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Post by tinafea on Oct 8, 2011 18:08:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 18:09:19 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Oct 8, 2011 18:11:11 GMT -5
Q3, respectfully, you have wanted these CV songs released for a long time so I understand, but I'm going to go with Adam's public statements about this, and RCA's reaction to these albums on AO, both of which suggest that they find this harmful to Adam's brand at this moment. (And the promo that the BFM people are releasing which is IMO clearly intended to mislead). No money from me, and I'll actively discourage others from buying unless Adam says otherwise. Yeah, that's where I am with it. And I respect your opinion and other fans opinions about these recordings. And if Adam (or anyone else) provides any info that indicates that this is not a legitimate album I will not purchase it. I never purchased Take One because it was not a legit album. But these recordings are different. They were recorded under a recording contract, people invested a lot of money in that production, Adam knew that they were to be released, etc. I really do not understand why this is such a big deal. Many, many artists have early indie albums or unreleased studio recordings released after they are famous. Of course RCA does not want these released. Major labels never want indie albums from their artists released. All of that aside --- I have been completely open about my opinion that it is better for these recordings to be legally released than to be downloaded illegally. They have a monopolistic model. Finally, I think that the Adam brand is well established and will not be affected one way or the other by these releases. ETA: I think of these recordings a bit like I treat the drawings my son did when he was 4 years old -- the treasured early works that he would throw out if he knew I saved them. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 18:14:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 18:15:46 GMT -5
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Oct 8, 2011 18:18:41 GMT -5
Q3-You don't think that this unauthorized and unwelcome surprise release is going to take away a lot from Adam's sales this time just like it did last time? 100k sales loss is nothing to sneeze at - and a lot to put in the pocket of some underhanded creeps. And how many potential fans will think this is his new music and then listen to it and be disappointed and not become a fan. I don't like it at all and I think it is too bad if this is mistaken for his new music and where he is now. And the timing of this mess speaks for itself. I am angry about it and I think it is despicable and so is anyone who has a part in it so I'll say what Adam said cause I agree with him. "Some folks will do anything for a buck. fuck" JMHO -- I do not think this will do anything to hurt Adam's sales. If anything, it will create a news story about his music and early career and undermine some of the "Made on Idol, too Broadway" stigma. It proves he was trying to be a recording artist for years. I used to do sales forecasting and market estimations for large entertainment companies as part of my job and in similar situations the net result was a sales increase for the primary product -- not a decrease. Finally, I have heard enough about the new Adam music to be firmly convinced that it is so good it will sell and get airplay. If it is as good as I hear it is, and the buzz is tremendous for Adam #2, it will blow everything away.There is no chance that this old music will get any measurable airplay in the markets that matter. No chance. It will be bought by fans who buy all things Adam and who will probably buy multiple copies of Adam 2. Praying that you are right about all of this. 8-) |
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Post by Jablea on Oct 8, 2011 18:24:16 GMT -5
As for Monte's involvement in this whole thing, things are so confusing that I really have no idea at this point, but I will say the more people that chime in to vociferously defend and sympathize with him on an Adam fansite when it is Adam who is clearly being screwed over by Malcolm at the very least, the more I feel bad for Adam that even some of his own fans seem to be putting Monte and even Steve Cooke first. I don't know if I've been a vociferous defender or not but I'll explain why I'll defend/sympathize/deflect for Adam's compatriots on this or any Adam fansite. I do it because I identify with Adam. I think he thinks like I do. (yes, I'm a delusional fan just like everyone else here, lol) And if he were me I think he'd be defending/sympathizing/deflecting until more actual information is known beyond speculation. Based on eventual outcomes from past "gates" I think I'm right oftener than I'm wrong. Now on an intellectual basis I see no upside for Adam to have a reputation as a diva and online fan armys are interchangable with the person himself. Seek how this Cooke guy reacted about his Wiki page. Whether any glamberts were involved or not who gets the blame? Adam. He becomes the diva, he becomes hard to work with, he becomes someone you don't work with or for because his fans will eviserate you without cause. I think Monte gave Adam some needed cred. It will be too bad if Monte decides that the upside of continuing that relationship is not worth the downside. I think that was what he was referring to in him DM warning to Lulu, but I don't think he was referring necesarly to himself but to "people in the business" who won't want to work with Adam. Someone mentioned Claymates yesterday and was the recipient of much scorn but extreme judgemental behavior isn't percieved differently just because the name is changed. And a disclaimer for those who wish to reply with "we're not as bad as the claymates". I have absolutely no idea and I doubt that most other people do either. All I've heard is that they were extreme and they didn't help. What I do know about the Glamberts is that they/we've bring down normal people to their knees within 24/48 hour periods and since this is one of the situations where we haven't been able to force a public apology everyone is getting frustrated. Which reminds me. Was that DJ from last week, who posted the blog and then deleted it (Brother somebody), ever heard from again? |
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Post by whatfun on Oct 8, 2011 18:24:19 GMT -5
Yeah, that's where I am with it. And I respect your opinion and other fans opinions about these recordings. And if Adam (or anyone else) provides any info that indicates that this is not a legitimate album I will not purchase it. I never purchased Take One because it was not a legit album. But these recordings are different. They were recorded under a recording contract, people invested a lot of money in that production, Adam knew that they were to be released, etc. I really do not understand why this is such a big deal. Many, many artists have early indie albums or unreleased studio recordings released after they are famous. Of course RCA does not want these released. Major labels never want indie albums from their artists released. All of that aside --- I have been completely open about my opinion that it is better for these recordings to be legally released than to be downloaded illegally. They have a monopolistic model. Finally, I think that the Adam brand is well established and will not be affected one way or the other by these releases. ETA: I think of these recordings a bit like I treat the drawings my son did when he was 4 years old -- the treasured early works that he would throw out if he knew I saved them. It is a big deal because Adam expressed very clearly that he did not want it to happen. He specifically tweeted that he sees it as someone "do(ing) anything to make a buck," and at least IMO sounds extremely frustrated at this continued riding on his coattails. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that. Whether or not it's legally permissable or even if Adam recieves money for it is irrelevent to me. |
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Post by mischa on Oct 8, 2011 18:25:12 GMT -5
You NOSE PEOPLE are so self-centered. We LEG PEOPLE would never say we wished the photo was from the waist down, now would we? Or would we? No, we are more tolerant of other people's feelings. Just one more thought. Since I am a lifeguard and want everyone safe, happy, and having a good time, my heartfelt request is that we all stay in the shallow end till the intravenous valium kicks in. I'm all for an album cover from the waist down!   You're right, black and white makes a great album cover. |
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Post by nonotme on Oct 8, 2011 18:26:02 GMT -5
I'm sure this is way off topic, but I wanted to direct people who might be interested to something I posted in the social action thread. It is a link to a tumblr where many, many people have posted brief stories about their economic struggles. It is connected to the Occupy Wall Street/Boston/LA/Chicago/San Francisco/etc protests, but it is interesting and moving whether you support the protests or not.
The social action thread is in the "daily news and information" section.
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