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Post by gbam on Mar 20, 2012 10:29:17 GMT -5
gbam! WELCOME!!!!!!!!!  Love that you have joined us and your views are interetsing, but this one, I have to disagree! No, do not think this has anything to do with the song. Once again, the US PDs played WWFM and that was right after the AMAs which was a much bigger deal than the Finland incident. BTW, some of the most conservative areas in the country have added BTIKM and added it early. It is the bigger markets (like NY and Atlanta) that are coming in more slowly. Yes, some of the smaller might have added it alright, but how much are they playing it? To tell you it is not as simple as that, let a major market like Z100 add it today and you would see how the spin increase from those smaller market starts. Do you not know it has more stations than some of the songs charting above it on POP? So the question remains why do those songs have higher spin counts than him. We are just lucky Sirius Hits is on board, otherwise the spins would be lower than that. They are giving him almost the 2/3 of his spins on POP. How would you explain this? As for the AMAs, that was a totally different incident. Adam was able to get sympathy as being persecuted on the basis of his sexuality from people. That was totally different from the domestic violence spin a section of the press gave the Finnish incident in my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 10:35:03 GMT -5
The sympathy in the US, after the AMAs was far outshadowed by the haters. Even though the hate was a smaller amount, they were much more vocal.
Of course, an add by Z100 would be wonderful and ensure a hit. But IMO, it is the song Z100 doesn't like. My point about the smaller, conservative markets was not about how many spins they generate. It was the fact that they have backed the song and played it. Generally, HAC is much more conservative than CHR. It is not HAC where Adam is having a problem getting adds and spins. It is the CHR market. And I believe it is just because they do not like this song.
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Post by JazzRocks on Mar 20, 2012 10:49:51 GMT -5
Since we're talking about the song I think this may be relevant. I don't know anything about this blog - does anyone? Is it US or UK? Either way this is scathing & I would never link it up in the News thread. unrealityshout.com/blogs/single-review-adam-lambert-better-i-know-myselfOk - I see it's UK. And it's a soapbox-type site. The blogger slams other artists & seems to like UK Reality alumni and boy bands. lol So grain of salt & all. But I do agree with the "flatulent synth progression" part. But not the rest. It's ugly. |
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Post by gbam on Mar 20, 2012 10:52:29 GMT -5
The sympathy in the US, after the AMAs was far outshadowed by the haters. Even though the hate was a smaller amount, they were much more vocal. Of course, an add by Z100 would be wonderful and ensure a hit. But IMO, it is the song Z100 doesn't like. My point about the smaller, conservative markets was not about how many spins they generate. It was the fact that they have backed the song and played it. Generally, HAC is much more conservative than CHR. It is not HAC where Adam is having a problem getting adds and spins. It is the CHR market. And I believe it is just because they do not like this song. The haters were vocal, but there was a public outcry about their action. It brought on a discussion that swayed (?) the public sympathy with Adam. Totally different from what happened in Finland. Can you link how many articles were written to support him on the Finland incident? Do you how many were written during the AMAs? What about the television programmes that focused on that topic And how it was a blatant discrimination, some even referencing the Madonna/Britney kiss to proof that fact etc? As for HAC, I assure you he would have even climbed faster if the major Markets on that format or POP was on board. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 11:03:51 GMT -5
The sympathy in the US, after the AMAs was far outshadowed by the haters. Even though the hate was a smaller amount, they were much more vocal. Of course, an add by Z100 would be wonderful and ensure a hit. But IMO, it is the song Z100 doesn't like. My point about the smaller, conservative markets was not about how many spins they generate. It was the fact that they have backed the song and played it. Generally, HAC is much more conservative than CHR. It is not HAC where Adam is having a problem getting adds and spins. It is the CHR market. And I believe it is just because they do not like this song. The haters were vocal, but there was a public outcry about their action. It brought on a discussion that swayed (?) the public sympathy with Adam. Totally different from what happened in Finland. Can you link how many articles were written to support him on the Finland