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Post by fallenangel on Jan 11, 2013 18:52:42 GMT -5
Seriously, he doesn't know what he's talking about. So he had no friends and he had to sit alone at lunch. I understand how bad that is, but that's not bullying. Petty bullshit is not bullying. Please, Adam, stop. Sorry but I completely disagree. Adam is talking about kids who are alone and therefore easy prey for bullies and he has EVERY RIGHT to say what he's saying and he's 100% right. Kids need to find support systems that help them during what is for EVERY KID a difficult transition from childhood to adulthood. Even bullies are bullied by someone at some point. His point is that bullying comes from a PETTY place. Obviously if someone is physically harming you you can't ignore that but if someone calls you names or generally tries to make you feel like an outcast, ignore them. Giving them a reaction is exactly what they want. It's where their power comes from. as an aside I'm honestly SO tired of fans telling Adam to shut up. I actually disagree with you. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away. Their power doesn't come from a reaction it comes from being able to humilliate someone knowing they can't do anything about it.
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Post by wal on Jan 11, 2013 18:53:33 GMT -5
Adam Lambert @adamlambert I'm not quite sure of how any of what I'm tweeting would be disappointing to anyone.... Someone explain? We are having a twitter forum!
Kathy @hide_n_confide2 @adamlambert maybe your wording has made you seem to be Victim Blaming? Or maybe you aren't really talking abt real bullying
Adam Lambert @adamlambert @hide_n_confide2 I never blame the victim of bullying for it. That's CRAy. I just want to help victims not be so easily victimized. Ya know?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 18:54:24 GMT -5
It seems to me what Adam is saying is: - There is a lot of crap that teenagers face, that we all go through, and labeling all of it "bullying" desensitizes us to the real bullying that goes on. - Making bullies take responsibility for their actions is important, but it is also important to give victims tools of self-powerment so that even the milder forms of bullying don't lead to despair. Learning how to cope with bullying could save kids' lives. - Bullying doesn't just happen to teens -- even Adam has to deal with it. I agree with him, but Twitter is a damn difficult way to have a profound discussion. Too easy to misunderstand what is going on. Sigh. That's the one thing I didn't see him say today. Which tweet was that one? #Confused Here are a couple: I Go By Many Names @igobymanynames @adamlambert Adam, feeling isolated in middle school is not the same as being victim of sustained physical and or psychological bullying Adam Lambert @adamlambert @igobymanynames when did i say it was? Adam Lambert @adamlambert It's a case by case thing. If someone's being so viciously bullied that its affecting their mental health - yes- huge problem we must stop
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Post by bullsfan on Jan 11, 2013 18:54:38 GMT -5
Adam Lambert @adamlambertBack to the original point, I simply wish we'd focus more energy on the victims' empowerment versus labeling anyone whos negative as a bully Was this his original point? Because this I actually understand. Basically he really wasn't talking about actual bullying at all. I think the point he was trying to make just got totally mangled by the constraints of twitter. (Or he just wasn't clear enough initially)
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Post by Albiku on Jan 11, 2013 18:55:21 GMT -5
Adam Lambert @adamlambertI'm not quite sure of how any of what I'm tweeting would be disappointing to anyone.... Someone explain? We are having a twitter forum! Kathy @hide_n_confide2 @adamlambert maybe your wording has made you seem to be Victim Blaming? Or maybe you aren't really talking abt real bullying Adam Lambert @adamlambert@hide_n_confide2 I never blame the victim of bullying for it. That's CRAy. I just want to help victims not be so easily victimized. Ya know? Again, finally! Now he's making sense.
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Post by geezlouise on Jan 11, 2013 18:55:52 GMT -5
[/IMG] [/quote] I'm not ignoring it! And the episode is called DIVA!! Hmmmm.... Also it seems spoilers are saying a Queen song will be sung by Blaine in that outfit.
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Post by wal on Jan 11, 2013 18:56:46 GMT -5
Adam Lambert @adamlambert
The reason I brought up how society tends to view celebrity culture was to suggest the sometimes hypocritical aspect to victim/bullying.
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Post by adamrocks on Jan 11, 2013 18:56:47 GMT -5
It seems to me what Adam is saying is: - There is a lot of crap that teenagers face, that we all go through, and labeling all of it "bullying" desensitizes us to the real bullying that goes on. - Making bullies take responsibility for their actions is important, but it is also important to give victims tools of self-powerment so that even the milder forms of bullying don't lead to despair. Learning how to cope with bullying could save kids' lives. - Bullying doesn't just happen to teens -- even Adam has to deal with it. I agree with him, but Twitter is a damn difficult way to have a profound discussion. Too easy to misunderstand what is going on. Sigh. I wasn't going to comment on this discussion but Iridium I agree with what you said here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 18:56:49 GMT -5
Bullying is actually a crime according to the Finnish Law and many school bullying cases have become a police affair in Finland. Here is a GOOGLE translation of a part of a Finnish review: (http://www.mll.fi/nuortennetti/kiusaaminen/syita_ja_seurauksia/mita_laki_sanoo/) Bullying can be assault if the bullying is used physical violence, causing pain to another or damaging the health of another. Both physical and emotional violence can harm the health of another. Thus, the mental bullying can be a criminal assault, for example, if another mental health will be harmed. Also causing pain does not necessarily mean physical violence, as the pain can also be a spiritual bullying.Bullying can be physical violence such as hitting, pushing, kicking, tripping strangling, hair pulling or attacking. The use of physical violence is punishable by a slight assault, even if the victim should not be the work injury and pain. Assault sentenced to a fine or to imprisonment not exceeding two years. Bullying bully can also be guilty of causing injury, in a situation where the bully is bullied accidentally caused the injury. Vammatuottamuksesta (hurting someone) sentenced to a fine or imprisonment up to six months. Damages liability have no age limit, so the less than 15-year-old bully may be sentenced to pay damages to the victim of bullying, which has caused damage. Congratulations to Finland for being unwilling to tolerate this behavior. Yes, bullying can be on physical, emotional, mental and spiritual levels IMO. Finland should be a model for other countries that this behavior is NOT to be tolerated. I see how broken my nephew is at times because of the bullying he has undergone because he is different. To me, different in the very best of ways..an intelligent and creative man..beaten down by remarks, threats, and attacks. I commend your country! ETA: He told me one time that the remarks were as painful if not more so than actual attacks where he had a chance to fend someone off.
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Post by bullsfan on Jan 11, 2013 18:57:39 GMT -5
[/IMG] [/quote] I'm not ignoring it! And the episode is called DIVA!! Hmmmm.... Also it seems spoilers are saying a Queen song will be sung by Blaine in that outfit. [/quote] Ok, if that's all true than they owe Adam big time
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