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Post by ksha518 on Feb 22, 2012 1:01:30 GMT -5
I have realized more and more how driven Adam is. I think many of us imagine reacting with hurt and devastation to hate, just wanting to go hide. But sports psychology has shown that for very driven people at the elite competitive level, there can be an energizing effect, a feeling of becoming even stronger and more powerful. Elite athletes often say that when they get a bad call or another player on the field plays unfairly, that their gut fills with anger and they are fueled with the desire for revenge. Anger and determination are very close in the psychological spectrum. Adam usually speaks with a light touch but I believe he is a person with a competitiveness so fierce that he burns to win. He is intent on showing every doubting person, everyone who treats him as if he is trespassing, that he is a man to be reckoned with. "Yeah my ass, wait'll you get a load of me"! Juniemoon, I'm late with this response, but I love this post and agree with you. Loved Adam's tweet that the haters just make him want to work harder. And he will.  |
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Post by cassie on Feb 22, 2012 1:01:42 GMT -5
I know nothing about radio play. So, this is my totally uninformed opinion. When I listen to top 40 radio hoping to hear Adam, or when I listen to the music Adam is introducing on the top 100 sexybeats or whatever else, it all tends to sound the same, with a few exceptions. And, it is not very complex musically or harmonically. At times, I can hear five songs in a row with the exact same beat and similar melodies. They all blend together until I don't know when one song ends and another begins. Don't know about the words, cuz often I can't understand them. The vocals also have a distinct, auto-tune sound.
Adam's music just doesn't sound like what I am hearing. IMO, it sounds much better, much more complex, with much better vocals and no electronic vocal enhancement. But, if the listeners' and the PDs' ears have been shaped by all the other stuff out there, Adam's songs may just not appeal. And his incredible range may also be a drawback. Most people can easily sing along with most songs on top 40 radio. Adam's songs? Not so much.
Having said that, I DO. NOT. WANT. Adam to dumb down his songs or his voice to match the crap current popular style being played ad nauseum. I can only hope that the Queen performance and a couple of funky singles will open doors to more radio play.
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Post by mszue on Feb 22, 2012 1:04:21 GMT -5
Voting... Like Adam, when things get hard, it just makes me want to work harder. I will keep putting all the effort I have time to give into making people know that Adam has fans that want to hear his music. I voted with multiple tabs etc for awhile then came back here. When I went back it 'thanked me for already voting'. It may have done that earlier and I just did not notice....why? he was down to just under 33..... ??? |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Feb 22, 2012 1:05:05 GMT -5
Adam is getting plenty of radio airtime -- what is not getting airtime is a song he recorded -- and did not write or produce. JMHO BTIKM is struggling on radio because it has no hook, has dated production and is not selling very much. Its got more of a hook than that LDR dirge-fest or half the other songs on HAC these days. The production is decent. The "not selling much" is the issue and is in a circular argument with lack of consistent radio play". [evil grin] Now show the stats saying that it isn't selling much in a city like San Fransico where it *is* getting fairly decent airplay and I might agree with a "not hooky enough to buy" theory. [looks thoughtful] Can stats like that be obtained?? |
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Post by ksha518 on Feb 22, 2012 1:05:58 GMT -5
Regardless of BTIKM's fate, Adam is destined for greatness. And we get a roller coaster ride thrown in. Yup. |
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Post by kapsiz on Feb 22, 2012 1:07:17 GMT -5
The local paper here in Phoenix ran a story today about a Queen tribute band that's coming to town, fronted by a Freddie impersonator named Gary Mullen. First of all, the story included quotes about Freddie from "noted singers" including David Bowie, Axl Rose, Katy Perry...and one Adam Lambert. (They quoted some of Adam's remarks from that NPR interview where he gave his opinion on why Freddie was great.) Anyway, according to this news story and different reports I've seen on the web, many Queen/Freddie fans regard two guys as top-notch stand-ins for Freddie: this Mullen guy and Marc Martel. I looked up both of them on YouTube. And you know what? They do sound a lot like Freddie...but in a karaoke, imitative way. There's a difference between imitating Freddie and re-interpreting his music with your own vocal spin on it - and we all know which Adam does. He hits notes these imitators (and maybe even Freddie himself) could only imagine. Could it be that some of the haters are skerred that Adam's vocals might be (haters, clutch yer pearls now) BETTER than Mr. Mercury's? Just a thought. Check out these clips of Gary Mullen and Marc Martel, and judge for yourself: should they, or Adam, be singing with Queen? Queen chose Adam - Adam is not trying to impersonate Freddie, but pay tribute to him! |
