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Post by feelalive on Sept 1, 2011 15:36:33 GMT -5
Wow, thanks, Gelly!! *stares and stares* His hair looks amazing from that day-- so shiny and floppy and sexy, omg! Yeah, he looks stunning!! I rarely mourn his hairdos. I loved it down. I love it up. I'm so ~however he looks at the moment ... ITA |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 15:40:54 GMT -5
juniemoon and paperheart....please take a quick look back at what I was claiming. I am NOT in anyway arguing for Subo's artistic talents....what I am saying is that much of her success lies in serving a highly ignored demographic that has plenty of money in their pockets and just waiting for the right music. Hey, I kid, I kid! ;D And I think you have a great point about the under-served adult market. The top few acts are youth-oriented but the success of the artists you name shows that others would buy more music if anyone got off the dime and made something they wanted to listen to. My dad ... well, he's 84 and I don't think he really wants to hear anything new and that is OK. But there ARE many a bit younger who love great vocals and would also like interpretations of new songs, not the standards. I think your point is well-taken. |
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Post by pjd on Sept 1, 2011 15:48:07 GMT -5
I also believe that SuBo's sales have way more to do with her story than with her singing. Juniemoon, I was just thinking of the Rod Stewart "Great American Songbook" albums in relation to this. I do not find SuBo's interpretation of song to be of interest to me - they are dull. Rod may not have the smoothest voice, but I love these songs. I own most of these albums and I ADORE the version of Bewitched, Bothered & Bewildered he did with Cher. For those looking for a CD of ballads or standards, there are several options out there. I don't particularly follow this genre, but there is Buble, Harry Conick Jr, Natalie Cole, Josh Groban, maybe Boccelli. There are probably several others that those more into this genre would know. There seem to be good sales in this genre, but SuBo's were beyond what is "normal" and other than her story there is no reason for it. I truly think the sale for this next album will be lower - probably more in line with Groban - since I think a large chunk of the "I feel sorry for her" buyers have moved on. (Sort of like AI buyers not following their "favorite" after the show ends)SuBo's Xmas album doesn't really count for me in judging future sales since a lot of people buy Xmas albums just because they are Xmas (I own over 30 Xmas albums just because I like holiday music - I'm not even really Christian!)
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Post by melliemom on Sept 1, 2011 15:50:31 GMT -5
Clay Aiken has been doing old covers of standard hits,both recorded and on his last tour. He also had a PBS concert of old hits a while ago. I thought he was dreadful.. Nothing fresh or new.. I think Adam might prefer to sell Department store cosmetics again ,then go the same route as Aiken.JMHO  |
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Post by gelly14 on Sept 1, 2011 15:54:17 GMT -5
juniemoon and paperheart....please take a quick look back at what I was claiming. I am NOT in anyway arguing for Subo's artistic talents....what I am saying is that much of her success lies in serving a highly ignored demographic that has plenty of money in their pockets and just waiting for the right music. Currently, they will buy her, and Josh Rogan and sometimes Andrea Bocelli or Sara Brightman [when they put out their non-classical stuff] and that is about it. Part of that demo will like Buble [good grief...look at how well he sold and sells!!] but others will be uninterested in those 'American songbook' offerings...ditto Bennett. Give this demographic a cd with melodic, crisp, well sung and produced music with no condescension and compromise on quality and I predict it would sell millions. As I always say....I could be wrong... often am... Sell millions. So? If Adam wanted to sell millions by reaching out this crowd he could totally do it, when people were saying to him to change his image . Wear a suit, a tie, and "pretend" . That is not what Adam wants. Adam wants to be himself and create new music. Adam wants to be a pop star. He does not want to sing (boring and horrible IMO- that Wild Horses was not only for a good laugh but.. anyway) covers like Susan. But this is my opinion (about the boring and horrible I mean) And I agree with the other two, her success is totally because of her story. If this was so easy, so many people with very good voices that came out from idol would do the same and sell millions. But this is not the case. JMO. |
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Post by cassie on Sept 1, 2011 15:55:13 GMT -5
Got a note from Starlight about new Adam programs she has planned!:“ Hi Stardust, How lovely to hear from you! Thank you so very much for your most kind comments re: my programmes on Adam's voice, music and lyrics - I LOVE making them, because who can ever get enough of talking about him! I'll post a special programme on The Sound Bath blog site on 15 September all about "Outlaws of Love" and what exactly makes it so stunning - if you'd like to pop by: soundbath.wordpress.com. And next Wed 7 Sept, I'll be chatting to Juneau & Xena about Adam's transformation from child performer to adult artist - join us if you can - you can call into the show - should be fun! xx ”  CHEERS! Thank you very much for posting this. I just got off the "phone" skyping with Angelina for her program about Outlaws of Love. She's got some great ideas for the show, plans to have great guest commentators (well, I'm not including myself in that category, but we had a lot of fun squeeing about how wonderful he sounds) and I think she will do Adam proud and highlight how special the song and the artist are. So, something for us all to look forward to. |
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Post by mszue on Sept 1, 2011 16:02:55 GMT -5
OK...I clearly have a communication problem here so i will throw it out one more time then I will just let it go.
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT OLD FASHION STANDARDS. The songs I initially 'suggested' are all already in Adam's 'songbook'. Stuff he sang at Upright, on AI and on or recorded for FYE. What I said is simply that I believe there is a huge audience for straight, tuneful/melodic, relatively new or original songs, sung well.
