The Moon Garden Lounge

mirages I didn't change my avi because we were too similar but just in case it worried you --and I like all my moonbert pics and wanted to give the dragonfly a chance to fly~

Personally, I'm less concerned about Adam solidifying his existing base at this point than branching out and tapping into new ones, while showing the true diversity and depth of his talent. I know lately I harp but if his mgmt across the board doesn't have something big up their sleeves post-Queen, imo, they lack either the imagination or commitment to get him creative exposure. (And no more classic rock for a while, i would suggest)

I'll ponder. hmmm.

Junie, for me it is not a lack of interest, it is a lack of time and some time zone disconnects - I always seem to be last to any party on US-driven fansites, even in the "slower" threads.

I've really enjoyed what everyone here has had to say, their ideas and perspectives, their care and their beautiful visual gifts.

I have very, very limited Adam time at the moment, so my posts are not that thoughtful (despite your lovely compliment otherwise), they're written in a rush between other things I have to do, more like a stream of ideas only, rather than anything more coherent and even lacking precision at times (pointed out to me by one poster). Sometimes all I can manage is a little visual "gift" that I hope people might enjoy.

And I do apologise, because there have been many things written here that deserved more consideration that I have been able to give, both Adam and non-Adam related - and I enjoy both. Even those topics that are less interesting to me, I still try to respond to, because the person wants the interaction, wants the conversation and it's really nice to just chat as well.

I also hope that you don't feel any pressure to keep this thread going, or to keep suggesting possible interesting topics. Sometimes we can seem to be just in a mulling mood, not sure.



I'm still back in this part of the thread . You've come back to this notion a few times in different ways, so here are some of my thoughts. (random, lack of precision alert).

I'm not sure we've ever truly had a global sense of the "common good" or true sense of community in the first place to lose (I'm talking about western societies). What it means has never been very clear or anywhere near universally accepted. And its meaning has always favoured the interests of those with economic and political power. So, at best, it's been fractured, self-serving and enforced on individuals to greater and lesser degrees - through social and cultural norms that support those dominant interests.

That's not to say that there have not been sub-cultures built around a myriad of things. But they are inherently unstable - you lose the reason for forming the group in the first place, and it collapses fairly readily. Perhaps some of us have been privileged enough to be members of those, and hence are mourning their loss. I also believe it's much easier to have a sense of "being in it together" when economic times are good. When they're not, the dog-eat-dog tendency gets much stronger, but it always has been there.

Our societies are based on the notion of the individual and the primary rights of individuals. The sense of "other" is the foundation of the concept of community.

What motivates individuals, within their beings, to me is always primary. A loving heart self-regulates because it is motivated by the notion that “where my need stops, yours begins because we are one and the same”. You could call it individual moral choice, if this way of looking at it fits better.

I think human history shows us that, on the whole, something entirely different is motivating us, hence the need for so much external regulation to force the issue of considering others, to greater and lesser degrees at different times, but certainly in every sphere of life.

I tend to believe that peoples' conduct was simply better regulated in the past, that the notion of community in the larger sense was more "social correctness" than anything that genuinely came from a sense of love or moral choice. We venerate the "selfless", those that sacrifice themselves through choice, e.g. Mandela, or other "everyday heroes" because they are rare. That tells me a lot.

Adam is a poster child for individual freedom and expression - to the degree of "fuck you". But it is well tempered by his sense of "other", you know, the various statements he made during GNT about connection to love that were roundly and loudly mocked by so many?

I don't think I could stomach him, great voice aside, without this notion. He'd just be another egotistical rock star in a long, boring line of them.

Mika, take your time!

juniemoon, love you back.....in the Moon Garden's way ;D