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Post by agnelle on Feb 17, 2012 12:58:34 GMT -5
I'm so happy I visited the numbers thread today. I have so much appreciation for rabbitrabbit, MyS*&@^#r and others who remain positive and also encourage fans to stay positive and to do what we can such as vote for those all important spins. I saw a tweet a couple of weeks ago from a dj to fans of another person who said something along the lines of Sony monitors fan perception, and it matters. Even without that tweet, I have always believed that our collective energy matters! Yes, we're all allowed our own thoughts and feelings, but you can tell Adam so appreciates support. I think BTIKM is damn good and Adam loves it. My brother, who is a musician, heavily leans toward rock. He has always acknowledged the greatness of Adam's voice but has recently said how much he truly respects Adam as a musician now. He's now using the word phonomenal! He loves BTIKM! He wouldn't say that if he didn't. Yeah, I know that's just one person, but still. I, personally, am going to fully support this song until Adam and Sony point me in another direction. I don't know a thing about the music business or radio. I do know that radio play is important, but admittedly I have always played the music I love and haven't relied on radio since I was 12 years old. So, I have to trust RCA. I believe they know this album is HUGE and are willing to do whatever is necessary to launch it. We have no idea what their plan is, but I do believe with all my heart that there is a good one. Timing is everything. On another note, I'm lucky in that I have a very positive twitter feed by design.  I don't mind critical thinking and opinions, but I can't stand wank for the sake of wank. So, again, a huge heartfelt thank you to everyone who works so hard and is supportive!  |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Feb 17, 2012 13:10:08 GMT -5
Well, speaking of postive signs, here's what I put on the main thread... DC AND BALTIMORE PEEPS
BALTIMORE'S 106.5 (WWMX) HAS BTIKM ON THEIR REQUEST LIST. [/size] You can hear this station anywhere in Baltimore, and as far down south as DC's northern and eastern suburbs. You*might* still hear at the top of the District. DC will **not** play before Baltimore does. GO REQUEST !!!!![/quote] Baltimore is a big market. DC is a bigger market. If this revvs up, so will BTIKM in general! :D |
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Post by zowie on Feb 17, 2012 13:37:53 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure fans (me included) are worrying more about this situation than Adam is. He seems supremely happy & upbeat in all of his interviews and there's no way it is not genuine. I just don't know what to think anymore. Maybe I'm simple-minded or something, but I generally take my cues from Adam. While upbeat and positive he's pretty honest, and not that hard to read when he occasionally isn't quite as thrilled about something. Plus he and RCA have information about the picture of the whole roll-out to come (and more detailed feedback on sales and spins) that none of us have. I also trust Adam and I am happy to see people saying that continued support of BTIKM is helpful to the overall cause of supporting him as an artist and the upcoming album release. I do have a question for anyone that might know about the subject matter - and I don't mean at all for it to sound angsty; it's just something I always wondered: Does it help or hurt when fans artificially inflate sales, etc.? Does it cloud the picture about what resonates with the general public and make it harder for RCA to make good future decisions? |
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Post by stardust on Feb 17, 2012 13:58:19 GMT -5
I also trust Adam and I am happy to see people saying that continued support of BTIKM is helpful to the overall cause of supporting him as an artist and the upcoming album release. I do have a question for anyone that might know about the subject matter - and I don't mean at all for it to sound angsty; it's just something I always wondered: Does it help or hurt when fans artificially inflate sales, etc.? Does it cloud the picture about what resonates with the general public and make it harder for RCA to make good future decisions? Welcome zowie! The general consensus from people who seem to understand the music business is that fans can't really inflate the sales enough to matter. |
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Post by crazyoldgal on Feb 17, 2012 14:06:37 GMT -5
OK I won't angst anymore. My frustration lies not w the song but the spins. Stations adding aren't giving the prime time spins. Again I like the song. Look what happened when he sang on Ellen's show recently, it skyrocketed.
no spins = no hearing= no buying. So of course we angst over spins.
Hopefully soon he will be on AI and blow their socks off!
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Post by bullsfan on Feb 17, 2012 14:09:33 GMT -5
You know, there are lots of opinions out there regarding the single and how it's doing. But the one thing probably everyone can agree on is that the best thing for Adam right now would be for BTIKM to go as high as possible on the mediabase charts---whatever that may be. Obviously, if BTIKM can break into the top 15 on HAC, at least, before a new single is released (and it does sound like there is a good chance for a second single when the album drops) that would be great.
What I'm getting at is that BTIKM is the single that's out right now, and I don't think fans are going to suddenly stop caring about its progress. I'm a little disappointed and a little impatient right now (sorry) but I'm working just as hard with the U-Mix-It games and requesting and voting.
