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Post by LindaG23 on Apr 7, 2012 23:09:55 GMT -5
Sorry burrito. Sobriety is a bitch, here let me try to help again, this time with pretty colors.   |
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Post by mirages on Apr 7, 2012 23:10:22 GMT -5
[ - In honor of Mirages posting again, I will mention this site I like. It is gay/lesbian themed but I just like the choice of poetry and pairing w/old photos. (Mirages likes poetry just to clarify.) woolfandwilde.com/category/imagined-histories/Awww, Mika ... To be remembered at all, and then in such a lovely fashion! I went straight to the site and found this poem. (Adam tie-in coming, really!): Thy voice, as tender as the light
That shivers low at eve -
Thy hair, where myriad flashes bright
Do in and outward weave -
Thy charms in their diversity
Half frighten and astonish me.
Thine eyes, that hold a mirth subdued
Like deep pools scattering fire -
Mine dare not meet them in their mood,
For fear of my desire,
Lest thou that secret do descry
Which evermore I must deny.
Hard is the world that does not give
To every love a place;
Hard is the power that bids us live
A life bereft of grace -
Hard, hard to lose thy figure, dear,
My star and my religion here!
Text: To a Friend, James Fenimore Cooper (1789-1851)So, Adam? Well, of course there's "Thy voice, as tender as the light/ That shivers low at eve -" except of course when it's shattering glass, bringing the house down or making our atoms wriggle in ecstatic harmonic resonance. And then there's "Thine eyes, that hold a mirth subdued/ Like deep pools scattering fire -" well, enough said. But it was "Hard is the world that does not give/ To every love a place;" that really brought Adam to mind ... Or, rather, what he expressed, equally beautifully, in OoL. Maybe the world is finally ready to listen. Thank you! |
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Post by Craazyforadam on Apr 7, 2012 23:12:58 GMT -5
So I get here and find 28 pages and I think oh something magical has happened and I start reading and I find myself in the middle of English-301 or something  and I am laughing out loud and decide to keep this sentence starting with 'so' and I leave out all the commas and everybody can tell me where to put the semicolons and apostrophe-es and stuff like why the spell-check wants me to write apostrophe-es for multiple ' ' ' and underlines this word in red, if I do not comply with its (!) wishes. ;D ;D ;D You guys are hilarious and thanks for putting so many wonderful but unintentional mistakes into your expose-es (?) on grammar, it made it so much more fun that way.  I'll join your club, me likey. Any newcomers who have the tough fortune of joining us today will probably be scarred for life, but if you happen to still be reading here, please stay. You would not want to miss out on such wonderful topics as 'how to fold bedsheets' or 'bull semen', would you? We DO talk about Adam most of the time, though, promise! Adam is still scheduled to be in Moscow, and while my Russian is rudimentary at best, I am pretty certain that the city of Moscow in Russian is pronounced MusKVA, with the accent on the second syllable and a short English-only 'u' sound like in 'bus' or 'hut' (and not the 'u' sound used in 'put' or 'o' sound as in 'pot') in the first syllable. English is actually in its grammar fairly logical, whether you believe it or not, but its spelling is totally out of control (as the example of <hut, but, put> just woefully demonstrated). It also is out of sync with almost all other indo-european languages, which makes it very difficult to give phonetic explanations. For my German trained eyes and ears it is very difficult to transcribe the short 'a' sound with the letter 'u' and of course in this case, it is the English that is out of step with the rest of the indo-european world (and I get the impression from what I have so far learned here that Finnish is in this case aligned with the more common indo-european use of letters rather than with the way the English language does things. So, back to MusKVA. I am actually more surprised that the accent got shifted than that this 'cow' business was added. 'kv' together is not normal for English or many other tongues, so vowels got added. The French say Moscou, with 'ou' pronounced as in English 'soup' and the accent is on the second syllable like the Russian, but then to French ears that is normal. But German strangly does the same thing English does and shifts the accent to the front and goes back to 'o' as in 'often' and btw also makes that 'ow' sound (written Moskau in German). Now while English is known to do wildly anything with pronunciation to all kinds of names, this is not quite so normal for the German language. Germans will try to adhere to pronunciation customary in the native language and will try to get as close as their German tongues allow it to be (there are exceptions of course, i.e. Mailand for Milano, but these are exceptions to the rule and can be blamed on the Italians anyways). Normally, the Germans don't change the accent and vowels around like that. So, this Moscow pronunciation may be one where the English are for once not guilty of creating wrong sounds. They probably inherited them from somewhere. But I have no idea what that chain of phonetic events might have been. But I do recall that Adam picked up on that difference and in one interview pronounced Muskva phonetically correct. He may not know where Scotland is or Belfast for that matter, but he does pick up on sounds very quickly. The few words of German I have ever heard him speak were amazingly close to a typical German pronunciation. Others have reported the same from other languages too. He does have a good ear. And for a rock star this is far more important than geography (assuming he does not attempt to get a pilot's license, of course - lol) |
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Post by ksha518 on Apr 7, 2012 23:13:25 GMT -5
