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Post by Craazyforadam on Jul 22, 2013 22:44:41 GMT -5
Adam did get TP to Number 1. But it was only for a week. What counts is total sales over a period of weeks. To do that, Adam is going to have to have singles on the radio or else a total all out publicity campaign with lots of TV appearances. Also I think some of you are overestimating the effects the change in Billboard's Hot 100 rules will have on an Adam single. Yes, VEVO/youtube views, etc. are now taken into consideration. But the songs that get high counts from non-radio play are usually the same songs that get a lot of radio play OR else they are songs that go viral on social media, which then drives sales and convinces radio to play. Adam has never had a song "go viral" and that is a problem. I really think Adam is going to need a very active push from his new label,with a lot of TV, to kick off any new release. 'What counts is total sales over a period of weeks'. Count for whom? To break even after all label overhead costs have been dumped onto your account, sure you need sustained sales for an endless amount of time. If you don't have a label that runs every sneeze via corporate lawyers for weeks on end, runs the most inefficient infrastructure and organization and has a whole blown up balloon of corporate charges to absorb, then surely, that break- even point is reached a whole lot sooner. So, that gets the accounting side of the argument out of the way. Remains the more substantial argument that Adam wants to have reach, worldwide attention to his craft. Imo, Adam will get that via live performances, TV events, other roles he plays rather than via album sales numbers alone, imo. He is already now a far more important cultural figure than his 77K 1st week album sales would indicate. I wish him all the success in the world for his next album and hope it is much bigger that the last, but I am not thinking that he needs to meet anyone's targets just to prove a point or give anyone bragging rights. There are more roads leading to Rome here. Albums will be one cornerstone in the ever evolving Glambert brand, but not the only ingredient, imo. But having a number 1 album has been great for Adam and it would be good to make a major impact and show of similar strength the next time around. If sales are even higher, then even better and I think with rock theme and Glee as a help, he has a good change at that. 'overestimating BB changes': Nope, not overestimating, in fact I wrote exactly what you are saying, it will move the marker a bit, but I doubt it will be enough to ensure him top rank on single charts. Agree with you here. Disagree how badly he needs that Hot100 single topper or how much his reaching or not reaching it can be influenced with direct promotion. Mys*&@^#r, agree with you on timeline and yes, idol wanted him all along. We are on same page here. |
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Post by didilynn on Jul 22, 2013 22:53:52 GMT -5
Why do people think that having a "rock" album is going to guarantee higher sales? I don't get that, because pop music is the music that sells the most, isn't it? Rock isn't selling as much, I mean there are some alternative bands that are hitting big now (the list is upthread somewhere) but there is no guarantee that Adam will be accepted into that alt rock crowd off the bat.
A lot of Adam's fan base seems to be into rock or classic rock, is that why many of you think this means more sales for Adam, I just don't get it.
I agree with Heathcliff, Adam needs a big push to radio (by a new label committed to this hopefully) or for a song to go viral (through use in an ad or on TV or whatever) - I feel he really needs a nice hit song to further his recording career, if he wants to graduate to arena tours etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 22:58:36 GMT -5
Why do people think that having a "rock" album is going to guarantee higher sales? I don't get that, because pop music is the music that sells the most, isn't it? Rock isn't selling as much, I mean there are some alternative bands that are hitting big now (the list is upthread somewhere) but there is no guarantee that Adam will be accepted into that alt rock crowd off the bat. A lot of Adam's fan base seems to be into rock or classic rock, is that why many of you think this means more sales for Adam, I just don't get it. I agree with Heathcliff, Adam needs a big push to radio (by a new label committed to this hopefully) or for a song to go viral (through use in an ad or on TV or whatever) - I feel he really needs a nice hit song to further his recording career, if he wants to graduate to arena tours etc. Didi, I don't think anyone thinks that. Do they? I don't see Adam going Rock anyway. I am picturing P!NK stuff, prior to her last album. Or an eclectic mix, like FYE. |
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Post by adamrocks on Jul 22, 2013 23:02:23 GMT -5
Bonnie McKee @bonniemckee I'm jumping on @ustream in 1/2 hour to chat with you! Come join the party! www.ustream.tv/bonniemckeeIt's a shame but I don't like her video but love the teaser video and enjoy watching it instead. Of course having AFL's beautiful face in it is the icing on the cake for me.  One time was enough for me to watch her video! It's a shame because the song is catchy and it will probably be a hit. This one makes me smile! 