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Post by tigerlily on Feb 22, 2012 1:10:23 GMT -5
If this is true, what would explain the resistance of Canada and Europe in playing BTIKM? Are they homophobic also? BTIKM is not catching on the way WWFM or even FYE did in the countries outside of the US. Maybe the problem is the song and not the artist. If RCA could push WWFM and IIHY, why couldn't they do the same for BTIKM? YMMV but I don't think the song has had enough exposure anywhere to say that the song itself is the problem. It has barely gotten enough spins anywhere to get any kind of reliable feedback on it. Whatever the reasons and yes those reasons can be different for as many different places as there are the song isn't getting very much in the way of spins. But just given the evidence of the sales bumps after Ellen and Leno I find it hard to believe it is the song. Ellen and Leno gave respectable sales bumps much larger than those shows generally give for songs that don't also have a radio presence but there wasn't enough follow up to that to keep the song visible. But I'd like to point out that I am NOT saying that homophobia is the ONLY factor or even a MAJOR factor but to say it not having ANY effect to me is either willful blindness or wishful thinking. Racism is still a factor in our society and women have not WON the battle for equality. Yes these things are not blatant but they are still pervasive. I don't see how anyone can think homophobia has no effect on Adam's career. It is a process. For the most part, songs have to get pretty high on the CHR stations to move up the itunes chart. There aren't enough Pop radio stations playing BTIKM during the busiest listening times and there aren't enough stations adding the song to increase its presence on Pop radio. These are the same stations that didn't have a problem with adding WWFM or IIHY. If RCA releases another song that CHR will consider to be a good addition to their playlist, they will add it and play it. BTIKM just hasn't caught on with PDs in the US or other countries that previously were all over Adam's singles. The problem isn't Adam, it's the song. Time to move on to a song that Pop radio will support and this time RCA better do a more efficient job BEFORE they pick the next single! |
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Post by Q3 on Feb 22, 2012 1:14:47 GMT -5
VH1 not playing BTIKM may have more to do with RCA than VH1 --  BTIKM is not going anywhere why invest more in it. |
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Post by bullsfan on Feb 22, 2012 1:16:54 GMT -5
Maybe it is as simple as just finding a song with an insane hook. I like BTIKM, but I always felt it was a grower that didn't have an immediate impact.
Claude Kelly question---When was the last time he wrote a hit for a male singer? I know of lots of hits written for females (Domino), but when was the last one he penned for a guy?
eta---I agree that the only explanation for BTIKM not making the VH1 countdown is because RCA must have pulled support. But that sheds a whole lot of light on the validity of their countdown process.
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Post by tigerlily on Feb 22, 2012 1:19:40 GMT -5
I know nothing about radio play. So, this is my totally uninformed opinion. When I listen to top 40 radio hoping to hear Adam, or when I listen to the music Adam is introducing on the top 100 sexybeats or whatever else, it all tends to sound the same, with a few exceptions. And, it is not very complex musically or harmonically. At times, I can hear five songs in a row with the exact same beat and similar melodies. They all blend together until I don't know when one song ends and another begins. Don't know about the words, cuz often I can't understand them. The vocals also have a distinct, auto-tune sound. Adam's music just doesn't sound like what I am hearing. IMO, it sounds much better, much more complex, with much better vocals and no electronic vocal enhancement. But, if the listeners' and the PDs' ears have been shaped by all the other stuff out there, Adam's songs may just not appeal. And his incredible range may also be a drawback. Most people can easily sing along with most songs on top 40 radio. Adam's songs? Not so much. Having said that, I DO. NOT. WANT. Adam to dumb down his songs or his voice to match the crap current popular style being played ad nauseum. I can only hope that the Queen performance and a couple of funky singles will open doors to more radio play. Pop radio is mostly uptempo songs from the Pop divas or vocal/rap collabs. There are other songs that make it onto the top of the Pop charts that don't follow this formula: most of Bruno's songs, Christina Perri's songs, Gavin Degraw's song, all of Adele's songs, and Kelly Clarkson's songs. It is possible for a singer to have a hit song, there's just not as much room for them at the top because there are so many dance/rap/collab songs in the top 20. Q3: I agree. RCA has pulled the plug on BTIKM. That's the reason a song with a bullet of 120 went to 0 in one week's time and the reason VH1 stopped their support of the video. It's time to move on to a new single. |
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