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Post by reihmer on Nov 9, 2011 22:58:55 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, I'm coming out of my typical lurkerdom to comment on the Colwel Platinum lawsuit. I'm an attorney, but not an intellectual property attorney, nor am I familiar with California contract or tort law. That being said, I agree with those who said this lawsuit has nothing to do with Adam's involvement with Idol or his MySpace posts. This is all about the takedown notice Adam sent to Amazon. Essentially, Colwell wants two things: 1) damages it suffered as a result of the takedown notice and 2) a judgment by the Court declaring that it has the right to publish, promote, etc., the specific tracks at issue. The issue seems to turn on whether Adam validly rescinded the Music Services Agreement and Co-Publisher Agreement with Welsford in June, 2009. Interestingly, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't June, 2009, when this whole mess first surfaced. And didn't Welsford initially plan to release these songs which Adam co-wrote, but then ended up only publishing the Take One demos? If so, I would suspect that whatever Adam did in June 2009 was done upon advice of counsel and with the blessing of RCA. Whether Adam validly rescinded the contracts will likely turn on whether the language in the Co-Publishing Agreement that limits Adam's damages for breach to an action for damages is enforceable under California law and whether he was due money under the Co-Publishing Agreement at the time of recission. I'm interested to hear about the allegd 2006 loan from Coldwater Entertainment Limited. What, or more importantly, who is Coldwater Entertainment Limited? Did Adam's relationship with Welsford or even Monte go back that far? The Complaint did not provide much detail about the alleged loan or any agreement as to how it was to be paid back. I'd have to read the Co-Publishing and Music Services Agreement closer to see if they allow the setoffs of this alleged loan as Colwell suggests. To answer a question posed earlier, this lawsuit does not seem to seek any rights with regard to FYE or future recordings or compositions. While the contract language on its face appears to give Colwell that right, not everything in a contract is necessarily enforceable. Again, while I don't practice in this area and am not familiar with these types of agreements specifically, I would guess that this is similar to a non-compete clause in an employyment agreement, which courts will enforce, but only if reasonable. That being said, this lawsuit is probably not a big deal. We live in a litigious society and the more successful you are, the more likely you are a deep pocket. Also, this is not the first, nor the last time a business relationship (even between friends) has gone south and ended up in Court. And there is definitely an upside. It is now more obvious that Adam doesn't support this album and that, even if they use his name and his image, this is not his new music. Glad you de-lurked. And thanks for your input as a lawyer.
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Post by zeldon on Nov 9, 2011 23:01:28 GMT -5
I'm with Marie23. Longineau and Zac had some real talent and I missed them when they left. I'm ready to see a new band.
OK - need a quick summary of the falling out between Adam and Monte. Somehow I missed all of that but figure it has to do with old recordings. Can someone bring me up to speed?
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Nov 9, 2011 23:02:10 GMT -5
Embedding for you. ACK!!! Dammit, where's chapf's Dalek "EXTERMINATE!!!" smiley when ya need it??!!??!!??!
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Post by Craazyforadam on Nov 9, 2011 23:03:24 GMT -5
Thanks to our lawyers and paralegals for your insight.
I do understand that this lawsuit does not make any claims against RCA and the new work since June 2009 (FYE etc). My question was more: Let's say Adam settles the claim somehow and Welsford does keep his right: Does that then mean that Adam has this guy hounding him forever. Because Welsford can always re-release the same old stuff again and again....what needs to happen to actually shut this nonsense down once and for all?
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Post by Alison on Nov 9, 2011 23:05:08 GMT -5
What is MJ ??? Did anyone answer you yet bb? "mj" stands for mjsbigblog.com, the site where many of us watching American Idol during the actual season Adam was competing first met. Its an American Idol blog site, not a fansite of any particular contestant. Plus, mj habitually seemed to (in the past) encourage the exodus of as as many fans as possible after a season was over to make room for the new season. Her moderating can be a bit...extreme...at times. Particuarly if people get too gushy. Hence, a large group of us left to form Planet Fierce. PF was run by Rowe, with Q3 as her wingman. When some of the print media jackals were starting to sue blog owners over copyright issues, Rowe got scared and shut down PF without warning. Q3 then set up Adamtopia, and told peeps who had scattered to Twitter or to AFL about the new site. Adamtopia has changed board servers and formatting, and added many wonderful new members. However, many of the "old-timers" have been part of the same group going back to mj's. [laugh] Which is why when someone like hwc, anthrogeek, or janusaquarius show up, a lot of us get excited. They go back a ways with many of us who started off with them on mj's and Adam's American Idol tour and we miss them. :D And THAT'S probably far more history than you were expecting bobo!! ;D Awww Hoppers, I enjoyed this walk down memory lane. We have been through a lot together!
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Post by reihmer on Nov 9, 2011 23:05:34 GMT -5
I'm with Marie23. Longineau and Zac had some real talent and I missed them when they left. I'm ready to see a new band. OK - need a quick summary of the falling out between Adam and Monte. Somehow I missed all of that but figure it has to do with old recordings. Can someone bring me up to speed? Glad you de-lurked. ETA: The only evidence of a fallout so far is Adam unfollowing Monte on twitter. That being said Monte's support of the bastard album is what triggered the whole thing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2011 23:07:06 GMT -5
I'm with Marie23. Longineau and Zac had some real talent and I missed them when they left. I'm ready to see a new band. OK - need a quick summary of the falling out between Adam and Monte. Somehow I missed all of that but figure it has to do with old recordings. Can someone bring me up to speed? This would be the easiest way to catch up on it. There is a thread about it. It got too negative for the daily thread so it was moved. atop.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=membersonly&action=display&thread=522
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Post by chapf on Nov 9, 2011 23:10:09 GMT -5
Dammit, where's chapf's Dalek "EXTERMINATE!!!" smiley when ya need it??!!??!!??! How many do you want? Hoppers
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Post by stardust on Nov 9, 2011 23:14:59 GMT -5
I'm with Marie23. Longineau and Zac had some real talent and I missed them when they left. I'm ready to see a new band. OK - need a quick summary of the falling out between Adam and Monte. Somehow I missed all of that but figure it has to do with old recordings. Can someone bring me up to speed? There is a thread under members only that probably has most of the info. If not PM me, cause its old news here.
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Post by adamrocks on Nov 9, 2011 23:16:43 GMT -5
Marie I really don't care who makes up the band just so long as they sound great behind Adam and they all feel like 'family' to him because he said that is very important to him. I want him to work surrounded by great people so he can feel happy and have lots of fun with all of us! I, also want him to have a set of earplugs custom made that work really well and that he gets the best sound man around! ;D
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