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Confused. Is there some new Adam drug news or something? Or is Adam making a broader point about the media and celebrity culture. Hope there's not a new gate, they are unpleasant.

I understand what you are saying sugaree and you make a good point. I assumed Adam was referencing that in the context of the accusations made all the time that he is ALWAYS talking about his sexuality and orientation....the old, "why are you always pushing it in my face" accusation. What Adam is saying...I think...and what Paul was saying...is that "Yes I admit it...but it is you that is making it sensational....over and over again"...

If the press did not sensationalize Adam's sexual orientation, most of the general public would not be so hyper-aware of his orientation and radio would not have to censure their playing of his music. This is why most musicians and celebrities do not "come out". They are technically 'out' as in all their friends and peers know of their orientation, but they dare not say anything to the media! That is the MEDIA at fault, IMHO, not the artist.

Look at the speculation and the circus around John Travolta and/or Tom Cruise. What do you think would happen to their careers if they actually told the truth! Would it be their fault if the ensuing circus let a fan with issues suddenly either came out or jumped off a bridge?...I would blame the press, not the star. George Michael's career never survived...I doubt Ricky Martin's will most likely never get any bigger than it is..the press hounded them.

One last point, when Paul made that statement, there was no social media and/or internet so when something became massively publicized, it really was the "fault" of the media. There were plenty of things they did not make public....eg, Rock Hudson's orientation...many major stars. For good or bad, in the US....sexual orientation was until very recently, a taboo topic even for the media bottom-feeders. Not so anymore...

On a good note, I think we can thank Adam for taking some of the mystery and skullduggery from the reporting on sexuality...but his career is not helped by this. His talent is great enough that they are having a tough time killing his career too....but the constant references and questions about this taboo topic are not helping him at all. And that is what he is referencing. The drug talk about the Beatles did not help their career....but they were big enough to ride it out. The reason the drug talk and the sex talk are analagous is not because they are similar vices but because the media made them far more widely known and therefore potent instigators of change...whether the change is good or bad in anyone's pov.

Well...that was a little deep for first thing in the morning....:-)

ETA I wish you did not have to fear the pile on in the main thread...but you are right to fear it. At least we have here to have the conversation so I am really glad you felt safe to make your point sugaree

and on a personal note sugaree ...my dd LOVES her e-cig and now would like to sell them lol. yeah....

Adam hasn't blamed the media for what HE said but he sure has blamed the media for twisting his words about drugs.
Actually he was very mad to the point he called them "clever fuckers" on twitter.
There was a printed interview (not in the US fortunately). They asked Adam about the RS article and the "mushroom epiphany" at Burning Man and then they twisted his words and their question.
So they posted something like "So your advice for the young people if they want to be happy and fulfill their dreams is to take drugs? and that Adam's answer was "Sure, if that's what makes them happy why not?"

These are not the exact words they used but this was the message they wanted to get through.


Something that Adam never said. Fortunately this article never reached the US and didn't do him harm. Adam was surely mad about it.


After that interview he went to Singapore and during an interview we saw on YT a reporter asking him about why was he so angry and why he tweeted this and Adam said "That is the reason I prefer videos because you can actually see the words coming out of my mouth" The reporter asked him if he wanted to say something more about it and Adam (smart he is) didn't mention what article or anything else, so everything was forgotten.

You can see this part of the interview here and you can see the tweets he wrote about this.


No regrets Part 4

www.razor.tv/site/servlet/segment/main/entertainment/45006.html

You're trying to be honest and as Adam has said many times they take a part of an interview, twist it and sensationalize it, in order to fit their needs. I believe Adam was referring to this today, among other things.

Just as they could take Paul's words and make them look like Paul is encouraging people and he's leading the example of doing drugs.

I do believe what Paul wanted to say is that he wants to answer honestly every question he's being asked and not avoid it . Just like Adam has said so many times. What the media chooses to do with it , is THEIR responsibilty not his.

Sugaree You wrote



I think they DID try to sensationalize it, because the reporter is telling him that he is a public figure and doesn't Paul think that it will encourage his fans on doing drugs? And Paul is saying that he answered a question by telling the truth. He didn't say to others "Do drugs" though the media will say that "that's exactly what he did, he should be a role model to his fans , cause he's a public figure etc etc"


This is the comparison I see regarding Adam.
They want to make him a role model, although Adam always says "Don't do what I do, do what you do" , and that he's surely not perfect and he doesn't want to "look perfect" as many artists are trying hard to "look and act perfect" and be role models by trying to always say "the right things". And then something happens and "the role model' is not exactly the role model and their fans are deeply dissapointed because what they thought was true is really not.

I'm not good at explaining my thoughts in English , I hope you understand my point of view.