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Post by mischa on Oct 7, 2011 23:19:13 GMT -5
Ha, ha! And Neil and Adam are at Terrance's BD party right now and not even thinking about all this! LOL! My thoughts exactly. I scrolled through pages 5 - ? because they were way too much for my delicate constitution. So often things we angst about on here and in RL are old news and unimportant to the people involved. Someone mentioned long, long time ago the teachings of Zig Ziglar. "You wouldn't let someone pour garbage into your living room, why do you let people pour garbage into your brain." I'm not referring to anyone or anything, just that negativity is exhausting and usually useless. You know, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. It makes life much calmer and more enjoyable. I wish I had a gif of an ostrich with his head buried in the sand.......... that is often me, but oh well. www.ostrichheadinsand.com/images/ostrich_head_in_sand.jpg
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Oct 7, 2011 23:19:49 GMT -5
[grins] I may have to hurt you. ;D
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Oct 7, 2011 23:23:47 GMT -5
I NEED A PLACE THAT WILL SELL BOOKSHELVES AT MIDNIGHT!!! Seriously, every freaking bookshelf in the house is crammed full. My parents are showing up in the morning and I've got stacks of books everywhere. I'm even out of places to hide them.
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Post by NoAngel on Oct 7, 2011 23:24:44 GMT -5
Warning: unpopular theory below. That is a possibility. If that were the case, I know we tend to look at it from an Adam perspective and think that it is a betrayal of Adam. However, playing devil's advocate here, if Monte is very proud of the CV recordings and wants them to have a wide audience, would he not feel that Adam was not supporting HIM, and was betraying their friendship by opposing the release of work he is so proud of? Might Monte feel that Adam was being selfish and petty? Might he think that Adam got those session gigs because of Monte's reputation, that Monte was helping Adam get experience and exposure? That now that Adam's career has gone into the stratosphere, he has disdain for that earlier collaboration? It is no longer good enough to see the light of day? It might cut especially deeply if Adam did not want to collaborate with Monte on any new songs, or even ask him to be a session musician on the album. Just sayin'. There are at least two sides to every story. Actually, I agree with you about this. Monte probably is not happy with Adam about this. If he did it, I doubt it was an accident. Well.... but really? Monte wants the CV recordings to have a wide audience and he's pissed at Adam for blocking that? Why would Monte think wide distribution of the CV recordings would be awesome for his career? So his guitar-playing would be showcased? LOL. It's Adam's voice on the CV recordings. I adore Adam but let's be real-- who but die-hard Adam fans are gonna buy the CV recordings? I don't go on iTunes and look for albums with epic guitar playing. The one and only reason Monte would benefit from the CV recordings being released is because Adam fans would buy them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 23:32:36 GMT -5
Actually, I agree with you about this. Monte probably is not happy with Adam about this. If he did it, I doubt it was an accident. Well.... but really? Monte wants the CV recordings to have a wide audience and he's pissed at Adam for blocking that? Why would Monte think wide distribution of the CV recordings would be awesome for his career? So his guitar-playing would be showcased? LOL. It's Adam's voice on the CV recordings. I adore Adam but let's be real-- who but die-hard Adam fans are gonna buy the CV recordings? I don't go on iTunes and look for albums with epic guitar playing. The one and only reason Monte would benefit from the CV recordings being released is because Adam fans would buy them. Good point! Hadn't thought about that. I guess what Monte would gain is the money from the writing royalties. But you're 100% right, it would be Adam's fans most likely buying the albums. I'm confused, going to bed. The only thing I want, is for this to come out good for Adam.