Then I listed a few of the people serving the demographic that would like and likely buy this music. IMHO there are few artists even attempting to serve this demo at the moment. That is why when someone [yes with a great backstory that really greased the wheels on these pocketbooks] came along they were thrilled to buy her stuff in droves.
These people are not all closed minded peeps that would not buy from Adam...i do not believe that for a minute. Sure there will be some...but not so many more than the numbers that would not buy a Subo cd because they are too cool for her but would love to have one from Adam.
I would buy it...well I would buy anything from him, let's face it haha...but my brother would buy it, and my sister, my parents if they were still alive, and countless of my friends...this I know. Right now they buy all the other afore-mentioned stuff [with the exception of my parents, obviously.] ...unless the hereafter is a music store :-)
eta I did not say he should...or wanted to....I was just throwing out an observation after Subo's success was commented on....I am not trying to change Adam...good grief
eta again...much of this crowd also ate up Nora Jones a few years ago, and Adele just this past year!!
WHEW...it ain't that deep....sigh....
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Post by pjd on Sept 1, 2011 16:10:57 GMT -5
Hmm ... I think maybe the closest I've been to a "stan" before Adam might have been Rod Stewart  Was just looking through my music on my computer and found I have 130 unique songs from Rod. To be honest, I know almost nothing about him personally - but I remember enjoying his spandex leggings when I was a teen. I clearly remember him on TV in hot PINK leggings singing Hot Legs. Clearly, we've become a lot more boring since then since Adam's look is considered really out there and crazy! |
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Post by evergreen on Sept 1, 2011 16:14:54 GMT -5
OK...I clearly have a communication problem here so i will throw it out one more time then I will just let it go. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT OLD FASHION STANDARDS. The songs I initially 'suggested' are all already in Adam's 'songbook'. Stuff he sang at Upright, on AI and on or recorded for FYE. What I said is simply that I believe there is a huge audience for straight, tuneful/melodic, relatively new or original songs, sung well. Then I listed a few of the people serving the demographic that would like and likely buy this music. IMHO there are few artists even attempting to serve this demo at the moment. That is why when someone [yes with a great backstory that really greased the wheels on these pocketbooks] came along they were thrilled to buy her stuff in droves. These people are not all closed minded peeps that would not buy from Adam...i do not believe that for a minute. Sure there will be some...but not so many more than the numbers that would not buy a Subo cd because they are too cool for her but would love to have one from Adam. I would buy it...well I would buy anything from him, let's face it haha...but my brother would buy it, and my sister, my parents if they were still alive, and countless of my friends...this I know. Right now they buy all the other afore-mentioned stuff [with the exception of my parents, obviously.] ...unless the hereafter is a music store :-) WHEW...it ain't that deep....sigh.... I agree, Mszue - I don't imagine he'll be interested in doing an album of covers any time soon, wanting to establish himself as a pop star and a composer. However, there is some wonderful music out there, new and old, that Adam could do justice to (understatement), and probably loves, since he's been exposed to much of it. Now just isn't the time, and we'll just have to be p.a.t.i.e.n.t........ And, God knows, we're getting some practice at that! |
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Post by bridgeymah on Sept 1, 2011 16:24:03 GMT -5
OK...I clearly have a communication problem here so i will throw it out one more time then I will just let it go. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT OLD FASHION STANDARDS. The songs I initially 'suggested' are all already in Adam's 'songbook'. Stuff he sang at Upright, on AI and on or recorded for FYE. What I said is simply that I believe there is a huge audience for straight, tuneful/melodic, relatively new or original songs, sung well. Then I listed a few of the people serving the demographic that would like and likely buy this music. IMHO there are few artists even attempting to serve this demo at the moment. That is why when someone [yes with a great backstory that really greased the wheels on these pocketbooks] came along they were thrilled to buy her stuff in droves. These people are not all closed minded peeps that would not buy from Adam...i do not believe that for a minute. Sure there will be some...but not so many more than the numbers that would not buy a Subo cd because they are too cool for her but would love to have one from Adam. I would buy it...well I would buy anything from him, let's face it haha...but my brother would buy it, and my sister, my parents if they were still alive, and countless of my friends...this I know. Right now they buy all the other afore-mentioned stuff [with the exception of my parents, obviously.] ...unless the hereafter is a music store :-) WHEW...it ain't that deep....sigh.... I agree, Mszue - I don't imagine he'll be interested in doing an album of covers any time soon, wanting to establish himself as a pop star and a composer. However, there is some wonderful music out there, new and old, that Adam could do justice to (understatement), and probably loves, since he's been exposed to much of it. Now just isn't the time, and we'll just have to be p.a.t.i.e.n.t........ And, God knows, we're getting some practice at that! Rod Stewart didn't tackle the standards until the last decade... so I imagine Adam has a few years yet. But there are other classic music styles that he could explore and add something to. Guy Sebastian (Australian Idol winner) did that a few years ago with his Memphis album exploring the music recorded at the Ardent Music studios in Memphis. Adam has been recording at some iconic recording studios around LA and might make for an interesting approach for a future time... |
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Was just looking through my music on my computer and found I have 130 unique songs from Rod. To be honest, I know almost nothing about him personally - but I remember enjoying his spandex leggings when I was a teen. I clearly remember him on TV in hot PINK leggings singing Hot Legs. Clearly, we've become a lot more boring since then since Adam's look is considered really out there and crazy!
