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Post by rabbitrabbit on Aug 22, 2011 21:49:14 GMT -5
I'm just going to comment on the general issue and why it rubs me the wrong way because it crops up from time to time. Also I'll preface that I'm certain adamme didn't mean anything by it and just wanted to express her appreciation for Sauli.
Leaving aside Adam and who he is or has dated and what his preferences are, because that isn't the real issue, when I see a statement saying that manly is more preferable to flamboyant or effeminate, or that a boyfriend who "fit's in" more or doesn't have certain "mannerisms" is to be preferred, it comes across as homophobic to me.
ETA: or what kittykay said
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Post by readon on Aug 22, 2011 21:54:26 GMT -5
I have no idea how to classify Sauli -- the only adjective I can come up with is smoldering. That is one hot man. And I think that Adam is lucky or fated to have connected with him. Agreed. In relationships, I don't know if we evolve. Each relationship has different connections. Each relationship has pros and cons. If the pros/cons balance, then one tends to find long term satisfaction. If the imbalance is too great, we tend to move on. Speculation here, the Brad/Drake relationships ended because it was clear to one or both parties, that the imbalance would not sustain a long term relationship. For now, (purely speculating again because we really don't know), Sauli and Adam seem to have a very balanced relationship that could lead to something long term. I like the picture of them. I can read loads of things into that pose and most of it is postive. I just hope for the best for both of them. |
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Post by melliemom on Aug 22, 2011 21:55:11 GMT -5
I hope Adam and Sauli have a long lasting relationship. There just seems to be something magical about the two of them together.
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Post by durberville on Aug 22, 2011 21:55:24 GMT -5
...I know nothing about Brad nor Drake - but I've always admired the fact that they have never betrayed Adam's trust. Fine men indeed.
That said.....Sauli seems perfect for Adam....and man is he hot!
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Post by elizalynn on Aug 22, 2011 21:57:07 GMT -5
"Fit in anywhere" is homophobic? Really? That connotation can or cannot apply to almost anyone I know......some people are just more socially intuitive than others. Good example: Adam's ability to code-switch to whomever he is speaking with. Not everyone has this ability, and it is priceless if you are in the public eye. Sauli just sparkles, just like Adam, another characteristic of the socially adept. The Universe was guiding Adam when he found this gorgeous little Finn.
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Post by kittykay on Aug 22, 2011 21:57:56 GMT -5
I'm just going to comment on the general issue and why it rubs me the wrong way because it crops up from time to time. Also I'll preface that I'm certain adamme didn't mean anything by it and just wanted to express her appreciation for Sauli. Leaving aside Adam and who he is or has dated and what his preferences are, because that isn't the real issue, when I see a statement saying that manly is more preferable to flamboyant or effeminate, or that a boyfriend who "fit's in" more or doesn't have certain "mannerisms" is to be preferred, it comes across as homophobic to me. ETA: or what kittykay said To extrapolate to the real world. I am taking a traing class at work our instructor is from New York, very sweet and well groomed. He was gone today and the class asked HR for a new instructor because he was obviously gay because his nail beds were shined, not even polished. HR's response is he was from the city and we can't assume he is homosexual he could be metrosexual. I had to leave the room after expressing my disgust with the whole conversation. How is the "effeminate" male conversation any less offensive? Do people not like Adam as much when he shows his feminine side? |
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Post by cassie on Aug 22, 2011 21:58:07 GMT -5
IMHO, Sauli seems to fit it in anywhere, Brad and certainly Drake, not so much. But I am not a fan of Brad's, I find him annoying, phoney and affected. Drake was just bitch-faced most of the time. Sauli just seems more socially confident and aware.....and he seems to have never met a stranger! So I agree, Adam has grown immensely in the past two years, and so has his choice of companion. So happy for Adam and Sauli !!!! Why is it necessary to cut down others to support Sauli? I find the comment "fit in everywhere" very homophobic. Isn't that the attitude we are all fighting against? Isn't Adam working hard to educate the masses to embrace their individuality? I'm sorry if this is coming across as too strong. I am dealing with just this issue at work. I didn't expect the attitudes here. I didn't read "fit in" as homophobic at all. I have had boyfriends that I thought could fit in in a variety of situations, and some that could not. Some were lost if they accompanied me to the symphony, but did great at a football party with friends. Some fit in at the symphony, but didn't relate well with my professional colleagues. Then, there were a few that I could take to a family gathering, a museum, a staff function, sailing, or to a bridal shower, and they fit in. I never had to worry about them. As for evolving, aren't we all? Adam himself, in an interview, said that because his life was changing so much, his taste in a partner might also change. I know that my choice in relationships changed for the better and occasionally for the worse, depending on where I was at the time. (Can you say, "approaching 40 and not married, a little desperate, figuring I needed to 'settle' and not be so picky?" "Can you say disaster?") Ultimately, we all hated when family and friends started giving us advice about the suitability and desirability of our boyfriends or girlfriends. And they had at least met them! I'm going with my mother's perspective. She always said, "Whoever treats you well and makes you happy, I will like. If they don't I don't care how wealthy, good looking, charming, or successful they are. I won't like them." Yay, Mom! |
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Post by 4Ms on Aug 22, 2011 21:59:11 GMT -5
IMHO, Sauli seems to fit it in anywhere, Brad and certainly Drake, not so much. But I am not a fan of Brad's, I find him annoying, phoney and affected. Drake was just bitch-faced most of the time. Sauli just seems more socially confident and aware.....and he seems to have never met a stranger! So I agree, Adam has grown immensely in the past two years, and so has his choice of companion. So happy for Adam and Sauli !!!! Lol Now tell us what you really think. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I love sparkly Brad and Adam photos. They made such a beautiful a couple. Real life Brad would probably drive me crazy. Didn't like the look of Drake in pics and can't seem to appreciate the cute in Sauli. People who've actually met them think they're wonderful. My superficial impressions are pretty silly. |
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Post by evergreen on Aug 22, 2011 22:04:48 GMT -5
Yay, Cassie!
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Post by las on Aug 22, 2011 22:07:06 GMT -5
Didn't Adam say his new music would be about not judging a book by it's cover.....this discussion makes me want to hear his new music even more....
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