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Post by lurleene on Aug 27, 2017 22:15:40 GMT -5
Taylor's a great song writer. I'm not sure I like her new single though. Not sure if it's Taylor or Kesha Circa 2010. I just felt like Taylor was shouting at me. What did I do lol. I don't think Adam can't get that level of success because of his massive talent. I just think he has lacked the right combination of right single choice, luck, and timing. From what Adam has said about A4. Seems like he is experimenting a lot more. And he is in some transitional phase. I do believe theirs still room for everyone on the charts. Since 2010 theirs been a range of artists on the charts. Adam get a a hit single. Then he can experiment a bit more. It's also hard for an American out gay artist .There are only a handful of new openly gay artists who are on top ,Adam being one of them.I believe the others are from England ,Australia,etc...The music business is totally hard for most ,but being different makes it even harder... IMHO ,Adam's three albums are great with some songs to die for... so many songs were not heard by the masses..I find it heart breaking. Just watched Pink On VHM who made a point of saluting artists who were androgynous , like Bowie ,Mercury, Prince ,etc.. I was waiting for her to mention Adam.Talked about How her daughter felt unpretty because she feels like she looks like a boy.. Pink said one should never change for others,even if they are teased for being different... ..Her message was about acceptance . IMO,Pink was fantastic ,her performance stole the show. I think billboard agrees with you and so do I. www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7873025/75-best-music-moments-decade-10sThe 75 Moments That Defined the Decade in Music (So Far) June 2, 2012: Adam Lambert becomes first openly gay male artist to hit No. 1 on Billboard 200 chart Adam Lambert's Trespassing wasn't an event album, neither spawning a single top 40 hit on the Billboard Hot 100 nor ever being certified gold. But it was a very good album by a very good pop artist, and for at least one week, it was a modestly historic album, as the set bowed atop the Billboard 200 with 77,000 in sales, making Lambert the first openly gay male artist to top the chart. It was a quietly landmark moment, and one of many major steps made for the LGBTQ community in '10s pop music -- though top 40 still has a long way to go before allowing for true equality. -- A.U.
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Post by girldrummer on Aug 27, 2017 22:24:27 GMT -5
Michael Carty ✔ @mjcarty Excellent What's The Tee episode featuring @adamlambert talking to @rupaul and @michellevisage: www.rupaulpodcast.com/episodes/2017/8/23/episode-112-adam-lambert … Michael Carty @mjcarty Extremely pleased to make your Twitter acquaintance. Personal account for personal views & opinions only! Sussex mjcarty.tumblr.com Didn't have the chance to comment on this interview since I was gone for a while. I love it. Adam is SO honest. No bullshit from him. No pretending. Everything from sex to pot to alcohol to playing the music industry's wicked game. He's just out there trying to live his dream. He is very driven and determined. And he's still such a good-natured guy at heart, happy and funny and positive. All the reasons why I fell in love with him. I think he'll be fine. But I sure wish he'd get a really juicy acting role. PLEASE!
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Post by red panda on Aug 27, 2017 22:28:31 GMT -5
You know, normally I just accept that those with the best voices don't always get the recognition I feel they deserve. But honestly (and I don't even know how popular this group is, not familiar with them) but Fifth Harmony did not impress me at all with their singing. I kept thinking, as I have read some of you expressing at various times, how Adam's voice would sound on that stage. GFG indeed, Dr. Brian May. Whatever else there is, that boy can sing his face off. And as long as I am venting, and no offense to his fans, but what is it about Ed Sheeran? Does he have a great voice and I am missing it somehow? I'm happy for him that so many people seem to love him so much, maybe it's partially the lyrics? But I truly don't get Ed Sheeran. And I know some people don't get Adam, so it is a big wide wonderful world with something for everybody, thank goodness. Loved Taylor Swift's video, find her songs to be very catchy. Love Pink, she is a true mensch imo. Lucky daughter. ETA: Honestly, I think there is something wrong with my computer. Don't know who Khalid is, but he sounds dreadful. Maybe their autotune is on the fritz. Or maybe I am just cranky.
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Post by nonotme on Aug 27, 2017 22:45:27 GMT -5
I know next to nothing about the mainstream pop music biz, but I have a theory about there being several factors that have kept Adam from being on the level where one sells out arenas. (This refers to performing his own music.) I'm going to mention two of those factors.
