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Post by Zinnia on Feb 26, 2011 15:10:10 GMT -5
tinyurl.com/6xe4xdv A pic & some lines from the Emma Gaala. Sauli is a VIP guest there and tells he hopes that Adam Lambert wins the Emma. EDIT: ...but he didn't. Emma went to a Finnish group. 
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Post by mirages on Feb 26, 2011 15:18:36 GMT -5
The author goes on to make a prediction. “The song might be a metaphor for the future role of the out gay entertainer in American culture. This song and its promise “I’m about to make it rough for you” helps drive a nail in the coffin of the sexless, minstrelized images of 1990s “gay visibility.” The insatiable, omnisexual persona Lambert inhabits onstage — from American Idol to the American Music Awards — is a bitch slap at the era of “limp wrist and a shopping list,…” .
DO NOT COMMENT ON THIS POST HERE -- POST IT IN THE SALON THREAD ON THIS TOPIC --
I will copy this over there and leave it here but the next comment on this 11.23.09 review in the news thread will be deleted.
Discussion of FYE Album reviews here: adamtopia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=inspired&thread=58&page=1
THANKS. Q3Jablea, thanks for bringing back this quote -- it really stood out for me as well, and I'm hoping since it speaks to Adam's ongoing stage persona and not just FYE that this comment belongs in this thread (feel free to move if not). I think he nailed it by saying that persona is "omnisexual" (actually, before I read this again I was remembering the phrase as "sexually omnivorous", which fits, too) and not at all "limp-wristed". Adam the person remains, consistently, a gay man ("unless you have a surprise under that dress, I don't think it's happening" is about as plain as you can make it), but his stage persona is this Dionysian rockstar channelling sexual energy indiscriminately and joyously. (Well, not always -- there's always the sensitive dude on the stool, and there are those wonderful fourth-wall-breaking moments when he breaks out in a "wasn't that ridiculous and FUN?" grin). We haven't seen that before from a gay performer (though there are examples of straight rock stars doing it -- Bowie, Jagger, Lou Reed, etc.), and I think, if I can have an opinion from the sidelines, that it would have created discomfort and controversy in the gay community even if the AMA performance hadn't gone over the edge from sexually omnivorous to downright aggressive. I personally don't think any man, gay or straight, could have gotten away with that performance. We accept it from women because, although there are anomalies, women do not have the real-life history of violence against their sexual partners that men do. Women are not taken seriously as a physical-sexual threat so when they play that role on stage, it's taken as play. And we know that Adam is all about play (one of my favourite quotes from him is from Rock My Town, "Thanks for playhing along!"). Sometimes he's playing with very light-weight stuff (I love his campiness in "Strut ) and sometimes he's playing with much weightier issues in a light-hearted way, like the subversiveness of kissing Tommy onstage in order to desensitize people. We know Adam has a social agenda that far, because he's said so. Does it go farther, consciously, to what this writer implies about his role as someone challenging mainstream society to accept gay men as full and potent people, not as limp-wristed shopping buddies? Possibly. |
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Post by SusieFierce on Feb 26, 2011 15:18:46 GMT -5
I think people also see colors differently, so why not hear differently as well. I used to work with graphic designers a lot and was often stunned at the names they would call some colors. For example, something that was clearly in the pink family to me, a designer would call orange. I couldn't see orange to save my life. This in related to the work I do..... Sensory responses to the same stimulus varies dramatically at an individual level -- everything from sound, to colors, to taste/flavors and so on. And the associated brain activity and other biological responses vary dramatically. The reasons for the differences are not completely understood but the best current research indicates that it is physiological, experiential and cultural. Here is an example -- the blues are based in part on African music traditions. When most people outside of African communities and their decedents heard this music it sounded "wrong" because of the blue notes. Two notable exceptions are people familiar with Celtic and Eastern European traditional music which use a similar scale. I think this is part of the reason why the earliest non-African American adopters of this music were very familiar with these genres -- UK-Irish bands (Eric Clapton), Jewish-American musicians and composers (Gershwin, Al Jolson) and early rock-and-roll/rockabilly artists who were exposed to Traditional Scots-Irish American Music (Elvis Presley). For example -- when people first heard the Music developed mostly in the Mississippi delta in the 1920's to 50's -- the blues AKA "blue devil music". It was not just about racism -- it was a completely different music vocabulary. Most people and music critics derided it. Note: Thank the British musicians -- who did not just copy the blues but transformed it into a louder, brasher, psychedelic-tinged rock genre that white Americans "got". Check out any of the BB King + Eric Clapton duets and you will see they are playing the same music -- and blue notes.Another example --- Look at the path of feedback and distortion in music..... Buddy Guy