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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Oct 8, 2011 11:12:37 GMT -5
Can any online mods please meet me in the Chat Room?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 11:12:47 GMT -5
Which interview is it in which Adam talks about Citizen Vein days and things just not quite taking off in part maybe, he thinks, because the person helping them was from New Zealand (I think) not LA area, and perhaps didn't have enough connections - remember that interview?
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Post by slappymcjellypants on Oct 8, 2011 11:13:08 GMT -5
No stones from me. The only word we have from Adam is that it isn't his vision. This is not that uncommon of a story that earlier work gets released through a legal loophole. (shrug) Business as usual as an Adam fan - wait and see  And yes... was a big time lurker. I just feel strongly about when people put their own opinions or feelings behind limited information - it's dangerous. |
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Post by maria222pf on Oct 8, 2011 11:14:17 GMT -5
I would like to think that Monte would not screw over his friend for money, for notoriety, for a vindictive greedy wife, for anything. If he did, he is garbage and I hope to never see or hear of him again. >:( ITA, very sad situation if that's what happened, which I think it did IMO |
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Post by rad1109 on Oct 8, 2011 11:16:23 GMT -5
No stones from me. The only word we have from Adam is that it isn't his vision. This is not that uncommon of a story that earlier work gets released through a legal loophole. (shrug) Business as usual as an Adam fan - wait and see And yes... was a big time lurker. I just feel strongly about when people put their own opinions or feelings behind limited information - it's dangerous. Lurk anywhere else? How'd you find Atopia? |
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Post by rihannsu on Oct 8, 2011 11:17:29 GMT -5
4) A quite reliable fan account on the fan talking with Monte about the release before it got out the open, proving that Monte knew about it (though it's not sure if it was the Beg For Mercy of the Other Bastard they were talking about) The fan who talked with Monte said they discussed Beg For Mercy. What she said to me on Twitter was that Monte told her the following: He has no control over the person releasing the CD; that Monte and Adam both make money if it sells but Adam can't address it because of RCA; that the guys putting it out "helped them when they needed help" and they want to get some of their money back. She told me all this on 10/6 and said her conversation with Monte occurred the past weekend. So if Monte can't stop it and it benefits him the only negative is the shit it causes him with Adam's fans. He probably figures that defending himself on twitter is useless because people are going to believe what they want no matter what he says. Monte apparently feels loyalty towards Welsford and since we really don't know the background of that relationship who are we to judge. Adam quite obviously has a completely different point of view in that even though he will get songwriting royalties this does cause him some problems. Also Adam's relationship with Citizen Vein was through Monte so it always sounded to me like he really didn't have much of a connection to anyone else involved. His loyalty would only have been to Monte. Now going back to the Lisa rant and such, if Monte and Adam have a difference of opinion about these things even though they publicly patched things up and Monte has performed with Adam professionally twice since then, it is quite possible that their personal relationship is no longer as tight. The only arguement against that is that Adam DID tweet the link for Monte's new album along with saying he was proud of him. Monte's position may be one of simply trying not to burn any bridges within the very incestuous music community because taking sides in this issue could cause him problems over the long run. If he is focusing more on not damaging his industry connections then I don't blame him because with 4 kids he can't really afford to piss off the musicians that he works with. Adam is in an entirely different position and really has no need to maintain contacts in the circles that Monte runs in for the most part. The whole thing saddens me because I think it is a case of the typical music business bullshit of artists getting screwed over every which way. |
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Post by adamrocks on Oct 8, 2011 11:18:53 GMT -5
slappymcjellypants , Happy to see a male reinforcement here!  Now, would it be possible for you to share your "Adam discovery" story? Yeah....could you share with us how you became an Adam fan? We love hearing how newbies here found Adam! |
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Post by tigerlily on Oct 8, 2011 11:20:02 GMT -5
Adam's tweets the other day when he found out about BFM:
adamlambert Adam Lambert
Beg For Mercy project is same as 'Take One'. some songs I worked on 5 yrs ago and never finished. This release comes as a surprise to me...
adamlambert Adam Lambert
It is NOT what I'm currently working on, nor does it reflect my artistic vision. Some folks will do anything to make a buck. Fuck.
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Post by bobo on Oct 8, 2011 11:21:19 GMT -5
Now that you mention it, I have vague memories of that. I'm sure someone here will be able to tell us exactly where that comes from. He said it in Ste Agathe. I found the interview in Atop: Twitvid MusiquePlus Intv P1 Adam Lambert Aug 1, 2011 devenlane Read more:http://atop.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=adam2performances&action=display&thread=321#ixzz1aCuKnssq 1:12: Q: What is your biggest fear? A: For a while there was that I would get to end of my life as an older man being alone. That was very scary to me. |
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Post by crazylady on Oct 8, 2011 11:21:58 GMT -5
...but does not change the sliminess of the advertising/release timing . Yep - this is the part that pisses me off the most. It seems so caculated and self serving. JMHO |
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