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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 11:44:38 GMT -5
Are we expecting any Top 40 adds today? Trying to find out but saga has not updated. Looks like there is a new spinner in Richmond WRVQ? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 11:54:07 GMT -5
A hit in the US would guarantee you a hit accross the world. That is why it is always easier for US markets to hit accross the world and not the other way round. Otherwise there would be many international artists from Asia, Africa, Australia and EU scorring big hits in the States. Apart from US pds love for UK artists who are mainly the exception, that is not often the case. If that were true the Idols who have so much success in the US would also find succcess internationally and really only Kelly and Adam have found a stable and consistent market for their music outside of the US and it's not because they have hits in the US but rather because they make music that appeals to audiences outside the US. This theory is so strange when considering the success Adam found outside the US for WWFM and IIHY which easily went top 5 or higher in multiple countries and didn't even reach top 10 on US pop radio. This was last updated 9/10/10 but gives a good snapshot nonetheless adamlamberttv.blogspot.com/2010/09/adams-worldwide-certifications-and.htmlCanada stopped playing FYE because they switched to another single, namely WWFM. Adam's success in smaller countries would directly contradict this notion that he has to hit in one to hit in another. |
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Post by aralid on Mar 20, 2012 11:55:17 GMT -5
Stardust, I'm glad you said something, because with the news that there are 2 (maybe 3) last minute songs I am worried that the whole concept of the album (which Adam seemed so proud of) could be lost. I watched that early interview with Lyndsey Parker where Adam described how cohesive the album was rather than a "collection of singles" as he put it. I am a little worried that the funky uniqueness will be gone in favor of a bunch of radio songs. I'm worrying a little bit about that, too. I somehow think, he had a meeting with his label last week and they wanted to have the song - which he has recorded over the weekend in Chicago - on the album. But that is not necessarily bad, I think. Maybe it is a song for the deluxe version or, with 40-50 songs to choose from, it could be that Adam oversaw a better fitting song or something like that. |
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Post by stardust on Mar 20, 2012 11:57:58 GMT -5
I don't expect many adds from Top40 today but there are several new spinners. There is only one station spinning enough to auto-add and it is unmonitored.
KKSW-FM Act 19 Top 40 Topeka, KS 19/RCA Great Plains Media 200
May be a quiet day.
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Post by JazzRocks on Mar 20, 2012 12:08:01 GMT -5
Stardust, I'm glad you said something, because with the news that there are 2 (maybe 3) last minute songs I am worried that the whole concept of the album (which Adam seemed so proud of) could be lost. I watched that early interview with Lyndsey Parker where Adam described how cohesive the album was rather than a "collection of singles" as he put it. I am a little worried that the funky uniqueness will be gone in favor of a bunch of radio songs. And I like radio songs and want Adam to have a hit---just feels like RCA has sent him back to the drawing board. (and I know I am being overly dramatic) , but I am starting to have a little trouble understanding what exactly is going on with this album. Jeez - I'm trying not to think Cook 2.0. But it creeps into my head now & then. It's creeping in now with the "back to the drawing board" phrase. I know, I know, Adam's music is much more relevant than Cooks & what we have heard of the album sounds really awesome. But it's RCA so I get nervous and it seems as though he's switched direction a few times already. I think we all want this to be the album Adam wanted it to be. The one he was is so proud of. There are some great potential singles there so RCA - keep your f**kin' fingers off. |
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Post by gbam on Mar 20, 2012 12:12:41 GMT -5
The haters were vocal, but there was a public outcry about their action. It brought on a discussion that swayed (?) the public sympathy with Adam. Totally different from what happened in Finland. Can you link how many articles were written to support him on the Finland incident? Do you how many were written during the AMAs? What about the television programmes that focused on that topic And how it was a blatant discrimination, some even referencing the Madonna/Britney kiss to proof that fact etc? As for HAC, I assure you he would have even climbed faster if the major Markets on that format or POP was on board. The Finland incident was a celebrity news item, done and over in about a week or 2. There are 10s of these a day hitting the gossip sites. It did not cause even close to the sensationalism that the AMAs brought. That went on for over a year. We are going to have to disagree on this one. I do not think the Finland incident has anything to do with Adam's radio play. Nothing. ETA: I think the next single will hit hard. I think they WILL pick a great CHR song this time. And, Z100 will jump on board quickly. No, that was not just a celebrity news and is totally different from what hits the celebrity news outlets everyday, otherwise Adam would not have bothered explaining what actually happened as much as he did. The Gaga stuff which was greatly ignored fits more the definition of celebrity news. And I am hoping with you the PDs let him have a hit with his next single. He totally deserves that chance again and I am keeping my fingers crossed by the way. Oops! I remembered you or someone else talking about radio burn out with reality products. How come Chris Rene and the One Direction boys are enjoying decent radio play? In fact the 1 Direction are totally smashing it. Hope you wouldn't say it is the power of the teens since even Bieber and the Jonas at the height of their popularity never smashed this way. And they had album and concert sales to back that popularity, yet radio was never on board. The highest a Bieber song went was top 15 on POP. That is another proof of radio politics. |
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Post by FanOfTheMan on Mar 20, 2012 12:21:44 GMT -5
The haters were vocal, but there was a public outcry about their action. It brought on a discussion that swayed (?) the public sympathy with Adam. Totally different from what happened in Finland. Can you link how many articles were written to support him on the Finland incident? Do you how many were written during the AMAs? What about the television programmes that focused on that topic And how it was a blatant discrimination, some even referencing the Madonna/Britney kiss to proof that fact etc? As for HAC, I assure you he would have even climbed faster if the major Markets on that format or POP was on board. The Finland incident was a celebrity news item, done and over in about a week or 2. There are 10s of these a day hitting the gossip sites. It did not cause even close to the sensationalism that the AMAs brought. That went on for over a year. We are going to have to disagree on this one. I do not think the Finland incident has anything to do with Adam's radio play. Nothing. ETA: I think the next single will hit hard. I think they WILL pick a great CHR song this time. And, Z100 will jump on board quickly. I think the Finnish incident fallout was miniscule compared to the AMAs. I believe he still feels the negative impact from that unfortunate performance careerwise and perhaps always will. |