invented it, Hendrix learned it from him and took it to a new place (the UK), and then it spread globally. Back to Adam -- IMO just like Hendrix, Adam is changing the way some people hear vocal musicians in pop music. He has the capacity to redefine the role of the voice in pop music. JMHO I would rather Adam explore his potential more than go for quick hits that will be forgotten in a few years. Ideally, he will not need to make this trade-off. And for some reason -- the Glamnation Live Sleepwalker video seems to be crossing over to some non-Adam fans -- including some rock-loving men -- is a very powerful way. Fascinating post, Q3, thank you!! I love the thought of Adam redefining vocals in pop music. (Q3 moved reference to Bully Bloggers review to Salon thread.)Interesting how, generally speaking, generation after generation has a breakthrough sound and the older generation says, "WTF?" to the innovation because they are shifting the established norms. I mean, it's amazing to think of Chuck Berry or Elvis as being perceived as "a bunch of noise," by 1950s parents (as often depicted). And then having the '50s teens (my parents) saying the same thing in the '70s when we were listening to Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Queen, etc. It does seem like there is more crossover now than ever before though. I know tons of parents who take their kids to concerts from a young age (something I could NEVER imagine my parents doing) and my brother knows more about my nephews' favorite bands then they do |
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Post by Q3 on Feb 26, 2011 15:23:15 GMT -5
Hi everyone! I've been wanting to share this story, and my squeeing about it, for the past few days. So I get an email from a friend, saying "my friend Pam who lives in Seattle is a songwriter for Adam Lambert." W-wa-WUT?????? First, WHY is this the first time you're telling me this? Second, aaaahhhhhh I want to meet Adam! Ok, so I did once, but nevertheless. Third, last album or this one? Is he working on Adam #2? Well, her name is Pam Miller, and I'm told she "likes him a lot" (of course!), she's working with on something now, she was at the Grammys, and she met Adam through Simon. I was thinking that one of the many experts might know more about this? Tried google but couldn't come up with anything. I'm not sure why, but I definitely flailed over this one! This is my best guess --- Pamela Winter Miller --- LA based songwriter. www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=1565191&search_in=c&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=25&start=1 But really relevant music credits. The only other Pam Miller songwriter I found of note is a Canadian singer-songwriter who does Gospel music -- def not her. |
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Post by satisfied on Feb 26, 2011 15:25:25 GMT -5
Q3 and Lulu - thanks for the follow-up on my question re Amazon Canada. Just ordered everything! The cost is surprisingly low, especially with free shipping (and no duty if ordered in Canada). Must be 'cause we luurve him so much up here, eh?  |
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Post by Coconutgrove0 on Feb 26, 2011 15:28:41 GMT -5
Adam didn't win at Emma's, didn't even hear his name mentioned ..... sorry .....
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Post by dyg on Feb 26, 2011 15:30:22 GMT -5
Kagmel, I also see frogs instead of pictures and some frogs instead of avatars :-( Okay.... DON'T DISS THE FROGS!!! I'm now feeling cheated cause I don't see any! >:(   Your frogs are lovely, seoulmate :-) Did you know that the colorful frogs are poisonous?   |
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Post by cassie on Feb 26, 2011 15:31:15 GMT -5
Want a chuckle?
Marauding Gay Hordes Drag Thousands Of Helpless Citizens From Marriages After Obama Drops Defense Of Marriage Act"Reports continue to pour in from around the nation today of helpless Americans being forcibly taken from their marital unions after President Obama dropped the Defense of Marriage Act earlier this week, leaving the institution completely vulnerable to roving bands of homosexuals." www.theonion.com/articles/marauding-gay-hordes-drag-thousands-of-helpless-ci,19325/ |
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Post by aloha on Feb 26, 2011 15:33:39 GMT -5
Want a chuckle?
Marauding Gay Hordes Drag Thousands Of Helpless Citizens From Marriages After Obama Drops Defense Of Marriage Act"Reports continue to pour in from around the nation today of helpless Americans being forcibly taken from their marital unions after President Obama dropped the Defense of Marriage Act earlier this week, leaving the institution completely vulnerable to roving bands of homosexuals." www.theonion.com/articles/marauding-gay-hordes-drag-thousands-of-helpless-ci,19325/ HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! |
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Post by seoulmate on Feb 26, 2011 15:34:11 GMT -5
Sensory responses to the same stimulus varies dramatically at an individual level -- everything from sound, to colors, to taste/flavors and so on. And the associated brain activity and other biological responses vary dramatically.The reasons for the differences are not completely understood but the best current research indicates that it is physiological, experiential and cultural. OT, but this reminds me of peeps who have synesthesia... Any synesthetes here on Atop? I've often wondered what people with synesthesia "see" while listening to Adam music!! hubpages.com/hub/whatissynesthesia |
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* AL Nov. 5th, 2011