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Post by heathcliff on Jul 22, 2013 23:02:32 GMT -5
I am posting a lot today. If I am boring you all, I'm sorry. I think sometimes we as Adam fans forget that there is a difference between an entertainer's management and his agent. This is one article that explains it: www.johnson-moo.com/entertainment-manager-vs-agent/In short, the manager guides and sets the direction for a performer's career. (DMG is Adam's management). Management is all about the "big picture" and planning/strategy. But it is the agent that goes out and gets jobs. (CAA = Creative Artists Agency is Adam's agent.) I have to say sometimes I am disappointed with Adam's agent. I bring this all up because over the weekend there was an interesting item on deadline.com. THe world famous PSY, managed by Scott Braun, who made Beiber a star, was reported to be switching agents from CAA to William Morris Endeaver. In the news release, WME is quoted as saying it "will...pursue opportunities across all entertainment platforms, including film, television, endorsements, books, and digital media". I have to say I will shit if PSY makes a movie before Adam. |
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Post by adamrocks on Jul 22, 2013 23:11:19 GMT -5
Oh! WOW!! I love this pic!!
aLiKaT @alikat_56 @adamlambert Paso Robles - feeling the energy. TY for amazing show :-) pic.twitter.com/Vq7bx3Kn6l  |
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Post by jean1010 on Jul 22, 2013 23:22:17 GMT -5
I am posting a lot today. If I am boring you all, I'm sorry. I think sometimes we as Adam fans forget that there is a difference between an entertainer's management and his agent. This is one article that explains it: www.johnson-moo.com/entertainment-manager-vs-agent/In short, the manager guides and sets the direction for a performer's career. (DMG is Adam's management). Management is all about the "big picture" and planning/strategy. But it is the agent that goes out and gets jobs. (CAA = Creative Artists Agency is Adam's agent.) I have to say sometimes I am disappointed with Adam's agent. I bring this all up because over the weekend there was an interesting item on deadline.com. THe world famous PSY, managed by Scott Braun, who made Beiber a star, was reported to be switching agents from CAA to William Morris Endeaver. In the news release, WME is quoted as saying it "will...pursue opportunities across all entertainment platforms, including film, television, endorsements, books, and digital media". I have to say I will shit if PSY makes a movie before Adam. Thanks that in interesting information. I imagine that the agent works closely with management, I hope they are a team. So who is responsible for a gig like Glee for example, and where does the publicist (Sosh) fit in the picture? |
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Post by heathcliff on Jul 22, 2013 23:39:38 GMT -5
Jean, I don't think any of us have a clue how Glee came about. But in general, a manager would say we have to take Star A "wide" and
pursue movies and TV, and then the agent would work at lining up movie and TV gigs.
But with Adam, who knows? Maybe he was at a club with Darren Criss, and told Darren, "I really want to be on Glee. Do you think you could put in a word for me with Ryan Murphy?" (I wish Adam had been at a club with Rob Marshall.)
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Post by Q3 on Jul 22, 2013 23:40:27 GMT -5
Adam did get TP to Number 1. But it was only for a week. What counts is total sales over a period of weeks. To do that, Adam is going to have to have singles on the radio or else a total all out publicity campaign with lots of TV appearances. Also I think some of you are overestimating the effects the change in Billboard's Hot 100 rules will have on an Adam single. Yes, VEVO/youtube views, etc. are now taken into consideration. But the songs that get high counts from non-radio play are usually the same songs that get a lot of radio play OR else they are songs that go viral on social media, which then drives sales and convinces radio to play. Adam has never had a song "go viral" and that is a problem. I really think Adam is going to need a very active push from his new label,with a lot of TV, to kick off any new release. I agree 100% with this. ETA: My guess is that Glee was DMG to Ryan Murphy, then a follow-up meeting including Adam. (We know Adam met with Ryan.) |
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Post by adamrocks on Jul 22, 2013 23:41:25 GMT -5
Lorena Silva @lorenaglambert *-* pic.twitter.com/EWTkAT6cIt 
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One time was enough for me to watch her video! It's a shame because the song is catchy and it will probably be a hit.
