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Post by zeldon on Nov 9, 2011 23:34:52 GMT -5
Thanks for the update. Read the thread and will leave it alone now.
Any way to become an expert sound guy asap so I can tour with AFL?
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Post by houselady on Nov 9, 2011 23:38:47 GMT -5
Here's the wording on the sponsored ad I'm currently viewing (but I wish it wasn't there) on my Facebook page. I wonder how long this promotion will go on.
Adam Lambert - Now Avail!
adamlambertalbum.com
"BMF" (abbreviated by me) from Grammy Award nominee, Adam Lambert is now available for the first time! Click to sample the songs now.
Logo has a blue background with only the words "ADAM LAMBERT" (all caps).
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Post by rihannsu on Nov 9, 2011 23:41:19 GMT -5
I agree. Actually, I thought that the ear plugs he has are custom-made. Sound men are apparently harder to get right. I hope he gets whatever he needs to be happy!!! Yeah, I think they are custom made...but I want him to get a pair made where he's not always having to go to his ears to fix them!  Apparently that may be challenging. I remember The Edge from U2 talking about how hard it was to keep his earpieces in properly even when they are moulded specifically to your ear, because something about the way he uses his jaw when he is singing falsetto notes changes the shape of the ear canal enough that the ear pieces dislodge. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it is common for Opera/Classical singers to need to use ear pieces. I think that the techniques that Adam uses do seem to involve a good bit of shifting around of his jaw. I notice it mostly in Soaked but he seems to have the most trouble in songs with a lot of high notes so I think the way he moves his jaw when hitting those notes causes the ear pieces to shift so he has to fiddle with them. Cassie what do you think? |
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Post by cassie on Nov 9, 2011 23:43:46 GMT -5
I agree. Actually, I thought that the ear plugs he has are custom-made. Sound men are apparently harder to get right. I hope he gets whatever he needs to be happy!!! He does have custom earplugs. Even at the EMAs he had to direct the sound man. I wonder if there is something about the strength and pureness of his voice that makes it difficult for him to hear. I mean, when he was wailing on Sunday, I was imagining what it would be like to have that voice going directly into your ears. It's gotta be really loud, no? Where is cassie or keyboard. We need some technical answers here. I think I remember Kanadie explaining sonethingg about it once. I'm here, but never worked with in ear monitors, so I cannot help you. I can tell you that ear molds made for hearing aids are custom molded. However, when you yawn or open your mouth wide, it changes the shape/size of your ear canal. That can dislodge the mold from its firm seating in the canal. Then, you have to re-seat it manually. There are also fit problems if you sweat or get water into your ear canal. Finally, as the molds age and become more used, they can lose some of their fit. As I understand it, Adam had a couple of problems with the ear monitors and the sound mix. First off, sometimes they didn't work. Maybe a short in the wiring or a dead battery or something. In that case, when the instruments on the stage with amplifiers are deafeningly loud, as they were in parts of his concert, he literally could not hear his own voice. Secondly, sometimes the balance of the instruments, backing tracks and his vocals being fed to the monitor was off or improperly balanced. If the tracks are too soft and his voice too loud, he cannot hear the accompaniment to know if he is on pitch. If the tracks are too loud and his voice too soft, he cannot hear if he is singing on pitch. Have you ever seen someone listening to music on their headphones and singing along? Sometimes their pitch is terribly off, but, because the headphones are too loud, they cannot hear themselves. Then, to complicate matters, the sound guy has to factor in not only what he is feeding into the monitors, but also what is happening live from the amplifiers on stage and the screaming of the audience. He sets a level at sound check, but that is in an empty theater. Fill it with 2000 screaming bodies and the dynamics change significantly. An earplug or ear mold cannot block all the sound in the atmosphere. At some level of loudness, the sound vibrations don't need to hit your eardrum at all. The intensity of the sound waves is such that your skull starts to vibrate and conduct the sound to your inner ear directly. All these considerations make it very difficult to strike the right balance and adjust it to the volume of each song. Even when the mold is correctly fit, and the levels are carefully monitored. If Adam were less of a perfectionist, if he had less of a voice, if his songs were easier to sing, if they used autotune during concerts, things would be easier. |
