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Post by wal on Oct 7, 2011 22:46:34 GMT -5
TaylorG90 Taylor Green Happy birthday @mr_S*&@^#r_T ! See you in a bit. Get ready! 3 minutes ago
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Post by Craazyforadam on Oct 7, 2011 22:48:38 GMT -5
I think the thing that seems oddest to me is that Monte thinks highly enough of Malcolm Welsford to thank him on his new album's liner notes. Whereas Adam thinks the guy fucked him over for a buck. If both Adam and Monte were equally fucked over, why would Monte be grateful to him? Of course, it's possible that the scam album fuckery came to light after Monte had finished printing his album covers. But then I would think that Monte could just as easily chastise Malcolm as Adam did. I'm seriously not a Monte hater. I want very much for everything to be good between him and Adam. But I must admit things look a bit odd. JMHO YMMV etc etc Re: Monte's album with the thank you to Malcolm I have only heard the one track that Liam McEvan played a week ago, but from that I have to say that Monte's album was recorded with excellent studio quality behind it. Could it be as simple as Malcolm the long time acquaintance, gave Monte studio access and resources in exchange for his guitar playing and worked out a very reasonable price and so Monte thanks him in the liner notes? A completely normal business deal if looked at it by itself. I am sorry, I still have trouble understanding. Are we saying that because Malcolm is a scumbag and is screwing over Adam, which he is, that this hinders Monte to offer his guitar playing in exchange for i.e studio time even going forward (in work that is independent and unrelated to Adam)? Monte needed to get an album out. His written music did not make Adam's album, so he needed to find other ways to finance and produce his recordings. While I don't find it great that Monte associates with a bad apple like Malcolm, I certainly cannot see wrong-doing in doing so either.
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Post by mischa on Oct 7, 2011 22:49:11 GMT -5
lol found funny old gif of the glambulges. You are out of your mind! That was so hilarious that I couldn't contain myself and had to make up a big lie to explain my behavior to a friend staying over. I've embarrassed myself more in the last 2 years than I ever did as a teenager.
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Post by cassie on Oct 7, 2011 22:57:51 GMT -5
[wry grin] Hmmm...I have trouble believing that Monte would be so stupid as to sign something without a lawyer, especially knowing what a weasel he is. Monte has wanted to release the CV recordings for some time but Adam refused. Maybe he got tired of waiting. Warning: unpopular theory below. That is a possibility. If that were the case, I know we tend to look at it from an Adam perspective and think that it is a betrayal of Adam. However, playing devil's advocate here, if Monte is very proud of the CV recordings and wants them to have a wide audience, would he not feel that Adam was not supporting HIM, and was betraying their friendship by opposing the release of work he is so proud of? Might Monte feel that Adam was being selfish and petty? Might he think that Adam got those session gigs because of Monte's reputation, that Monte was helping Adam get experience and exposure? That now that Adam's career has gone into the stratosphere, he has disdain for that earlier collaboration? It is no longer good enough to see the light of day? It might cut especially deeply if Adam did not want to collaborate with Monte on any new songs, or even ask him to be a session musician on the album. Just sayin'. There are at least two sides to every story.
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Post by momtomany on Oct 7, 2011 22:59:30 GMT -5
[sticks head back in] You guys know I'm living with a Yankees' fanatic, right? Please say a prayer for me. The last 30 hours have been...interesting. [eyeroll] ::)Oh, Gee! And now he has your parents, "the inlaws" coming for a visit! Never thought I'd think this, but I have a tiny bit of *empathy* for a Yankee's fan! - - - and you, too HSM! Go Tigers!!! ;D
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Post by tigerlily on Oct 7, 2011 23:08:51 GMT -5
Responding that he doesn't know if Cam and Adam recorded the song is a casual response to a casual situation. And perhaps he does know, but since the album tracks are top secret, he lied. Replying to a serious situation, the way he did with the Monte tweet is completely different IMO. And why would he know anything? He's Adam's brother, not just aa PA on the tour. He is living in LA now (up until a week ago, at Adam's house.) I'm sure they talk. And perhaps they even talked about this because I am guessing that the shit hit the fan last night when Adam found out about these 2 albums, whether Monte is involved or not. Adam's tweets sounded like he was pissed. It may be "jumping the gun" to think that Monte could be involved. But I also think it is naive to think that there is absolutely no way Monte could be involved. I can see both sides of the argument. I'm with you, There are enough red flags in this situation to cause some suspicion in my mind. There was some Monte stan on Twitter last night who was saying she talked to Monte this past week and he knew about this album. How did he know about it, but Adam didn't? >:( I'm ready for a whole new group of band members! New Era- New Show-New Cast! Adam is all I need!