One factor, of course, is that he is gay. It is easier for gay stars now, but not actually easy. Several other gay singers have mentioned this recently. I'm sure most of you agree on this factor.
Then there is age. I think it is a big factor, although a musical artist can have success at any age. However, age does seem to make a difference for the artists that get to the arena level.
Adam was 27 when he came off of Idol. The majority of stars at the arena level had a large swath of young (plus a smaller group of not so young) fans attach to them when they (the stars) were late teens through early 20's. Then those fans stuck with them. Radio knows they have those big fan groups, and it makes a difference in radio's choice to play the heck out of their songs, so even more fans...
Adele was 19 when a lot of fans attached to her, then a bunch more did so when she was 21. The former Disney stars had kids attaching to them when they were quite young, then when they went on their own as musical artists they were early twenties or younger, so more fans. Sam Smith was 20 or 21 when he was featured on the Disclosure song that brought him to public attention. Bon Jovi was in his teens when he started to amass fans. Kesha was 23 when Tik Tok became a big hit. Lady Gaga was 22 or 23 when her first album, The Fame, came out. Bruno Mars was 24 when his first album came out, so pushing toward the end of that early twenties period, but he was already known for producing and being a featured singer on other people's songs. Ed Sheeran started as a teen and gained fans on the internet, put out EP's and then a studio album that did very well at age 20, wrote with T Swift and provided vocals for her album, opened for her Red tour when 22, then at 22-23 was headlining arenas himself. Kelly Clarson was 20 or 21 when she came off of Idol, Carrie Underwood was 22-23.
Apologies if that is too many examples. LOL
After I noticed this age pattern I thought, hey, why do we, culturally, so often form these fan attachments primarily when the artists are in that late teen and early twenties period. I have no answer. They are cute then, though, so maybe it's like falling for puppies and kittens. more LOL
There must be some arena level artists who don't fit this pattern, but I can't think of any at the moment. Please post some that you are aware of.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 22:48:40 GMT -5
Off topic but this gives an idea of what Houston is facing. Some of you and QAL saw this skyline a few weeks ago.
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Post by loxie on Aug 27, 2017 23:02:14 GMT -5
I know next to nothing about the mainstream pop music biz, but I have a theory about there being several factors that have kept Adam from being on the level where one sells out arenas. (This refers to performing his own music.) I'm going to mention two of those factors. One factor, of course, is that he is gay. It is easier for gay stars now, but not actually easy. Several other gay singers have mentioned this recently. I'm sure most of you agree on this factor. Then there is age. I think it is a big factor, although a musical artist can have success at any age. However, age does seem to make a difference for the artists that get to the arena level. Adam was 27 when he came off of Idol. The majority of stars at the arena level had a large swath of young (plus a smaller group of not so young) fans attach to them when they (the stars) were late teens through early 20's. Then those fans stuck with them. Radio knows they have those big fan groups, and it makes a difference in radio's choice to play the heck out of their songs, so even more fans... Adele was 19 when a lot of fans attached to her, then a bunch more did so when she was 21. The former Disney stars had kids attaching to them when they were quite young, then when they went on their own as musical artists they were early twenties or younger, so more fans. Sam Smith was 20 or 21 when he was featured on the Disclosure song that brought him to public attention. Bon Jovi was in his teens when he started to amass fans. Kesha was 23 when Tik Tok became a big hit. Lady Gaga was 22 or 23 when her first album, The Fame, came out. Bruno Mars was 24 when his first album came out, so pushing toward the end of that early twenties period, but he was already known for producing and being a featured singer on other people's songs. Ed Sheeran started as a teen and gained fans on the internet, put out EP's and then a studio album that did very well at age 20, wrote with T Swift and provided vocals for her album, opened for her Red tour when 22, then at 22-23 was headlining arenas himself. Kelly Clarson was 20 or 21 when she came off of Idol, Carrie Underwood was 22-23. Apologies if that is too many examples. LOL After I noticed this age pattern I thought, hey, why do we, culturally, so often form these fan attachments primarily when the artists are in that late teen and early twenties period. I have no answer. They are cute then, though, so maybe it's like falling for puppies and kittens. more LOL There must be some arena level artists who don't fit this pattern, but I can't think of any at the moment. Please post some that you are aware of. peace&love nonotme, I think you hit the nail on the head! All or most of the super successful pop stars developed initial fans primarily from TV shows and the Internet when they were very young, e.g. Miley Cyrus. This fan base then expanded exponentially. Teen girls appear to be the most ardent fans and will do everything to support their idols.