OMG, these are amazing!! And I also love the side view photo where he's walking and you can see the pants/~ass scarf more clearly, lol. I haven't been able to read through the whole thread yet today, but I enjoyed what I read of the discussion of grammar and pet peeves. I was an English major once upon a time, but I don't remember the labels for all the parts of speech or many of the rules of grammar. I can't talk about it at all! However, I've internalized it. I have a feel for the way words are used, and I tend to google anything that seems questionable as I'm writing. At the same time, I kind of love the freedom and expressiveness of the new usages and patterns that are developing from email, twitter, etc. And I'm not sure where it came from, but I'm also addicted to the slash (/) (see above) because I always have multiple thoughts going around in my head and I sometimes hate having to choose just one word/thought, so the slash allows me to use two. I'm not sure that's a very positive thing; it's probably kind of lazy and indecisive of me. (I love semi-colons!) My personal pet peeves have already been mentioned by others. It annoys me to see *its* and *it's* used almost interchangeably, and the misuse of *affect* and *effect* is equally annoying to me. But my annoyance is on a pretty low level. I think spellcheck (which I stubbornly refuse to use) and autocorrect are partially responsible for increasing word misuse. Oh -- another peeve -- "all of the sudden" instead of "all of a sudden". My own kids were guilty of that, and I think they still are. Apparently I was never able to influence them on that point! Cassie, your post of *proposed* language changes was jaw-dropping for both its creativity, its precision, and its humor. I'm impressed! As others have said, language is always evolving, and the speed at which that is happening is increasing due to technology and social media. Anyway, blah blah blah. :  There I go again, putting my undisciplined thinking and writing out there for all to see. Good thing it's late. ;D |
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Post by LindaG23 on Apr 7, 2012 23:17:50 GMT -5
But it was " Hard is the world that does not give/ To every love a place;" that really brought Adam to mind ... Or, rather, what he expressed, equally beautifully, in OoL. Maybe the world is finally ready to listen. Thank you! What a beautifully poignant line. And with that, good night. |
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Post by ksha518 on Apr 7, 2012 23:18:00 GMT -5
The talk about backup singers is stirring up my memory banks. Remember the backup duo on the AI tour? AFL would squeeze between the two of them and try to engage them but they looked totally confused by the interaction. I loved when Adam did that!! LOVED!! By the later performances of the tour, he had them totally cracking up. It was great. |
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Post by mirages on Apr 7, 2012 23:18:25 GMT -5
Thanks, though he is no laughing matter and he is "walking the walk"! I was just visualizing Adam at the pool drink in hand, and here we are sweating semi-colons.  8-) So long as we're not picturing him in the aqua you-know-what's. Eta: ACK! Just caught up with my post and ... Bad iPad inserted that @&&$?!" apostrophe in "you-know-whats" ... Yep, it just tried to do it again! Apparently iPads have a mission to avenge grammatical hubris!
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Post by durberville on Apr 7, 2012 23:19:17 GMT -5
most probably this has been posted but I just found it and it is wonderful: I hadn't seen that nica....thank you! |
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Post by burrito on Apr 7, 2012 23:21:10 GMT -5
oh, oh, oh! I remembered what I wanted to say two posts ago! I wanted to remind everyone that the song "Trespassing" has been my favorite since I first heard the spliced-together version from somewhere (I can't remember where) because it's his anthem! If I WERE of sound mind, I would search for my post and re-post it. Crap, I'm gun-shy now about my grammar and punctuation. I think I might be good at it (grammar and punctuation) if I WERE sober, but hell's bells, I don't post when I'm sober. Anyhoo, (yes, damn it I know that's not a word) I wish I could remember what I said before because it summed up my feelings about the song. I honestly, genuinely, heartfeltedly (crap, squiggly lines under that last word but what the hey, it makes my point!) believe that this song will be his signature song. First on my bucket list now is to see him perform this song live, no matter how far I have to travel or how much I have to spend.  heh heh. Power to the people. |
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Post by ksha518 on Apr 7, 2012 23:28:30 GMT -5
[ - In honor of Mirages posting again, I will mention this site I like. It is gay/lesbian themed but I just like the choice of poetry and pairing w/old photos. (Mirages likes poetry just to clarify.) woolfandwilde.com/category/imagined-histories/Awww, Mika ... To be remembered at all, and then in such a lovely fashion! I went straight to the site and found this poem. (Adam tie-in coming, really!): Thy voice, as tender as the light
That shivers low at eve -
Thy hair, where myriad flashes bright
Do in and outward weave -
Thy charms in their diversity
Half frighten and astonish me.
Thine eyes, that hold a mirth subdued
Like deep pools scattering fire -
Mine dare not meet them in their mood,
For fear of my desire,
Lest thou that secret do descry
Which evermore I must deny.
Hard is the world that does not give
To every love a place;
Hard is the power that bids us live
A life bereft of grace -
Hard, hard to lose thy figure, dear,
My star and my religion here!
Text: To a Friend, James Fenimore Cooper (1789-1851)So, Adam? Well, of course there's "Thy voice, as tender as the light/ That shivers low at eve -" except of course when it's shattering glass, bringing the house down or making our atoms wriggle in ecstatic harmonic resonance. And then there's "Thine eyes, that hold a mirth subdued/ Like deep pools scattering fire -" well, enough said. But it was "Hard is the world that does not give/ To every love a place;" that really brought Adam to mind ... Or, rather, what he expressed, equally beautifully, in OoL. Maybe the world is finally ready to listen. Thank you! Beautiful poem. I liked this: "Thy charms in their diversity Half frighten and astonish me" And this: "Mine dare not meet them in their mood For fear of my desire Lest thou that secret do descry Which evermore I must deny" And Mirages, loved your description of Adam "making our atoms wriggle in ecstatic harmonic resonance". <3<3<3 Perfect!! LOVE YOUR WORD CHOICES |
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I'll join your club, me likey.
There I go again, putting my undisciplined thinking and writing out there for all to see. 
