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Post by gelly14 on Oct 7, 2011 12:48:37 GMT -5
Very interesting mys*&@^#r. So the winner might end up with nothing? And what about Simon who said about a 5 million $ contract for the winner?
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Post by stampsgal on Oct 7, 2011 12:49:07 GMT -5
Sorry to bump into your discussion. Nina is still berting :D ninagarcia Nina Garcia #FF @michaelkors @heidiklum @projectrunway @lizzzuy @marieclaire @georgekotsi @zoesaldana @calvinklein @adamlambert @cfda @stevenkolb Duh ...clueless here.... what is her message...what does #FF mean?
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Post by justgill on Oct 7, 2011 12:49:40 GMT -5
Yes, Q3 is in the midst of moving, and had told me she hopes to have internet access back late today. noangel, you posted this earlier I would like to take just the words down to 'compare contracts' as I'm putting together a discussion point on Amazon UK re the 'joint' album. It's the only one currently here. I can pick up Adam's denial ok but I'm not sure where to find this; I need it to be authentic, so don't want to just type in a copy. I don't do Facebook, so if that's the answer can it be copied for me? Thanks :D
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Post by whatfun on Oct 7, 2011 12:50:16 GMT -5
I don't hangout there either. ATop is home. But when someone new Googles "Adam Lambert site" or "Adam Lambert fan" and they get either AO or ALF as the first sites, it's not a good first impression. Not sure what effect it would have on someone Googling further because I have been down the rabbit hole for far too long to be unbiased! ETA: I am not a Daughtry fan but I have checked out his site periodically just to compare and I think his site is way better than AO. It's easier to read and seems to be kept up to date better. I disagree, I think it's a terrific first impression. Most people surfing the web for the first time to find out about Adam are not immediately looking for an interactive forum to post on a daily basis too, they just want to find out about Adam. From a straight design perspective (not a user interface one, which once again, casual fans are really not gonna do more than dip their toe into at most) both AO and ALF are GORGEOUS. I mean, really beautiful. The star strewn night sky with the tinge of aurora borealis and lean leggy Adam striking a pose on every AO page is eye catching to say the least. And the stunning pictures of Adam along with the classy typography and terrific balance of content with negative space on ALF is memorable branding as well. And both are very very Adam. Yeah, if a person digs down into the site and wants to communicate with other fans then things get a bit more challenging LOL. But I'd be willing to bet that only a fraction of the visitors to either of the sites have any intention of doing that, although more may be curious enough to lurk the forum areas. As far as updating the sites with timely info and branding for the new era, someone above said that Adam was sort of taking us for granted. I see it a different way, I think he trusts us, trusts that those of us who frequent those sites regularly enough to be irked by some of the details slipping will not let that stop us from sticking around until he has time to focus on that area. Frankly, I personally don't want one single thing distracting him from that shiny new album, even if it is just meeting with candidates for a Day Manager to take Lane's place. IMO that can wait. Music takes precedence. There really isn't anything of any substance to announce now anyway. And I really don't get the fuss over the membership at ALF, if you paid the minimum amount, you get access to the site and probably any presale codes that are given in the future. If you paid for the higher amount, at the very least you will get a mirror of the last package, a t shirt and a message from Adam. Anyone worried that it will be the same t shirt is being silly, of course it won't. So I don't get what they want Grnd Ctrl to tell them, this has already been communicated in their last email.
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Post by aralid on Oct 7, 2011 12:50:37 GMT -5
I don't hangout there either. ATop is home. But when someone new Googles "Adam Lambert site" or "Adam Lambert fan" and they get either AO or ALF as the first sites, it's not a good first impression. Not sure what effect it would have on someone Googling further because I have been down the rabbit hole for far too long to be unbiased! ETA: I am not a Daughtry fan but I have checked out his site periodically just to compare and I think his site is way better than AO. It's easier to read and seems to be kept up to date better. As a fairly new fan I can tell you that my first site was AO and my biggest problems were that it was so slow for me and the forum was not clearly arranged. But for 3-4 month it was my home, until early august. Till today I do not why, but my account has been blocked! I wrote an email to the mods twice and did not get a reply. It was so frustrating and this is not an experience a fan should made, beeing blocked without a reason. Well, I at least I can not remember doing something wrong, I'm just not like that. I checked the rules (way too many) twice. I'd just warmed up and started posting more often. It was really discouraging and frustrating. Then I found Atop, after a little research, and liked the forum, it was clear arranged and a great athmospere. And it is so much more fun stanning here than there.
