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Post by wal on Jan 11, 2013 18:57:46 GMT -5
Adam Lambert @adamlambert
Sometimes it seems that folks adopt an "eye for an eye" attitude instead of just rising above it. Doesn't this just become a vicious cycle?
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Post by teddybear on Jan 11, 2013 18:57:50 GMT -5
[/IMG] [/quote] I'm not ignoring it! And the episode is called DIVA!! Hmmmm.... Also it seems spoilers are saying a Queen song will be sung by Blaine in that outfit.  [/quote] He'll sing "Don't Stop Me now" Don't know if it's in that outfit though I think that pic is from the group number to Beyonce's "Diva" |
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Post by wal on Jan 11, 2013 19:00:03 GMT -5
Adam Lambert @adamlambert
And NO. I'm not taking sides in any of the current celeb beefs. This is a general conversation. More about society as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 19:00:22 GMT -5
[/IMG] [/size][/font][/quote] Looks like he's loosing some followers [img src=" ![]() i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adam%20Smilys/Other%20Smileys/dunno1.gif"][/IMG] [/quote] Twitter followers don't mean jack careerwise...if they did his sales would be better obviously. If people unfollow him oh well. What he's saying makes total sense and IMO people are just not paying attention. His point is not every altercation between kids is bullying. Not every time a child gets into an argument or scrap at school are they being bullied. Kids fight. Kids are rude. As an adult you damn well better know how to deal with people's attitudes without feeling like a victim all the time. His point is that it's become very trendy to say "I've been bullied" or "that's bullying" Adam IS bullied online, even by his own fans sometimes. He's developed a thick enough skin to deal with it and that's what he's trying to say everyone needs. Take the power back from the bullies and nasty people who have nothing but negative things to say. Every reaction just invites more of the same because they crave the attention and satisfaction of having power over someone else. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 19:02:33 GMT -5
Sorry but I completely disagree. Adam is talking about kids who are alone and therefore easy prey for bullies and he has EVERY RIGHT to say what he's saying and he's 100% right. Kids need to find support systems that help them during what is for EVERY KID a difficult transition from childhood to adulthood. Even bullies are bullied by someone at some point. His point is that bullying comes from a PETTY place. Obviously if someone is physically harming you you can't ignore that but if someone calls you names or generally tries to make you feel like an outcast, ignore them. Giving them a reaction is exactly what they want. It's where their power comes from. as an aside I'm honestly SO tired of fans telling Adam to shut up. I actually disagree with you. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away. Their power doesn't come from a reaction it comes from being able to humilliate someone knowing they can't do anything about it. Yes. Bullies control those they target by using disempowerment and by stimulating artificially high levels of fear, shame, embarrassment and guilt. This is true of all abusers whether they are school bullies, sexual harassers, violent partners committing domestic violence, or pedophiles. It is also standard psychopathic behaviour to reflect every attempt at accountability back onto the accuser and to plausibly portray their victim as the guilty party.www.bullyonline.org/schoolbully/myths.htmA very important issue has been trivialized in this discussion. I agree with those who have said it was entirely the wrong forum and wrong approach. |
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Post by geezlouise on Jan 11, 2013 19:03:04 GMT -5
I'm not ignoring it! And the episode is called DIVA!! Hmmmm.... Also it seems spoilers are saying a Queen song will be sung by Blaine in that outfit. He'll sing "Don't Stop Me now" Don't know if it's in that outfit though I think that pic is from the group number to Beyonce's "Diva" Well then, I'll wager he sings 'Don't Stop Me Now' in full black leather with some spiky shoulder accoutrements!  |
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Post by annietoo on Jan 11, 2013 19:03:50 GMT -5
It seems to me what Adam is saying is: - There is a lot of crap that teenagers face, that we all go through, and labeling all of it "bullying" desensitizes us to the real bullying that goes on. - Making bullies take responsibility for their actions is important, but it is also important to give victims tools of self-powerment so that even the milder forms of bullying don't lead to despair. Learning how to cope with bullying could save kids' lives. - Bullying doesn't just happen to teens -- even Adam has to deal Sigh. IA, isn't this essentially what the Trevor Project attempts to do? Give bullied kids encouragement and a sense of worth and hopefulness so they can cope woth the bullies by knowing they can rise above it. Bullies should absolutely be a taken to task but working with the victims to be more empowered and shake off the mentality is much more of an immediate help, IMO. I remember having this conversation when Adam's "It Gets Better" vid came because this was essentially his point back then too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 19:06:14 GMT -5
I think Adam is on a cross country flight with WiFi!! ;D
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Post by wal on Jan 11, 2013 19:08:18 GMT -5
Adam Lambert @adamlambert
im not saying there shouldn't be consequences for bullies. I'm saying that HELPING folks cope and ignore is ALSO important & more proactive
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Jan 11, 2013 19:08:24 GMT -5
I'm not ignoring it! And the episode is called DIVA!! Hmmmm.... Also it seems spoilers are saying a Queen song will be sung by Blaine in that outfit. Ok, if that's all true than they owe Adam big time What show? |
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