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Post by rihannsu on Dec 19, 2011 21:48:45 GMT -5
I, who know nothing, wonder if RCA/DGM is trying a different strategy for Adam. 1) Adam's fans are invested fans and will flood online voting in these anyone vs. Adam radio contests. 2) Adam's invested fans are doing extensive word of mouth and doing our usual buying--so maybe they are testing early adopters vs new buying fans? 3) getting a lot of Internet and print reviews of BTIKM almost all of which are very positive and mention Trespassing which benefits in generalized positive name recognition. 4. Adam uses twitter differently, and maybe they are trying to see what market penetration they can get through alternative methods before regular promo kicks in. That was kind of my thought too, in that dropping now with no promo to speak of gives them a really good look at the hardcore super invested fanbase and at the same time get a look at how interested media outlets are by seeing the media response. If it also gets media outlets coming to them that puts them in a better position than if they are having to cold call PR. It would seem to me that it is always better to have the PR opportunities coming to you rather than having to push to them. Creates a climate of having them competing for your promo rather than you having to go begging for coverage.
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Post by ksha518 on Dec 19, 2011 21:53:23 GMT -5
I, who know nothing, wonder if RCA/DGM is trying a different strategy for Adam. 1) Adam's fans are invested fans and will flood online voting in these anyone vs. Adam radio contests. 2) Adam's invested fans are doing extensive word of mouth and doing our usual buying--so maybe they are testing early adopters vs new buying fans? 3) getting a lot of Internet and print reviews of BTIKM almost all of which are very positive and mention Trespassing which benefits in generalized positive name recognition. 4. Adam uses twitter differently, and maybe they are trying to see what market penetration they can get through alternative methods before regular promo kicks in. I think all of these thoughts seem plausible. And c'mon, there's just something very exciting about so many stations around the world playing the song. It doesn't matter if only the fans know that it WILL be played. Plenty of non-fans will hear it without knowing what's about to hit them, lol...and some of them are bound to say -- 'I like that! Who was that singing??' Or they'll read a review and say "I should check that out". Plus, this scenario DOES allow Adam a few days to chill...(apparently literally, given the weather, haha)
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Post by stardust on Dec 19, 2011 21:56:32 GMT -5
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Post by ksha518 on Dec 19, 2011 21:56:40 GMT -5
I, who know nothing, wonder if RCA/DGM is trying a different strategy for Adam. 1) Adam's fans are invested fans and will flood online voting in these anyone vs. Adam radio contests. 2) Adam's invested fans are doing extensive word of mouth and doing our usual buying--so maybe they are testing early adopters vs new buying fans? 3) getting a lot of Internet and print reviews of BTIKM almost all of which are very positive and mention Trespassing which benefits in generalized positive name recognition. 4. Adam uses twitter differently, and maybe they are trying to see what market penetration they can get through alternative methods before regular promo kicks in. That was kind of my thought too, in that dropping now with no promo to speak of gives them a really good look at the hardcore super invested fanbase and at the same time get a look at how interested media outlets are by seeing the media response. If it also gets media outlets coming to them that puts them in a better position than if they are having to cold call PR. It would seem to me that it is always better to have the PR opportunities coming to you rather than having to push to them. Creates a climate of having them competing for your promo rather than you having to go begging for coverage. Rihannsu, this makes a lot of sense. I like this idea a lot!! And this is what you can do when you know there is superstar potential.
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Post by adamrocks on Dec 19, 2011 22:04:27 GMT -5
I, who know nothing, wonder if RCA/DGM is trying a different strategy for Adam. 1) Adam's fans are invested fans and will flood online voting in these anyone vs. Adam radio contests. 2) Adam's invested fans are doing extensive word of mouth and doing our usual buying--so maybe they are testing early adopters vs new buying fans? 3) getting a lot of Internet and print reviews of BTIKM almost all of which are very positive and mention Trespassing which benefits in generalized positive name recognition. 4. Adam uses twitter differently, and maybe they are trying to see what market penetration they can get through alternative methods before regular promo kicks in. That was kind of my thought too, in that dropping now with no promo to speak of gives them a really good look at the hardcore super invested fanbase and at the same time get a look at how interested media outlets are by seeing the media response. If it also gets media outlets coming to them that puts them in a better position than if they are having to cold call PR. It would seem to me that it is always better to have the PR opportunities coming to you rather than having to push to them. Creates a climate of having them competing for your promo rather than you having to go begging for coverage. I agree with all this. They're watching the power of Adam's fanbase...we'll deliver! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2011 22:05:03 GMT -5
I, who know nothing, wonder if RCA/DGM is trying a different strategy for Adam. 1) Adam's fans are invested fans and will flood online voting in these anyone vs. Adam radio contests. 2) Adam's invested fans are doing extensive word of mouth and doing our usual buying--so maybe they are testing early adopters vs new buying fans? 3) getting a lot of Internet and print reviews of BTIKM almost all of which are very positive and mention Trespassing which benefits in generalized positive name recognition. 4. Adam uses twitter differently, and maybe they are trying to see what market penetration they can get through alternative methods before regular promo kicks in. That was kind of my thought too, in that dropping now with no promo to speak of gives them a really good look at the hardcore super invested fanbase and at the same time get a look at how interested media outlets are by seeing the media response. If it also gets media outlets coming to them that puts them in a better position than if they are having to cold call PR. It would seem to me that it is always better to have the PR opportunities coming to you rather than having to push to them. Creates a climate of having them competing for your promo rather than you having to go begging for coverage. Both of these comments make it sound like RCA is using Adam's promo for his 2nd album as an experiment and I just do not even want to think about that. :-/ I hope that everything is well planned out and we just don't know about it yet.
