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Post by rabbitrabbit on Mar 19, 2012 10:54:14 GMT -5
Flailing about great adds to wake up to!  and quickly leaving the thread after that...
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Post by tigerlily on Mar 19, 2012 10:59:09 GMT -5
"Has Canada and all the European countries suddenly decided they won't play a song from a gay artists?" Juts because I live in Canada but I am originally from Europe I have to make a remark. I agree about Canada and disagree about the all European countries part. BTIK has been doing pretty well in Eastern Europe. My observations are BTIKM has been present very well in various radio and MV charts in Hungary, Russia, Belorussia, Greece (not in Eastern Europe), Ukraine, and Bulgaria. In some cases even better than WWFM, e.g, in Bulgaria and Greece. BTIKM hasn't come close to the positions WWFM held on the itunes charts for the amount of time it held those positions. There is proff of that. BTIKM could be doing better in a couple of small countries, but it isn't in the bigger countries where WWFM did well last era. NO!!! Daughtry's latest song has ZERO radio presence on HAC and CHR and doesn't have a single early add in any format. Daughtry's last song didn't do anything on CHR, either. I don't know where people got the idea that Daughtry has done anything on CHR this era! ??? |
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Post by JazzRocks on Mar 19, 2012 10:59:46 GMT -5
I for one remember the uphill battle very well ! In spite of the fact that the 2 top 40 stations in my area (Q102 Philly & B104 Allentown) strongly supported him. In fact B104 had IIHY #1 on their playlist for a long time. Different story this era unfortunately. Both added BTIKM but not playing much. I'll be surprised frankly if nal's song gets a lot of early support since his last two releases were not successful at all. So, your top 40 stations strongly supported Adam last era, to the point of having IIHY as #1 on one of the stations, but they aren't supporting BTIKM even though they added it? How does that say "gay problem" instead of "song problem"? Good question. & I don't know the answer. Just checked their playlist (B104) & BTIKM keeps falling every week - #44 now. Maybe it's the song, maybe it's the initial timing problem with RCA or maybe it's the fact that we got a new PD. I don't know. So perhaps peeps are right & BTIKM is not a great CHR song? But B104 plays lots of HAC-type songs and BTIKM would definitely fit. I guess we wait & see how single #2 does, assuming they will pick a CHR-friendly one. |
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Mar 19, 2012 11:05:40 GMT -5
...oh wait, one fun tidbit: Looks like that Adam impersonator on Portuguese speaking TV gave WWFM an itunes bump, #9 in Portugal in overall itunes :D adaminradioland.wordpress.com/ |
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Post by melliemom on Mar 19, 2012 11:20:35 GMT -5
I'm repeating what Adam himself said.. to paraphrase It's hard for a gay singer with conservative radio.
So you might want to check up on what Adam has said to the foreign press, start with Sweden,go onto England.That doesn't mean that BTIKM is radio's favorite song.. Just saying that Adam has to work harder to get himself on the radio.
I said some folks don't remember that it was an uphill battle to get the first two songs on the air. I would show you Adam's quotes,but I don't know how to do it.
