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Post by Sagittarius on Dec 23, 2011 11:21:51 GMT -5
Adam getting drunk, throwing punches and being in a bar brawl seems to be connecting with a lot of men. Makes some kind of weird sense to me. I think for some it does. My own husband, a very evolved type of man, thought the story, including the beauty queen part of it, so great as to be almost manufactured. His tone was kind of like Eber's first tweet reaction. He doesn't think Adam is a violent person, so to him, it is just a humorous story. As my husband says, " it's Old West/Rock and Roll stuff- guys being guys; sometimes guys work their problems out physically. They always have. It makes Adam and Sauli kind of bad ass. And its a little bit funny because they are boyfriends." I think that is what you hear in the tone of those two DJs mentioned upthread. I was kind of interested yesterday in the way people seemed to put Sauli in the victim role of being "beaten up" when likely both men were being physical. I don't think subconsciously Adam would have gone there physically even when roaring drunk if he didn't recognize subconsciously that Sauli was able to hold his own physically. And that Is "man hugging." Anyway, love the new song, and this morning, after being fairly grumpy all day yesterday doing some not so fun errands with my husband, I thought of the lyric "sometimes I get dark, but try to see my heart," and apologized to him and thanked him for hanging with me on my good and bad days.  The lyrics are so relatable. Apparently bar brawls, which he Trying to get myself into work mode after Trauma Time yesterday but I have to thank everyone for all the news and the energy spent to keep this site up to date. I was a bit hesitant (push me/pull me) to read the headline today after my blood rush yesterday but halleluia... Love this post ! |
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Post by murly on Dec 23, 2011 11:24:47 GMT -5
I'm feeling like an idiot- why can't I find this song so that I can play it? I don't know--when I click on the link, the song is right there at the top of the page and it starts playing automatically. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2011 11:25:02 GMT -5
I'm feeling like an idiot- why can't I find this song so that I can play it? Not an idiot! The link in that quote is not working for some reason. Try this: www.z100.com/player/?station=WHTZ-FM&action=music&mid=21676900ETA: The site seems to be having some glitches now, maybe because it is getting played a lot. Just try it a few times and it should eventually come up, then leave it open for replay |
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Post by bobo on Dec 23, 2011 11:29:37 GMT -5
If you want to see what kind of hotel room A&S had (maybe still have): www.hotelkamp.fi/fi/galleryAccording to MTV3 news they stayed at that hotel. According to twitter they have been seen today in Hyvinkää (Sauli's hometown). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2011 11:36:21 GMT -5
Please scroll if this doesn’t make any sense, a month of pain pills will do things to you. Facts we may know: Adam likes to be protective of anyone he cares about Sauli was the one in the drunk tank Drunks seldom make sense Two drunks together make even less sense Adam was taking care of Sauli!  |
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Post by cassie on Dec 23, 2011 11:38:30 GMT -5
Adam getting drunk, throwing punches and being in a bar brawl seems to be connecting with a lot of men. Makes some kind of weird sense to me. I think for some it does. My own husband, a very evolved type of man, thought the story, including the beauty queen part of it, so great as to be almost manufactured. His tone was kind of like Eber's first tweet reaction. He doesn't think Adam is a violent person, so to him, it is just a humorous story. As my husband says, " it's Old West/Rock and Roll stuff- guys being guys; sometimes guys work their problems out physically. They always have. It makes Adam and Sauli kind of bad ass. And its a little bit funny because they are boyfriends." I think that is what you hear in the tone of those two DJs mentioned upthread. I was kind of interested yesterday in the way people seemed to put Sauli in the victim role of being "beaten up" when likely both men were being physical. I don't think subconsciously Adam would have gone there physically even when roaring drunk if he didn't recognize subconsciously that Sauli was able to hold his own physically. And that Is "man hugging." Anyway, love the new song, and this morning, after being fairly grumpy all day yesterday doing some not so fun errands with my husband, I thought of the lyric "sometimes I get dark, but try to see my heart," and apologized to him and thanked him for hanging with me on my good and bad days. The lyrics are so relatable. Apparently bar brawls, which he Reading this I am recalling the books by Deborah Tannen about the difference in communication in men's vs. women's cultures. Fascinating stuff, and explains a lot about how men and women can talk to one another and completely misunderstand one another. She gave examples of words that have subtly different meanings between the genders. (And, yes, I know that not EVERY person has the same definitions. She is speaking of broad, cultural concepts, not individual examples). One of the words she used was "violent,." Their meanings are similar in most aspects for both genders, but the male definition includes an additional feature that the female definition does not. "With the intent to cause harm." So, in male culture you can have a highly physical bar brawl, or heavy contact sport like hockey or football, and the action is not considered "violent" because the intent is to win the game, or win an argument, not to intentionally inflict harm or suffering on another. In female culture, that type of rough physical contact, which can end in injury, is "violent" regardless of the intent. Interesting stuff. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2011 11:39:15 GMT -5
If you want to see what kind of hotel room A&S had (maybe still have): www.hotelkamp.fi/fi/galleryAccording to MTV3 news they stayed at that hotel. According to twitter they have been seen today in Hyvinkää (Sauli's hometown). No, they were not at the Kämp. You can see that from the photo on Sauli's blog of him lying on the bed. It's another hotel right beside it. ETA: However, they were earlier seen on the Kämp Gallery shopping mall which might have led the reporters to believe they were staying at the Kämp. They are right next to each other. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2011 11:40:29 GMT -5
If you want to see what kind of hotel room A&S had (maybe still have): www.hotelkamp.fi/fi/galleryAccording to MTV3 news they stayed at that hotel. According to twitter they have been seen today in Hyvinkää (Sauli's hometown). No, they were not at the Kämp. You can see that from the photo on Sauli's blog of him lying on the bed. It's another hotel right beside it. The press never knows as much as the Ninja's!! |
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Post by cookie on Dec 23, 2011 11:42:47 GMT -5
I'm feeling like an idiot- why can't I find this song so that I can play it? Not an idiot! The link in that quote is not working for some reason. Try this: www.z100.com/player/?station=WHTZ-FM&action=music&mid=21676900ETA: The site seems to be having some glitches now, maybe because it is getting played a lot. Just try it a few times and it should eventually come up, then leave it open for replay Both links take me to the comments page. It says Adam Lambert- BTIKM at the top, but no link to the song. I'll keep trying it until I find something that works. |
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Post by bobo on Dec 23, 2011 11:44:55 GMT -5
If you want to see what kind of hotel room A&S had (maybe still have): www.hotelkamp.fi/fi/galleryAccording to MTV3 news they stayed at that hotel. According to twitter they have been seen today in Hyvinkää (Sauli's hometown). No, they were not at the Kämp. You can see that from the photo on Sauli's blog of him lying on the bed. It's another hotel right beside it. ETA: However, they were earlier seen on the Kämp Gallery shopping mall which might have led the reporters to believe they were staying at the Kämp. They are right next to each other. That's what I was wondering too. The beds aren't alike. So MTV3 has made a mistake in this article: www.mtv3.fi/viihde/uutiset/musiikki.shtml/1465459/adam-lambert-ja-sauli-koskinen-majailivat-jouluviikon-luksushotellissa |
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