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Post by lurleene on Aug 27, 2017 23:04:13 GMT -5
I think there are several factors that kept Adam from being much bigger but the main thing was radio play. Without a ton of it you are not going to reach that level. Gay was a part in my opinion but radio was the driving force. Maroon 5, according to Levine, was ready to breakup then he got The Voice and everything he put out radio played it to death. The big arena shows followed. Kelly Clarkson has never been an arena artist like Carrie but she did get a ton of radio play tho it did not push her to Carrie's level. Jonas got the radio play but did not reach headlining area status as a solo act like Demi and Shawn Mendes or Sheeran. So who knows? I would have loved for Adam to get the chance tho and if it did not happen for him then it did not happen. But if you are not put in front of the masses it is guaranteed you will come up short with concerts and award show performance. I watched the VMA to see Lorde play a tape of her song and just dance badly to it. Really? The guy who won some award could not even sing. WTF and everyone was grinning and bopping.
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Post by donnamb on Aug 27, 2017 23:18:16 GMT -5
Ed Sheeran is like elevator music to me. Nice elevator music, but still. Levine and Maroon 5 are in that category too. Lorde and Tove Lo, P!nk - are all strong writers and singers and radio seems okay with them. Even with the less than squeaky clean lyrics. (Drug and alcohol references.) With that in consideration, I don't know why Adam hasn't gotten more push for radio play.
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Post by nonotme on Aug 27, 2017 23:25:55 GMT -5
I know next to nothing about the mainstream pop music biz, but I have a theory about there being several factors that have kept Adam from being on the level where one sells out arenas. (This refers to performing his own music.) I'm going to mention two of those factors. One factor, of course, is that he is gay. It is easier for gay stars now, but not actually easy. Several other gay singers have mentioned this recently. I'm sure most of you agree on this factor. Then there is age. I think it is a big factor, although a musical artist can have success at any age. However, age does seem to make a difference for the artists that get to the arena level. Adam was 27 when he came off of Idol. The majority of stars at the arena level had a large swath of young (plus a smaller group of not so young) fans attach to them when they (the stars) were late teens through early 20's. Then those fans stuck with them. Radio knows they have those big fan groups, and it makes a difference in radio's choice to play the heck out of their songs, so even more fans... Adele was 19 when a lot of fans attached to her, then a bunch more did so when she was 21. The former Disney stars had kids attaching to them when they were quite young, then when they went on their own as musical artists they were early twenties or younger, so more fans. Sam Smith was 20 or 21 when he was featured on the Disclosure song that brought him to public attention. Bon Jovi was in his teens when he started to amass fans. Kesha was 23 when Tik Tok became a big hit. Lady Gaga was 22 or 23 when her first album, The Fame, came out. Bruno Mars was 24 when his first album came out, so pushing toward the end of that early twenties period, but he was already known for producing and being a featured singer on other people's songs. Ed Sheeran started as a teen and gained fans on the internet, put out EP's and then a studio album that did very well at age 20, wrote with T Swift and provided vocals for her album, opened for her Red tour when 22, then at 22-23 was headlining arenas himself. Kelly Clarson was 20 or 21 when she came off of Idol, Carrie Underwood was 22-23. Apologies if that is too many examples. LOL After I noticed this age pattern I thought, hey, why do we, culturally, so often form these fan attachments primarily when the artists are in that late teen and early twenties period. I have no answer. They are cute then, though, so maybe it's like falling for puppies and kittens. more LOL There must be some arena level artists who don't fit this pattern, but I can't think of any at the moment. Please post some that you are aware of. peace&love nonotme, I think you hit the nail on the head! All or most of the super successful pop stars developed initial fans primarily from TV shows and the Internet when they were very young, e.g. Miley Cyrus. This fan base then expanded exponentially. Teen girls appear to be the most ardent fans and will do everything to support their idols. It doesn't have to be TV and the internet. Bon Jovi, among others, did it the old fashioned way by simply starting out playing gigs pretty young. Yeah, the teen girls are quite a force of nature. Besides doing what they can to support their artist like playing radio games, just their very large presence, even without interacting with radio, helps drive radio play. Radio knows it's the audience their advertisers want. peace&love
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