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Post by evergreen on Nov 9, 2011 23:44:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I think they are custom made...but I want him to get a pair made where he's not always having to go to his ears to fix them! Apparently that may be challenging. I remember The Edge from U2 talking about how hard it was to keep his earpieces in properly even when they are moulded specifically to your ear, because something about the way he uses his jaw when he is singing falsetto notes changes the shape of the ear canal enough that the ear pieces dislodge. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it is common for Opera/Classical singers to need to use ear pieces. I think that the techniques that Adam uses do seem to involve a good bit of shifting around of his jaw. I notice it mostly in Soaked but he seems to have the most trouble in songs with a lot of high notes so I think the way he moves his jaw when hitting those notes causes the ear pieces to shift so he has to fiddle with them. Cassie what do you think? I think I also recall some discussion about the sound engineer having a hard time because of Adam's range. Does anyone else remember this? |
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Post by durberville on Nov 9, 2011 23:46:58 GMT -5
Here's the wording on the sponsored ad I'm currently viewing (but I wish it wasn't there) on my Facebook page. I wonder how long this promotion will go on. Adam Lambert - Now Avail! adamlambertalbum.com "BMF" (abbreviated by me) from Grammy Award nominee, Adam Lambert is now available for the first time! Click to sample the songs now. Logo has a blue background with only the words "ADAM LAMBERT" (all caps). *sighs* dirtbags. ETA....just checked my facebook page and it's on there too. :  |
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Post by maria222pf on Nov 9, 2011 23:52:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the update. Read the thread and will leave it alone now. Any way to become an expert sound guy asap so I can tour with AFL? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by aspen on Nov 9, 2011 23:57:04 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Nov 9, 2011 23:57:15 GMT -5
I've read the complaint. The mention of Idol is just to stir up Media attention to this complaint otherwise it is a simple case of recovery of investment. They are saying that because they were prevented to sell Adam's material they were deprived of their rights to recover what they have invested in Adam . They talk of exploitation of publishers rights. Adam should counter with their blatant exploitation of the artist's rights . The case of Adam uploading the music toMYspace and allowing free donwloads was done in 2008. I did not read any information that Welsford sent Adam notice to desist from doing such. And this is the part that got to me: a. They loaned Adam $ 2,500 in May 2006 b. They will pay him $ 100 for his prorata share for each of the compositions in question c. They paid him $25 per hour for recording the demo, and $50 per hour for recording the finals performances. d. After considering all these , Welsford owed Lambert $ 312.50 for which they paid him for it in Dec 2008.. e. Welsford/Wishire assigned their rights on this contract to Colwell Platinum - the current complainant Colwell wants to be allowed to freely market these recordings. I think upon assigning the contract, Welsford may have received a monetary figure from Colwell thus they will have to pursue this. Colwell apparently did not do enough due diligence. Did they not study Adam's fanbase ? Did they not see that this will not generate enough revenue without the explicit imprimatur of The Adam Lambert. Someone's is going to get really burnt by filing this case, and I believe it won't be Adam. And above figures , just show what a struggling artist Adam was. I think Adam should countersue . But since lawyers are expensive and this lawsuit is a nuisance. There may be a settlement. But I think , the settlement should not involve money. I think the settlement should only be limited to allowing them to sell the CD in the open market under the name of the artist recording it at that time. So if it was under Monte or under Citizen Vein, that should be what is on the CD Label and not claim it as solely an Adam Lambert CD. This is just what I think. Might be other facts I did not read. Just one point of clarification -- Colwel Platinum is Malcom Welsford -- one of many shell companies involved in B4M. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2011 23:57:24 GMT -5
That's an easy answer, because Monte's name on the CD isn't going to sell CDs. Monte has nothing to lose from this "deal" and everything to gain. (Except for anymore paychecks from Adam!) ;D
Adam on the other hand has everything to lose and nothing to gain.
Not to mention (OK I will mention it) it was Monte that got Adam into the dealings with the devil, Welsford, in the first place!
^^ This is why I referred to the link of the other thread. Don't think you and I can ever agree on this, Hoppers.
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