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Post by maria222pf on Nov 9, 2011 23:57:40 GMT -5
I'm with Marie23. Longineau and Zac had some real talent and I missed them when they left. I'm ready to see a new band. OK - need a quick summary of the falling out between Adam and Monte. Somehow I missed all of that but figure it has to do with old recordings. Can someone bring me up to speed? [sigh] Monte apparently didn't see a problem with the release of the Citizen Vein stuff. Plus he's been vocal about wanting those songs released for ages. He loves the music, and is proud of it. According to Monte, he doesn't control the recordings and hasn't dealt with them in years. However, he encouraged anyone who wanted them, to purchase them at the same time Adam was vehemently against their release. There is no proof whatsoever that Monte has done anything to push this album to market or been involved in the skeezy marketing orchestrated by Welsford. But he's seemingly outwardly ok with it being available. (Why, I'm not totally sure as Monte isn't receiving the credit he deserves) Another wrinkle is that Welsford has apparently helped Monte in recent years with Monte's personal albums. Based on the fact that Adam stopped following Monte a week ago, there is strong speculation that a falling out has occurred. #quicksummary ETA: Or you can do what everyone above me suggested and just check out the old thread. It really is a dead horse topic at this point. #don'tneedmoreangst #sorryguys With all due respect (and fully aware that I am beating a dead horse and this should/might/will get deleted) I disagree with you Hoppers completely about your take on this situation. ??? ???  (and am taking a break for the evening, since my blood pressure is rising  ) |
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Post by SusieFierce on Nov 9, 2011 23:58:16 GMT -5
Apparently that may be challenging. I remember The Edge from U2 talking about how hard it was to keep his earpieces in properly even when they are moulded specifically to your ear, because something about the way he uses his jaw when he is singing falsetto notes changes the shape of the ear canal enough that the ear pieces dislodge. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it is common for Opera/Classical singers to need to use ear pieces. I think that the techniques that Adam uses do seem to involve a good bit of shifting around of his jaw. I notice it mostly in Soaked but he seems to have the most trouble in songs with a lot of high notes so I think the way he moves his jaw when hitting those notes causes the ear pieces to shift so he has to fiddle with them. Cassie what do you think? I think I also recall some discussion about the sound engineer having a hard time because of Adam's range. Does anyone else remember this? Yes, I remember hearing this (and it might have been speculation), but the fact that Adam can go so high to so low and so soft to so loud, some theorized that the techs just couldn't keep up with the range of volume and pitch that he used. Also, when he first used in-ears on Idol ("Cryin" and after), it seemed he would always rip them out before he would wail or get very loud. I remember on MJ's people wondering if he needed to do that so he wouldn't blast his own hearing with the volume of his notes. I've always wondered if the Idol in-ears were custom because he seemed to be much more frustrated with them. Once he had custom monitors, it seemed to improve, but there is still a lot of adjustment happening there. I never heard that opening the mouth very wide would alter the fit. It makes perfect sense though. |
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Post by cassie on Nov 10, 2011 0:02:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I think they are custom made...but I want him to get a pair made where he's not always having to go to his ears to fix them!  Apparently that may be challenging. I remember The Edge from U2 talking about how hard it was to keep his earpieces in properly even when they are moulded specifically to your ear, because something about the way he uses his jaw when he is singing falsetto notes changes the shape of the ear canal enough that the ear pieces dislodge. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it is common for Opera/Classical singers to need to use ear pieces. I think that the techniques that Adam uses do seem to involve a good bit of shifting around of his jaw. I notice it mostly in Soaked but he seems to have the most trouble in songs with a lot of high notes so I think the way he moves his jaw when hitting those notes causes the ear pieces to shift so he has to fiddle with them. Cassie what do you think? Ah, we cross posted. You are totally correct about the fit of custom earpieces. Also correct that classical singers don't usually use ear monitors. The volume of the music accompaniment is not high enough to render the singer unable to hear their own voice. Even a full symphony orchestra does not measure near the decibels of a typical rock concert. However, some singers will tell you that when they are singing in full voice with just a single instrument or a small orchestra playing - especially in the pit in front of them instead of from behind - that they sometimes cannot hear the accompaniment. With the sophisticated electronics of today we may see more classical singers using ear monitors. |
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Post by stardust on Nov 10, 2011 0:02:40 GMT -5
WITWIGNAFL! Where is he now? London? New York??? LA??? Where are the paps? They aren't doing their jobs!!!!! >:( :-[ :-/
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Post by Catzmadam on Nov 10, 2011 0:03:16 GMT -5
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Post by durberville on Nov 10, 2011 0:03:58 GMT -5
I'm always kinda fascinated by Adam messing with his ear monitors....he's either tinkering or pulling them out dramatically....hehe.