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Post by stardust on Oct 7, 2011 23:10:43 GMT -5
[wry grin] Hmmm...I have trouble believing that Monte would be so stupid as to sign something without a lawyer, especially knowing what a weasel he is. Monte has wanted to release the CV recordings for some time but Adam refused. Maybe he got tired of waiting. Warning: unpopular theory below. That is a possibility. If that were the case, I know we tend to look at it from an Adam perspective and think that it is a betrayal of Adam. However, playing devil's advocate here, if Monte is very proud of the CV recordings and wants them to have a wide audience, would he not feel that Adam was not supporting HIM, and was betraying their friendship by opposing the release of work he is so proud of? Might Monte feel that Adam was being selfish and petty? Might he think that Adam got those session gigs because of Monte's reputation, that Monte was helping Adam get experience and exposure? That now that Adam's career has gone into the stratosphere, he has disdain for that earlier collaboration? It is no longer good enough to see the light of day? It might cut especially deeply if Adam did not want to collaborate with Monte on any new songs, or even ask him to be a session musician on the album. Just sayin'. There are at least two sides to every story. Actually, I agree with you about this. Monte probably is not happy with Adam about this. If he did it, I doubt it was an accident.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 23:11:53 GMT -5
I'm sorry but being Adam's brother and even living in his house STILL does not mean that Adam discusses all his business with Neil. That is a HUGE assumption to make. And Neil is historically MORE likely to be extremely flippant about serious stuff because he is not likely to want to give a serious answer to Adam's fans who he already thinks stick their noses too far into his brother's business. I don't recall there being any info on where Neil was staying other than that he was in LA, for all we know he could have been staying with Leila. Do we really think Neil wants to be in the love nest with Adam and Sauli? LOL It was in a tweet by Neil or possibly Eber. I don't make things up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 23:18:35 GMT -5
[wry grin] Hmmm...I have trouble believing that Monte would be so stupid as to sign something without a lawyer, especially knowing what a weasel he is. Monte has wanted to release the CV recordings for some time but Adam refused. Maybe he got tired of waiting. Warning: unpopular theory below. That is a possibility. If that were the case, I know we tend to look at it from an Adam perspective and think that it is a betrayal of Adam. However, playing devil's advocate here, if Monte is very proud of the CV recordings and wants them to have a wide audience, would he not feel that Adam was not supporting HIM, and was betraying their friendship by opposing the release of work he is so proud of? Might Monte feel that Adam was being selfish and petty? Might he think that Adam got those session gigs because of Monte's reputation, that Monte was helping Adam get experience and exposure? That now that Adam's career has gone into the stratosphere, he has disdain for that earlier collaboration? It is no longer good enough to see the light of day? It might cut especially deeply if Adam did not want to collaborate with Monte on any new songs, or even ask him to be a session musician on the album. Just sayin'. There are at least two sides to every story. I think your theory is very good and really valid. I am not nor have I made any value judgements about why Monte might be involved. I can see reasons for how it could have happened. For one thing, I think it was Squirrely who said on Twitter, "Who would have thought, 6 years ago, that something that would be great for one of them would be terrible for the other one?" My discussion has been that I think Neil knows more than we do. So I think his tweet mean something. But to get back to your theory, I think all your points are very good and you were brave to express them! i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Flower.gif[/img]
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Post by evergreen on Oct 7, 2011 23:19:02 GMT -5
Pretty sure Adam responded in less than 24 hours. ETA: I am 99% sure that no one from here is tweeting Adam or Monet about this situation. We are just discussing it among ourselves. It's good to hear different opinions, I think. While we're "discussing it among ourselves," 1,840 guests have dropped by here in the last 24 hours... j/s
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