’t going to work.” Hopefully it works. I want it to. But we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. Out of the love I have for him, I don’t want to neglect it. [Sighs.] God, I can’t believe I’m saying all this. I think we put all these expectations on relationships and create this idea of, oh, this is how it’s supposed to be, because this is what all these other relationships that I see, that’s how they are. I think it’s really hard but really necessary to be like, but what are my needs? And what are your needs? And that’s our relationship. And that’s the hardest thing, because no one tells you how to do that. www.out.com/detail.asp?page=3&id=26192
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Post by Coconutgrove0 on Aug 2, 2011 15:44:39 GMT -5
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Post by Coconutgrove0 on Aug 2, 2011 15:50:01 GMT -5
Hoopla Magnet MSN: Adam Lambert not in a rush to marry: is.gd/7KfRCK1 minute ago
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Post by lynne on Aug 2, 2011 15:57:55 GMT -5
Gelly
Interesting to read that all again. Thanks!
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