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Post by stardust on Oct 7, 2011 23:33:09 GMT -5
I NEED A PLACE THAT WILL SELL BOOKSHELVES AT MIDNIGHT!!! Seriously, every freaking bookshelf in the house is crammed full. My parents are showing up in the morning and I've got stacks of books everywhere. I'm even out of places to hide them. There's always the trunk of your car?? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by cassie on Oct 7, 2011 23:34:45 GMT -5
Actually, I agree with you about this. Monte probably is not happy with Adam about this. If he did it, I doubt it was an accident. Well.... but really? Monte wants the CV recordings to have a wide audience and he's pissed at Adam for blocking that? Why would Monte think wide distribution of the CV recordings would be awesome for his career? So his guitar-playing would be showcased? LOL. It's Adam's voice on the CV recordings. I adore Adam but let's be real-- who but die-hard Adam fans are gonna buy the CV recordings? I don't go on iTunes and look for albums with epic guitar playing. The one and only reason Monte would benefit from the CV recordings being released is because Adam fans would buy them. Hahaha. You don't go to iTunes looking for epic guitar playing. I don't either. But, I bet that Monte does! Not saying Monte's theoretical reaction would be logical, just that it would be human. Artists want people to see/hear their work. Not only did Monte play guitar, but he co-wrote the songs. They may be his "babies." Whether the CV recordings advance Monte's status as a guitarist or songwriter, whether he receives any monetary benefit, getting his work "out there" can be a compelling motivation. but, it is just a theory.
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Post by rihannsu on Oct 7, 2011 23:38:36 GMT -5
I'm sorry but being Adam's brother and even living in his house STILL does not mean that Adam discusses all his business with Neil. That is a HUGE assumption to make. And Neil is historically MORE likely to be extremely flippant about serious stuff because he is not likely to want to give a serious answer to Adam's fans who he already thinks stick their noses too far into his brother's business. I don't recall there being any info on where Neil was staying other than that he was in LA, for all we know he could have been staying with Leila. Do we really think Neil wants to be in the love nest with Adam and Sauli? LOL It was in a tweet by Neil or possibly Eber. I don't make things up. I wasn't accusing anyone of making things up I honestly don't remember ever seeing anything more than the fact that Neil was in LA. If it was said great, but as I stated I STILL don't think that we can assume Neil has any detailed knowledge of Adam's business. My daughter lived with me up until last year and I never knew any details of her professional business. It is not a given that a relative would have those kind of details. Is it possible? Yes, but not definite.
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Post by LindaG23 on Oct 7, 2011 23:39:27 GMT -5
Warning: unpopular theory below. That is a possibility. If that were the case, I know we tend to look at it from an Adam perspective and think that it is a betrayal of Adam. However, playing devil's advocate here, if Monte is very proud of the CV recordings and wants them to have a wide audience, would he not feel that Adam was not supporting HIM, and was betraying their friendship by opposing the release of work he is so proud of? Might Monte feel that Adam was being selfish and petty? Might he think that Adam got those session gigs because of Monte's reputation, that Monte was helping Adam get experience and exposure? That now that Adam's career has gone into the stratosphere, he has disdain for that earlier collaboration? It is no longer good enough to see the light of day? It might cut especially deeply if Adam did not want to collaborate with Monte on any new songs, or even ask him to be a session musician on the album. Just sayin'. There are at least two sides to every story. When this looked like it might blow up, I thought about what you said. The only problem I have with that side of the story is that the album cover says Adam Lambert and only Adam Lambert; not CV, not Monte Pittman, not any of the other collaborators, just Adam.
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Oct 7, 2011 23:41:05 GMT -5
There was some Monte stan on Twitter last night who was saying she talked to Monte this past week and he knew about this album. How did he know about it, but Adam didn't? >:( Whatever the truth is this above is one of the reasons I'm team side-eyeing Monte, who I'm sure has his own valid personal reasons, financial or artistic for whatever his stance is on all this. It looks like there might not be a clear communication flow, and if as seems likely there is some communication going on privately, publicly there is no show of unity from Monte. This is similar to earlier events. Adam may or may not tweet to show unity as he did last time, and the rollercoaster will steady eventually. Regardless, I'm pretty much going to take Adam's side on any possible artistic/business conflict of interest with other people. I'm here for Adam, I wish the best outcomes for his career and it's impossible for him to make everyone happy. The fact that he clearly cares and makes an attempt might in some cases have given people a mistaken impression that this would always be possible. It's just not.
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