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Post by wal on Apr 25, 2012 16:57:36 GMT -5
Deleting pic, I see it's been discussed a few pages ago.
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Post by durberville on Apr 25, 2012 16:58:13 GMT -5
So I've decided that the Divas now serve (aside from their singing duties ) as the US version of Shoshanna Stone. ;D
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Post by kanadie on Apr 25, 2012 17:00:22 GMT -5
AOL SESSIONS GUYS!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! Oh, YEAH!!
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Post by adamme on Apr 25, 2012 17:01:25 GMT -5
I know.. I'm excited for you all who will be there.. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 17:01:31 GMT -5
Since we're still on the subject of Adam's lack of gay support I thought I'd share this: Last week I went to a Johnny Mathis concert with friends. (Judge away. His voice is great - as good as it was 50 years ago but I got bored with the sleepy music LOL) After the concert one of my friends noted that he wasn't wearing a wedding ring. I said "He's gay". And she said "REALLY? Do you think he has sex with MEN?" OMG, too funny but curiously naive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 17:03:58 GMT -5
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Post by nonchallance on Apr 25, 2012 17:05:22 GMT -5
I was talking about Adam and gay community with my good friend lately. He is gay, very intelligent and experienced man, so I wanted to know his opinion about it. He said to me, that he thinks it's fear of stereotype issue. People always thinks in cliches and sterotypes. They want easy answers. So when someone from gay minority is in spotlight, like for example Adam, and he make some idiotic mistakes, people will assume that gay community is bunch of Adams - they all do the same mistakes, they all alike. In his opinion gay comunnity is afraid of another sterotype to deal with and it's natural thing. This is like the same batlle all over again, every time. Gay community just trying to be cautious and sometimes they can overact. I hope that you will understand what I want to tell (my english is not good and this is a delicate matter) and I don't upset anyone with it.
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Post by adamrocks on Apr 25, 2012 17:05:49 GMT -5
LOL! Kanadie!! Best gif post of the day for me!! ;D
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Post by marie23 on Apr 25, 2012 17:07:47 GMT -5
YAY Internet Finally!!! Finally over here! Wanted to go out today and sightsee, but after driving around for like 3.5 hrs, i think I'm going to sit out and try early tomorrow or something...
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Post by rabbitrabbit on Apr 25, 2012 17:08:31 GMT -5
I need to run some errands and take a breath but I don't want to hit and run. I'll be back this eve - not flouncing. No one needs to apologize at all. But what I said is from my heart - its hard when you think people see you as yourself and then hear things by same people that reduce you to something less. I have done this myself more than once to people who fall into an 'other' category. It's often necessary to make generalizations to have a useful discussion about society but stereotypes can be hurtful. I can't imagine we want to communicate to gay sons, bros, friends that they belong to a group that has largely been twisted into something small and mean by whatever. I apologize sincerely for sounding harsh when I know no one meant anything negative. And maybe I'm just wrong and/or biased. Thank you for letting me vent. My feelings about this community are warm, fuzzy - I just had a sharp react to a short thread. Truly regret bringing the vibe down. Please dont let my comment bring anyone down or create a chilling effect on discussion. peace:) Hey, teachable moment here! You have a valid point. When people who want to be supportive are messing that up, no matter how well intentioned, then we need to be told. to you, and I'm sorry that we biffed up. I think sometimes we (well, I, for certain) tend to let my Mama Bear protectiveness of Adam get in the way of thinking things through as much as I should. Personally, I saw Mika's analogy as one of someone from the outside criticizing, analyzing and stereotyping a community that they don't belong to. That's the defining point for me. If you belong to a community, you know it from the inside out, in all it's breadth, width, and variety. You can speak to your personal experience as a member if you want to, as Adam did in the article, although you can't necessarily speak for others.
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