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Post by Craazyforadam on Oct 7, 2011 12:50:45 GMT -5
Thanks SusieFierce for doing the flailing for me. Just did not have it in me today! I do think that DMG still has a bit of time to step it up, but they are starting to run out. imo, letting the fan base hang is totally understandable, because quite frankly the 10,000 asylum committed nutcases that Adam does have in his corner are exactly that - part of asylum - and will never run away. So, he can ignore us, fortunately. But his online presence he cannot ignore and presently he does. The top site everybody goes to when google-ing his name is AO. We have no idea and neither does Adam probably how many people were driven away from researching anything about him by what they found there. IF RCA were smart they would shut that AO forum down and actually rely on the fan sites for discussion type interests and 'unconfirmed news' and gossip, etc. by allowing fan sites to link there, instead of blocking every user who ever posts a link to another site and treating them like competition. They (RCA) cannot play that role themselves, neither resource wise, nor legally, so providing a list of connected links, but stating that they are not responsible for any content on those sites is exactly helpful to them. Then can concentrate on a nice looking general official website instead of that news and music page, that is out of date and awkward. Could also use Facebook, of course. Very little moderation needs, just keeping up a couple of simple web pages. Voila! ALFC suffers in my mind mostly from an ill-conceived layout. Can't find anything among those threads. In the end other fan sites had already proven how to do it right, they came later, why couldn't they even copy? ALFC serves in my mind only a few purposes right now. a) pm some folks on other fan boards. Obviously, if we don't read there regularly, and I am only a very casual visitor (once a month or so), then things sit a while before they are found. b) Future pre-sales and seniority within fandom (agree with Rihannsu here) c) Announcements from his management used to come from there (mostly Lane) and this is missing right now. I am giving them a bit more time there. Perhaps it is in the work. I agree that an "under construction" statement would be useful at this time, if that were actually the case. I do not believe that DMG has its official numbers of people or revenue updated and published. Those numbers cannot be right for 2010 or 2011, but could be correct for a pre-KP-latest album and latest tour time. The thought has occurred to me that part of this DMG's small company approach might be that it allows for a high artist involvement in management itself, and that Adam went for that because he wants to be in charge. But with being Executive Producer on the album, the actual album creation itself and doing your own management, Adam may have created his own problem by over-extending himself. His constant assurances to us that he is working hard....are not helping to diminish that impression at all. He is not the first young manager I have seen in my life who has to learn how to delegate. I do believe that this is a struggle for Adam the perfectionist.
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Post by melliemom on Oct 7, 2011 12:53:09 GMT -5
I was just looking at this site www.directmanagement.com/ a minute ago. Very little information, but on another site they give out information as this being a small private company with five to nine employees and approx revenues between $500,000 and one million. That is not very much to work with in the very high profile world of entertainers. The only artists I recognize are Katy Perry and K.D. Lang (love her) I trust Adam's instincts in this choice. I know he is probably totally immersed in the new album and management issues are not top priority, although I agree with SusieFierce, not good to leave things up in air. Why don't they list Adam as a client??Did the deal ever go through? I miss Lane
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 12:56:43 GMT -5
Sorry to bump into your discussion. Nina is still berting :D ninagarcia Nina Garcia #FF @michaelkors @heidiklum @projectrunway @lizzzuy @marieclaire @georgekotsi @zoesaldana @calvinklein @adamlambert @cfda @stevenkolb Duh ...clueless here.... what is her message...what does #FF mean? It's called Fast Forward Friday and it is sending out recommnedations of who your followers should follow!
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Post by NoAngel on Oct 7, 2011 13:02:13 GMT -5
Yes, Q3 is in the midst of moving, and had told me she hopes to have internet access back late today. noangel, you posted this earlier I would like to take just the words down to 'compare contracts' as I'm putting together a discussion point on Amazon UK re the 'joint' album. It's the only one currently here. I can pick up Adam's denial ok but I'm not sure where to find this; I need it to be authentic, so don't want to just type in a copy. I don't do Facebook, so if that's the answer can it be copied for me? Thanks :D Unfortunately, that pic is all I have. Steve's FB is friends-only, so even though I'm on FB I can't see his posts. I found that circulating on Twitter, presumably screencapped by someone who is friends with Steve or has a mutual friend of Steve's.
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Post by tigerlily on Oct 7, 2011 13:08:54 GMT -5
THIS^^^
I know that Clarkson fans were complaining about her official site before the update. Adele didn't even have any type of forum or message board on her official site until they started a fan forum just 2 and 1/2 months before her album drop date.
Maybe ALF needs to be simplified and things like the point system need to be dropped. I paid $25 dollars a few years back to be part of the Miley Cyrus fanclub. (when my DD was a young teen) All I got out of that was a plastic card in the mail with a number on it that allowed me to purchase presale tickets. HA!! I ended up paying hundreds of dollars for tickets on a ticket resale site. Perhaps fans are expecting too much out of an official fansite??
We have album news and hints that things are starting to come together. I can't worry about a point system problem or fans bitching about a lack of blog posts by Adam. I could care less about those types of things.
ETA: Just wondering: If fans didn't understand what they were getting for their money, why did they go ahead and purchase memberships before they were clear on what was going on?
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