.....I suspect a good sound technician would be paid very well.
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Post by stardust on Nov 10, 2011 0:04:04 GMT -5
Too Cute!!!!
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Post by jamie on Nov 10, 2011 0:04:41 GMT -5
Apparently that may be challenging. I remember The Edge from U2 talking about how hard it was to keep his earpieces in properly even when they are moulded specifically to your ear, because something about the way he uses his jaw when he is singing falsetto notes changes the shape of the ear canal enough that the ear pieces dislodge. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it is common for Opera/Classical singers to need to use ear pieces. I think that the techniques that Adam uses do seem to involve a good bit of shifting around of his jaw. I notice it mostly in Soaked but he seems to have the most trouble in songs with a lot of high notes so I think the way he moves his jaw when hitting those notes causes the ear pieces to shift so he has to fiddle with them. Cassie what do you think? I think I also recall some discussion about the sound engineer having a hard time because of Adam's range. Does anyone else remember this? Yes but I don't remember where from. I also remember him say he has been told he can sing both soft and loud? Maybe from Moscow interview? Apparently this is unusual from the way he said it. Also, I notice sometimes where he'll just rip out one of his ear pieces and you can tell his singing becomes more solid or he seems more able to tell what he's doing immediately afterward. Example @ :20 [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=p6kTislOfsw&feature=fvst[/youtube] I remember the same thing during the Leno Sleepalker. Does anyone else notice the difference? ETA: slow typer...I'm always late. |
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Post by Q3 on Nov 10, 2011 0:05:23 GMT -5
And a couple more: caridan1 cari @ @devenlane no. Only wrt the beg for mercy stuff. They are not claiming entitlement to his RCA stuff 12 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply » cari caridan1 cari @ @baking4fun unlikely. You can pretty much say what you want in a legal pleading. I think they're not brave enough to deal and sue Sony RCA, that's why they only sue Adam and pretty sure their lawyer advised them that Unless there is another contract out there, Welsford doesn't have any claim against RCA and no reason to sue them. RCA did not interfere with the release of B4M. Adam as an individual did that through his agents (lawyers). |
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Post by tigerlily on Nov 10, 2011 0:06:06 GMT -5
I'm with Marie23. Longineau and Zac had some real talent and I missed them when they left. I'm ready to see a new band. OK - need a quick summary of the falling out between Adam and Monte. Somehow I missed all of that but figure it has to do with old recordings. Can someone bring me up to speed? [sigh] Monte apparently didn't see a problem with the release of the Citizen Vein stuff. Plus he's been vocal about wanting those songs released for ages. He loves the music, and is proud of it. According to Monte, he doesn't control the recordings and hasn't dealt with them in years. However, he encouraged anyone who wanted them, to purchase them at the same time Adam was vehemently against their release. Based on the fact that Adam stopped following Monte a week ago, there is strong speculation that a falling out has occurred.Yep. Short sightedness on Monte's part and choosing short term gain over friendship, loyalty, and years of steady income. Didn't Adam stop following Monte on Twitter WEEKS ago? The latest is Adam deleted Monte from his facebook friends and Neil followed suit. |
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