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Post by gbam on Mar 20, 2012 12:26:31 GMT -5
The haters were vocal, but there was a public outcry about their action. It brought on a discussion that swayed (?) the public sympathy with Adam. Totally different from what happened in Finland. Can you link how many articles were written to support him on the Finland incident? Do you how many were written during the AMAs? What about the television programmes that focused on that topic And how it was a blatant discrimination, some even referencing the Madonna/Britney kiss to proof that fact etc? As for HAC, I assure you he would have even climbed faster if the major Markets on that format or POP was on board. I agree with you on everything you said, but not on the finnish incident. I there were only a few claiming it was domestic abuse. TMZ, PH. But I thought it just came across quiet ridiculous. Of course those who wanted to believe it did, but those one are not relevant as they will see something wrong in everything Adam does. They would even claim he cannot sing just because he did not hit a note once. But I think it made some guys think that Adam is just a guy like them, not the gay, OTT and eyeliner wearing guy, a guy to whom they actually can relate to. These are the ones that are important, these are the ones he could win over as fans, because they are open-minded enough to give him a chance. I'm not saying it was good what happened, but in the aftermath it wasn't bad either IMO. Yes it might have just mattered to a few haters, but how are you sure some radio PDs or corporations were not some of those haters? Most of these people are straight guys with their conservative views. Any allibi to proof the gay is a violent pervert? And it was just not on TMZ and Perez, it was on all the entertainment news across the world. Even after the incident had died down, Finland was still going on about it with magazine prints. Fans were just smart enough to not help give it a second wind in the news by keeping Finland attempt at a second round in-house. If you want to believe it was just limited to Perez and TMZ, how come he was constantly asked about until very recently in all his single round interviews? |
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Mar 20, 2012 12:26:44 GMT -5
Stardust, I'm glad you said something, because with the news that there are 2 (maybe 3) last minute songs I am worried that the whole concept of the album (which Adam seemed so proud of) could be lost. I watched that early interview with Lyndsey Parker where Adam described how cohesive the album was rather than a "collection of singles" as he put it. I am a little worried that the funky uniqueness will be gone in favor of a bunch of radio songs. And I like radio songs and want Adam to have a hit---just feels like RCA has sent him back to the drawing board. (and I know I am being overly dramatic) , but I am starting to have a little trouble understanding what exactly is going on with this album. I think you are being overly dramatic. ;D Adam was asked about if early responses to songs and early reviews made him change his direction at all and he responded something like it reinforced that he was on the right track. Some songs may get bumped onto Deluxe edition bonus tracks for new and better songs, but with the fact that at most we are talking 3 new songs, I doubt the songs fans have heard about and are excited for will be dropped. If it ends up not being equal numbers of angsty and happy songs, so what? The album concept still remains intact, and listeners are basically going to care a) are the songs great, b) do they sound good together. As long as that happens, which Adam and RCA are both working for I'm sure, it's all good. |
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Post by tigerlily on Mar 20, 2012 12:32:46 GMT -5
So does it pay to write songs for radio's whims, It's like trying to please a spoiled child. There has to be an alternative to this power hungry,make or break power that radio has, but what is it???????????????????? When you think about all the challenges Adam has to get his songs on radio,it kind of reminds me of how he describes old love affairs that hurt him. He Keeps coming back for more, even though it hurts. It just shows how determined Adam is to get his voice and his music out there. Makes me want to have two more hands so that I can vote even more . I want so much for Adam to become world famous, & radio be damned.I can only wish...LOL To top off this radio stuff,Adam has to sell enough cds in order to be able to fund a tour.. Geez.. It always comes back to RADIO, isn't it? According to Adam, you cannot write song for radio's whims though since it says it is not about the quality of the song, but radio directors. I am sure he is playing a bit of their politics. He is probably working his way around them so that they find him pleasing enough to add his songs on their playlists. And here is hoping it works out for him eventually. It is such a tough business and I sometimes feel so sorry for him. Some artists like Katy are sure any crap they spill out would be spun every 30 mins no matter what. The funniest thing is most of the artists they spin cannot sell cds to save their lives even with all the exposure. How many cds do Derulo, Pitbull, Guetta and co sell for constantly being exposed to millions of music buyers everyday??? Radio doesn't seem to care about this thou unfortunately. They would spin who they want and not necessarily what their audience crave for. There are so many assumptions that are off with your last three posts, I don't even know where to start.  What country are you from? If you don't live here, how can you understand the radio here? How can you understand the mentality of Pop radio listeners in the US? Yes, Kelly's MKIA is a better fit for US Pop radio Than BTIKM is. It consistently stayed in the top 30 or above on itunes. It is still hanging on on HAC and Pop and will be one of those recurrent songs that gets played on a regular basis. Katy is spun because she writes songs that are catchy as hell and that Pop listeners immediately are attracted to. Radio is, in no way, having to force her songs on their listeners. Katy is an older Pop artists, who has paid her dues, and just happens to be one that can write catchy Pop songs with amazing hooks and lyrics that many can relate to. Katy sells singles and albums. Bruno sells singles and albums. Gaga sells singles and albums. Even Kesha sells singles and albums. Not everyone on Pop radio is only a singles seller. The majority of the "singles sellers" are ethnic men. j/s |
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