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Post by koshka on Dec 23, 2011 15:31:34 GMT -5
Perez is an asshole. That's all. It's weird. I feel like there's a hate, love and jealousy in there. Either he likes Adam but Adam shut it in the first place (Adam told him only in his dream when he tweeted Adam i.e. comparing size or something). And off course now he's also jealous that Adam in relationship with a very cute guy that has 6 pack. Soo.. no hopes there for him. Or he's just jealous that Adam's so happy with Sauli now. ITA there is something weird with this guy. He always strikes me as that kid on the outside making snipes everyone so he can be seen as one of the cool kids... but no one ever does. He is just creepy to me.
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Post by nica575 on Dec 23, 2011 15:33:12 GMT -5
haven't finished reading todays posts .. got hung up on Reihmers pics ... conclusion ... I do not need more recap, rehash, review, re-whatever ... I NEED ADAM LIVE I can't wait for new concerts ... I think not even the new album will do it for me ... sigh ;-) OMG YES YES YES -- this is exactly what I've been thinking just looking the GN pics. Just to feel that energy......CAN.NOT.WAIT!!! I am with you need him live...
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Post by NoAngel on Dec 23, 2011 15:34:28 GMT -5
Perez is an asshole. That's all. It's weird. I feel like there's a hate, love and jealousy in there. Either he likes Adam but Adam shut it in the first place (Adam told him only in his dream when he tweeted Adam i.e. comparing size or something). And off course now he's also jealous that Adam in relationship with a very cute guy that has 6 pack. Soo.. no hopes there for him. Or he's just jealous that Adam's so happy with Sauli now. Yeah, that's probably right. I think jealousy is definitely part of it. I think Perez has an enormous ego that actually covers up a gigantic black hole of insecurity. I wonder how many real friends he has. :
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Dec 23, 2011 15:35:23 GMT -5
Perez is an asshole. That's all. Perez is a giant asshat suckup who loves to kick-em-when-they're-down and rejoice-when-someone-screws-up. I think he finds Adam HOT and WANTS HIM and Adam totally brushes him off for the ugly flake that he is. Anyway - I thought he said he was a changed man but now I see that he is still a big steaming pile of manure. *holdsmynose*
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Post by Zinnia on Dec 23, 2011 15:39:21 GMT -5
It's weird. I feel like there's a hate, love and jealousy in there. Either he likes Adam but Adam shut it in the first place (Adam told him only in his dream when he tweeted Adam i.e. comparing size or something). And off course now he's also jealous that Adam in relationship with a very cute guy that has 6 pack. Soo.. no hopes there for him. Or he's just jealous that Adam's so happy with Sauli now. Yeah, that's probably right. I think jealousy is definitely part of it. I think Perez has an enormous ego that actually covers up a gigantic black hole of insecurity. I wonder how many real friends he has. : Adam has everything he'd probably like to have but has no chance for lacking everything needed for that.
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Post by JanuarySnow on Dec 23, 2011 15:43:39 GMT -5
Did anyone see it? Came by absolutely accidentally in one of the comments on the article in 'The Hollywood reporter' (if I remember correctly, don't know what possessed me to read it): it was said something about the photos of Adam and Sauli arrested and there was a link - pqrnews.com/News/former-american-idol-adam-lambert-arrested-in-finland-photo/ - but I can't open the photos itself :-( It goes to this page, starcasm.net/archives/135157 which contains a totally fake mugshot pic of Adam (they say this at the bottom of the article). Otherwise there is nothing new in the article. Ah, thank you miachihu, didn't look too close at the article, so... Bad to be on the run when you try to inform people, usually I try to check everything
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Post by seoulmate on Dec 23, 2011 15:43:46 GMT -5
TOTALLY OT... but since it's a slow day, I'm just tossing this little vid out that's been making the rounds: " Digital Christmas Story". If you haven't seen it yet, it's worth a look... LOL www.flixxy.com/digital-christmas-story.htm
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Post by NoAngel on Dec 23, 2011 15:47:01 GMT -5
Yeah, that's probably right. I think jealousy is definitely part of it. I think Perez has an enormous ego that actually covers up a gigantic black hole of insecurity. I wonder how many real friends he has. : Adam has everything he'd probably like to have but has no chance for lacking everything needed for that. LOL, that about sums it up! I'd feel sorry for him except he's so mean-spirited I just can't.
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Post by cookie on Dec 23, 2011 15:48:33 GMT -5
I'm thinking Adam only needs to apologize to Sauli. Since he a decent human being, the next stop would be the bar owner and Sauli's dad. I would say that it is also entirely possible that Sauli needs to apologize to Adam, or that they both need to apologize to the other.
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Post by Q3 on Dec 23, 2011 15:48:49 GMT -5
In answer to the potential foreign (US) charges -- the Helsinki Police referred it to foreign police and they declined to press charges. But there was a referral and it was a possibility. (Not very likely based on the nature of the event.) Link: www.mtv3.fi/viihde/uutiset/musiikki.shtml/1464940/police-end-their-investigation-into-adam-lambert-and-sauli-koskinens-bar-fightChief investigator Petri Juvonen told MTV3.fi’s Entertainment News that the incident will no longer be investigated because neither party has injuries, nor have any charges been raised by any of the parties involved.
The police have dropped the investigation because any potential charges would have resulted in no more than a fine, said Juvonen.
Juvonen revealed that he has also discussed the matter with foreign police, and foreign officials will not take action regarding the incident. Juvonen confirms that the investigation has ended.
Both Adam Lambert and Sauli Koskinen have been released.Well see thats the problem. You and I see it as two guys "communicating" with each other and others (mostly in the media) immediately see it as domestic violence, where one of them is the abuser and the other the victim. In terms of the media, I'm thankful we are going into the holiday. For me, the difference is that these two guys are in a relationship together. Regardless of what kind of physical contact there was, it seems what is certain is that they were both upset. I'd feel bad about that even if it was just a verbal thing, and the fact that it got physical in some way is unfortunate, at the very least. I see a distinct difference in guys (friends/relatives/whatever) rough-housing or mock-wrestling or even getting into a minor physical altercation, and 2 guys in a relationship whose disagreement devolves into the physical. And for the record, I'm definitely not casting either one of them as the "aggessor" or "victim," since we have no idea how it went down. ITA -- this was not playful, drunken wresting. The club had set up a special VIP section for Adam and his guests. They hired a security guard to make sure fans did not disturb the party. Everything was comped. All arranged for by DMG. The owner was excited to have such a big star at his club. It is impossible for me to believe he would have decided to have the security guard and other employees make Adam and Sauli leave the club and take the argument outside for some drunken wresting. Also, no one has to step in to break up playful drunken wrestling. ---- From what I have been told by a Finnish lawyer, and I know nothing about Finnish law or any law, the reason that Sauli and Adam were taken to two different places is because Sauli is a Finn and Adam is a foreign visitor. And it had nothing to do with different levels of charges. With all the discussion of this, I have not seen anyone mention the real risk that Sauli has from US ICE. If he was convinted of our equivant of "Felony Assault", ICE could unilaterally (no hearing) revoke his visa status. And ICE gets to set the felony level.
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