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Post by tigerlily on Feb 17, 2012 14:42:17 GMT -5
I also trust Adam and I am happy to see people saying that continued support of BTIKM is helpful to the overall cause of supporting him as an artist and the upcoming album release. I do have a question for anyone that might know about the subject matter - and I don't mean at all for it to sound angsty; it's just something I always wondered: Does it help or hurt when fans artificially inflate sales, etc.? Does it cloud the picture about what resonates with the general public and make it harder for RCA to make good future decisions? Fans really can't inflate sales by very much. I've seen different fanbases try time and again and it never makes a visible difference. The hard-core fans, compared to the hundreds of thousands of non-fans it takes to get a single or album to the top of the charts or to the platinum level, really is rather insignificant in the big picture. A few months ago there was a huge push for one of Lady Gaga's singles to try and push it from the mid 30s into the top 10. It was a heavily promoted event on facebook, twitter and fanboards. (I read about it on Pulse) I think the "little monsters" were able to move the single up 7 or 8 spots for a couple of days. Gaga's fanbase is massive and they are pretty intense and they weren't able to make a big dent on itunes. All these gifting campaigns simply don't add up to enough singles or albums sold to make a difference. Every artist with a large fanbase has these kinds of buying campaigns. The record labels know this and they are looking at the big picture. They are looking at how the millions of radio listeners are responding to a new single and if they are buying the song on itunes. |
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Post by zowie on Feb 17, 2012 14:54:32 GMT -5
I also trust Adam and I am happy to see people saying that continued support of BTIKM is helpful to the overall cause of supporting him as an artist and the upcoming album release. I do have a question for anyone that might know about the subject matter - and I don't mean at all for it to sound angsty; it's just something I always wondered: Does it help or hurt when fans artificially inflate sales, etc.? Does it cloud the picture about what resonates with the general public and make it harder for RCA to make good future decisions? Fans really can't inflate sales by very much. I've seen different fanbases try time and again and it never makes a visible difference. The hard-core fans, compared to the hundreds of thousands of non-fans it takes to get a single or album to the top of the charts or to the platinum level, really is rather insignificant in the big picture. A few months ago there was a huge push for one of Lady Gaga's singles to try and push it from the mid 30s into the top 10. It was a heavily promoted event on facebook, twitter and fanboards. (I read about it on Pulse) I think the "little monsters" were able to move the single up 7 or 8 spots for a couple of days. Gaga's fanbase is massive and they are pretty intense and they weren't able to make a big dent on itunes. All these gifting campaigns simply don't add up to enough singles or albums sold to make a difference. Every artist with a large fanbase has these kinds of buying campaigns. The record labels know this and they are looking at the big picture. They are looking at how the millions of radio listeners are responding to a new single and if they are buying the song on itunes. Thanks Tigerlily and Stardust! Your explanations make a lot of sense. |
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Post by tigerlily on Feb 17, 2012 15:39:19 GMT -5
My only real concern at the moment is the fans with twitter accounts who don't understand how radio works and now they are sending messages to DJs. (No one really knows what goes on behind the scenes with radio stations.) I've seen tweets to djs and radio stations complaining to them about having Adam for promo, but then not giving his song spins. This type of promo without spins HAPPENS ALL THE TIME! Please, Please don't harass the DJ or radio stations! BTIKM may just not fit on their playlist at this time or even in the future. Adam is doing this week of radio promo because it has been planned for weeks! The stations may be thrilled to have Adam and they would love to play more of his music, just not this song. Their ultimate responsibility is to their listeners. Have these hysterical tweeters stopped to think about the fact that Adam, RCA and the radio stations may have already discussed the fact that BTIKM does not really fit at their station at this time, but they would LOVE to play his second single if it fits better. I really believe this whole promo tour has been about album promotion and " paying it forward". This promo isn't a waste! Promo is cumulative. Adam is out there being all positive and he is looking at the overall big picture! Adam knows he has more singles coming to promote and an album coming soon. It doesn't do Adam any favors for fans to bitch and complain to DJs and radio stations! Why don't fans get this?  |
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Post by bullsfan on Feb 17, 2012 16:09:20 GMT -5
Tigerlily, I completely agree! The radio promo is bigger than just this single. Especially with Z100 which has been such a huge supporter of Adam. They may or may not end up playing BTIKM, but they will be playing Adam this era.
Radio works in strange ways. I think Adam's whole appearence at that LA KISS radio concert a couple years ago was "pay-back" for the quick WWFM add. So, it's not always clear initially what is happening with radio promo.
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