incident? Do you how many were written during the AMAs? What about the television programmes that focused on that topic And how it was a blatant discrimination, some even referencing the Madonna/Britney kiss to proof that fact etc? As for HAC, I assure you he would have even climbed faster if the major Markets on that format or POP was on board. The Finland incident was a celebrity news item, done and over in about a week or 2. There are 10s of these a day hitting the gossip sites. It did not cause even close to the sensationalism that the AMAs brought. That went on for over a year. We are going to have to disagree on this one. I do not think the Finland incident has anything to do with Adam's radio play. Nothing. ETA: I think the next single will hit hard. I think they WILL pick a great CHR song this time. And, Z100 will jump on board quickly. |
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Post by JazzRocks on Mar 20, 2012 11:14:50 GMT -5
Are we expecting any Top 40 adds today?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 11:28:43 GMT -5
I don't think so, because I think if he would not have been that talented, he wouldn't even have made it to the televised auditions on AI. And even if, I probably wouldn't be here, because it was his voice I initially fell in love with. Are you forgetting how far Sanjaya made it? He made it to 7th place... He's released a few EPs that went nowhere. he's appeared on I'm a celebrity Get me out of here with the likes of Heidi Montage and Spenser Pratt... He's not exactly burning up the media with credibility or good will. I'm not sure why anyone would compare Adam to Sanjaya to be honest.  |
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Post by aralid on Mar 20, 2012 11:30:11 GMT -5
The sympathy in the US, after the AMAs was far outshadowed by the haters. Even though the hate was a smaller amount, they were much more vocal. Of course, an add by Z100 would be wonderful and ensure a hit. But IMO, it is the song Z100 doesn't like. My point about the smaller, conservative markets was not about how many spins they generate. It was the fact that they have backed the song and played it. Generally, HAC is much more conservative than CHR. It is not HAC where Adam is having a problem getting adds and spins. It is the CHR market. And I believe it is just because they do not like this song. The haters were vocal, but there was a public outcry about their action. It brought on a discussion that swayed (?) the public sympathy with Adam. Totally different from what happened in Finland. Can you link how many articles were written to support him on the Finland incident? Do you how many were written during the AMAs? What about the television programmes that focused on that topic And how it was a blatant discrimination, some even referencing the Madonna/Britney kiss to proof that fact etc? As for HAC, I assure you he would have even climbed faster if the major Markets on that format or POP was on board. I agree with you on everything you said, but not on the finnish incident. I there were only a few claiming it was domestic abuse. TMZ, PH. But I thought it just came across quiet ridiculous. Of course those who wanted to believe it did, but those one are not relevant as they will see something wrong in everything Adam does. They would even claim he cannot sing just because he did not hit a note once. But I think it made some guys think that Adam is just a guy like them, not the gay, OTT and eyeliner wearing guy, a guy to whom they actually can relate to. These are the ones that are important, these are the ones he could win over as fans, because they are open-minded enough to give him a chance. I'm not saying it was good what happened, but in the aftermath it wasn't bad either IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 11:33:24 GMT -5
The incident in finland, IMO, has NO impact on whether Adam's song is getting played on radio or not.
It was back in December, he cleared up what happened not to mention they play Chris Brown on the same stations that someone is claiming won't play Adam for a "domestic" dispute...come on.
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Post by bullsfan on Mar 20, 2012 11:37:12 GMT -5
Stardust, I'm glad you said something, because with the news that there are 2 (maybe 3) last minute songs I am worried that the whole concept of the album (which Adam seemed so proud of) could be lost. I watched that early interview with Lyndsey Parker where Adam described how cohesive the album was rather than a "collection of singles" as he put it. I am a little worried that the funky uniqueness will be gone in favor of a bunch of radio songs.
And I like radio songs and want Adam to have a hit---just feels like RCA has sent him back to the drawing board. (and I know I am being overly dramatic) , but I am starting to have a little trouble understanding what exactly is going on with this album.
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