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Post by JazzRocks on Mar 19, 2012 11:22:55 GMT -5
I deleted my earlier post. Reassessed and didn't think it belonged here. Also - I don't want to be accused of being negative - yet again.  ETA CHange "negative" to "angsty" above. I'm rarely negative but I DO angst from time to time. |
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Post by rihannsu on Mar 19, 2012 11:25:32 GMT -5
ETA: Jazz I deleted the quote since you deleted your post. Most of the radio interviews that he did during tour last year he was not wearing heavy makeup and he did wear casual clothes. He wore make for those interviews that were done close to stage time or that were televised. For most television appearances make up is done by the show's make-up people and hell Bono wears just as much make-up for TV performances as Adam has done and funny thing is he has never received the kind of negative comments about it that Adam has. Rock stars have been wearing eyeliner for 30 years or more so why was/is it such a big fucking deal with Adam. Because he is openly gay the make-up suddenly becomes objectionable. No matter how hard one tries Adam's sexuality cannot be erased from the equation. The fact that he is openly gay creates a certain base perception in people's minds whether that is positive or negative depends on the person. Just as a person being Christian puts a base perception in people's minds according to their perception of Christians as a whole. Even people who would never consider themselves prejudiced in any way will form preconceived notions about individuals based on things they know about them. We ALL make generalizations ALL the time based on our life experiences. There is no way possible to completely eliminate the gay factor. But just because someone brings up his sexuality as a factor does not automatically mean they are saying it is the only factor. I think it is perfectly reasonable to assume that being openly gay still creates an uphill battle in winning over people who have preconceived notions about gays. It becomes a barrier because many people DON'T want to look past it to see the individual. One can no more say that WWFM being a hit erased the barriers due to sexuality than one can say the Obama's election erased all barriers due to race. |
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Post by wingsofbutterflies on Mar 19, 2012 11:29:11 GMT -5
"Has Canada and all the European countries suddenly decided they won't play a song from a gay artists?" Juts because I live in Canada but I am originally from Europe I have to make a remark. I agree about Canada and disagree about the all European countries part. BTIKM has been doing pretty well in Eastern Europe. My observations are BTIKM has been present very well in various radio and MV charts in Hungary, Russia, Belorussia, Greece (not in Eastern Europe), Ukraine, and Bulgaria. In some cases even better than WWFM, e.g, in Bulgaria and Greece. BTIKM hasn't come close to the positions WWFM held on the itunes charts for the amount of time it held those positions. There is proff of that. BTIKM could be doing better in a couple of small countries, but it isn't in the bigger countries where WWFM did well last era. My comment wasn't on the single sales in those a few countries. Yes, BTIKM sales are far form WWFM iTunes positions in Western and Northern Europe where WWFM was a really big hit. I wrote that the Eastern European countries anyway contribute very, very small sales to have a noticeable effect on the global performance of BTIKM sale-wise. Living until age of 32 in Bulgaria I know that the presence of Adam on Eastern European radio is a MUCH BIGGER DEAL than some of us fans realize. And it speaks very well for this era and his future presence in those countries. |
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Post by melliemom on Mar 19, 2012 11:32:50 GMT -5
ETA: Jazz I deleted the quote since you deleted your post. Most of the radio interviews that he did during tour last year he was not wearing heavy makeup and he did wear casual clothes. He wore make for those interviews that were done close to stage time or that were televised. For most television appearances make up is done by the show's make-up people and hell Bono wears just as much make-up for TV performances as Adam has done and funny thing is he has never received the kind of negative comments about it that Adam has. Rock stars have been wearing eyeliner for 30 years or more so why was/is it such a big fucking deal with Adam. Because he is openly gay the make-up suddenly becomes objectionable. No matter how hard one tries Adam's sexuality cannot be erased from the equation. The fact that he is openly gay creates a certain base perception in people's minds whether that is positive or negative depends on the person. Just as a person being Christian puts a base perception in people's minds according to their perception of Christians as a whole. Even people who would never consider themselves prejudiced in any way will form preconceived notions about individuals based on things they know about them. We ALL make generalizations ALL the time based on our life experiences. There is no way possible to completely eliminate the gay factor. But just because someone brings up his sexuality as a factor does not automatically mean they are saying it is the only factor. I think it is perfectly reasonable to assume that being openly gay still creates an uphill battle in winning over people who have preconceived notions about gays. It becomes a barrier because many people DON'T want to look past it to see the individual. One can no more say that WWFM being a hit erased the barriers due to sexuality than one can say the Obama's election erased all barriers due to race. AMEN.. say it loud and say it often. I couldn't agree more. It's like the analogy of women trying to break that good old glass ceiling, They have to dance better ,backwards and in high heels. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2012 11:36:00 GMT -5
At the risk of posting something controversial, I think the biggest roadblock Adam has, for radio, and popular appeal is that he is a white male trying to break into a genre dominated by beautiful, sexy Pop divas. Look at the males in Pop and they are either in groups (LMFAO) or are R&B crossovers.
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