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Post by readon on Dec 19, 2011 22:15:45 GMT -5
Hi guys. I love the new single. Every time I listen to it, I get sent down a listening rabbit hole that put me in a continual repeat mode. Each listen brings the thought of a particular relationship scenario that fits. The more I listen the more scenarios come to mind and I have to listen more to capture the emotion and the feeling. I get lost n my music fantasies. Good stuff. Really good stuff. I watched some of the video of Adam at the Helsinki airport. I am glad that Adam is spending some time with Sauli's family and friends. I wish that he could have gotten to Finland incognito. Just imagine how we all felt having any of our relationship decisions played out in front of freinds and family. It cannot be an easy thing having your personal life played out in front of the entire world. Wow!! Talk about work/life balance. Adam is going to have to live this on a whole 'nother level. He has always said, "It's worth it". Watching the video today, hmmmm. I think he had to reinforce that thought.
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Post by ksha518 on Dec 19, 2011 22:19:30 GMT -5
That was kind of my thought too, in that dropping now with no promo to speak of gives them a really good look at the hardcore super invested fanbase and at the same time get a look at how interested media outlets are by seeing the media response. If it also gets media outlets coming to them that puts them in a better position than if they are having to cold call PR. It would seem to me that it is always better to have the PR opportunities coming to you rather than having to push to them. Creates a climate of having them competing for your promo rather than you having to go begging for coverage. Both of these comments make it sound like RCA is using Adam's promo for his 2nd album as an experiment and I just do not even want to think about that. :-/ I hope that everything is well planned out and we just don't know about it yet. IMO, if it IS an experiment, they're not doing it randomly or just for the hell of it. My feeling (and yeah, that's all it is) is that they know they have something big and this is all leading into something else that will build upon what's happening now -- that they're doing this (IN ADDITION to all the other stuff we don't know about yet) to maximize something that they're, like me, very excited about. I'm sorry, I'm really just talking/spamming from a position of no knowledge, so I'll let the more knowledgeable and articulate people take over. Carry on, people. p.s. If this promo DOES turn out to be a mess, I'll be pissed!! But I'm putting that thought aside, cuz I SO don't expect that.
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Post by ksha518 on Dec 19, 2011 22:29:35 GMT -5
Hi guys. I love the new single. Every time I listen to it, I get sent down a listening rabbit hole that put me in a continual repeat mode. Each listen brings the thought of a particular relationship scenario that fits. The more I listen the more scenarios come to mind and I have to listen more to capture the emotion and the feeling. I get lost n my music fantasies. Good stuff. Really good stuff. It's funny, because I tend to react that way to songs -- either intellectually or on an emotional/fantasy level, but this song brings up some painful stuff in a couple of different ways for me, and I was not expecting to love it. But it kind of blew me away on what was at first a completely visceral level -- a physical response to the voice. It didn't matter what I thought, or felt, because my body just loved it. And my heart and mind are coming along. LOL. So there you go. Good stuff indeed. ;D ETA: Ok, I'm really going now. End of spamming.
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Post by happycat14 on Dec 19, 2011 22:36:05 GMT -5
Hey guys, call me nuts, but when I look at the Adam in the Shanghai airport vid, I think of Marilyn Monroe: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc8YKki7y-AIs that just me? I mean the air about him, obviously not gender or anything physical, it's something he gives to the camera, and to those around him. I sort of like the airport stuff, because on the crazed fan-o-meter, hells no, I'm not going to the airport to even greet my own family. But it's nice to see the dedication. Felt he should get some privacy in Finland, oh well, he was very polite. Randomly, I love the autograph vids because he looks so delicate and fragile in them - it's like a 180 of his on-stage persona, when he often (at least to me) looks kind of pissed, and fierce and fiddling with his in-ear monitor. For example: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4deAYWoDhQQ&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL40B43B3BA7B545B8So do I get to dl BTIKM from itunes at midnight? Chunkeymonkey - shout out to your posts, which make me laaaauugh. Bridgeymah - Hey, hope you're cool. Taumbu - if you're still reading along here, hello. Happy holidays, y'alls.
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