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Post by DancyGeorgia on Dec 3, 2013 23:09:16 GMT -5
I guess I'm thinking that the band has performed these songs many times before and that "like riding a bike" after awhile you can pick up where you left off. I thought I heard that they had a long practice session before they played for the fundraiser a few weeks ago. I'm also thinking that Adam's musical director must have some responsibility for getting the band ready to play. After living with these songs for a year or more, I just can't see why Adam needs to keep investing in pre-concert prep. I'm sure he is paying all of them pretty well to show up and be prepared.
I guess where I see the need for the biggest adjustment is in the band's ability to improv when Adam starts leaving "the grid". My uncle was an accompanist for 7 decades. He could sit down with most vocalists and follow along with them as they were switching keys and tempo's and whatever else the vocalist felt like doing. He had an ear for that sort of thing.
Adam and his band are not out there week after week grinding out performances and learning from their mistakes. I know those of us here can identify which version of a song was sung where and that we are, perhaps, hyper sensitive when we pick up on performance differences. Would you expect 2 professional dancers, say on So You Think You Can Dance, to spend many hours learning a routine, perform it on stage in front of thousands of people, and then come back 5 months later, or even 5 weeks later, only practice their individual parts by themselves and not together, and then get back up on stage in front of thousands of people and do the routine together again for the first time in 5 months and do it as good as they did the first time???? It would never happen!!!! As the saying goes, you are only as good as your last practice! You have to work as a unit, not as individuals, to produce a beautiful dance. And that takes recent practice with each other to get back in sync with how the other person dances and how your parts mesh. I'm sure it is the same for a high quality musical performance by a group! Unless you are willing to settle for things not going as smoothly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 23:20:12 GMT -5
Want to quickly clarify my use of the word 'interaction' on my post about the band. It wasn't meant as the band should grand stand or take their attention off Adam. It's a natural flow, kind of an unspoken language, that you see with yes, Adam and Queen, for example. Their instincts are intertwined. It takes attention, focus and reading the solo artist. I saw the band start to find this sweet spot at the end of WAG and I hope, if Adam continues on with these musicians, they can find that spot again. Miami was not an example of what they are capable of. That seemed to be sound issue hell for everyone.
A quick clarification of a word poorly used. Done and doner with the band topic.
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Post by cassie on Dec 3, 2013 23:20:58 GMT -5
I wonder if the heavy backing track threw Adam and the band. They did WAG without one , for the most part, and seemed to do just fine with everything, including Adam's improvising! Excellent point. How to work with a backing track and an artist taking off into another dimension improv-ing?? Well, WAG didn't do a lot with backing tracks when they had backing singers live. But, once the girls stopped performing, they needed to add the backing track in order to get the vocal harmonies on the tracks. And, you are right, improvising is strictly limited when you are working with a backing track. You can only improv within the confines of the pre-established rhythms, verses and harmonies. If Adam wants to do improv, he needs to do it when the song with the backing track is over. So, for example, during Shady when he introduces the band members he can improv. Or, between numbers like he did on Saturday. Brian could follow him just fine, but Tommy not so much. From my observation, Tommy can reproduce chords and lead lines he has heard someone else do, but he cannot improvise himself. That takes another level of skill, experience, talent, and instinct. And lots and lots of practice.
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Post by DancyGeorgia on Dec 3, 2013 23:30:10 GMT -5
That is up to Adam. He may prefer to work with someone who really gets his style and is willing to do things his way than working with someone with better skills that he is constantly butting heads with. He may believe in Tommy's raw still needs development talent enough to give him that chance. Adam is not yet at the point where he can pay top dollar for a band, especially when he cannot promise when he will be touring again and for how long. By the time he can, Tommy may be greatly improved. He is already a 1000 times better than that first concert where he had to sub for Monte on little notice and 20 times better than he was at the first Trespassing concert. I think Tommy will do everything he can to develop his skills. And as I remember, Brian May told Adam that it was extremely important to work with people that you can get along with. Oh, you deleted your comment about how I must really like Tommy before I got a chance to answer it. I much prefer blues to hard rock. Blues is great music for a number of swing dances. And I never liked the really hard rock even when it was popular. I like a hint of blues in rock music. So that automatically makes me prefer Tommy over many other guitarist who really only want to do rock. I also am a firm believer in the concept that you have to take many variables into consideration when picking people for any project. When I choose student interns to work on my projects at work, I do not choose by grade point average alone or even primarily. I have found that a good above average student who really likes the subject of my project and really wants to do that type of work is often a much better choice than an excellent top of the class student who is not really interested in my project and really wants to do a different project. I've even had an high school drop out who was a really great intern. Over the years, I've developed a sense for picking the best student for a project based on many variables and not just the obvious ones. And I am usually very good at picking students. So, I can see why Adam might prefer Tommy over some other more skilled guitarist. Tommy is a team player and really wants to play Adam's music. He really loves and wants to keep his current job, so he will put the time into developing his skills. But as in many areas, the better you get, the more practice it takes to see an incremental improvement.
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Post by happy on Dec 3, 2013 23:30:45 GMT -5
I asked two questions this morning. Thanks for the answers to the first, but I haven't seen an answer to this one. When we buy Glee cast songs featuring Adam on I-tunes, does that mean Adam will get a teeny tiny bit of money from the download? Anybody out there know how it all works?
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Post by adamrocks on Dec 3, 2013 23:33:00 GMT -5
PurpIegirl @purpiegirll 1h RT BestDamnNiki: adamlambert okay I officially love this guys voice thanks to #GleeSeason5
PurpIegirl @purpiegirll 1h RTMarisa171: got on my computer to look up wedding music and somehow got to Kiss ft Adam Lambert. I don't know how I got here..but I like it
PurpIegirl @purpiegirll 26m lol RTLadyBizarro: Does Adam Lambert swing both ways? Asking for a friend.
PurpIegirl @purpiegirll 15m no translation needed lol RTdannielvlad: Veo a Adam Lambert en Glee y literal tengo múltiples orgasmos... pic.twitter.com/96cGEXa7XV
PurpIegirl @purpiegirll 4m RTSeanEastaugh: adamlambert and Avicii Lay me down is my song for the end of 2013!! massive tune!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 23:33:46 GMT -5
I wonder if the heavy backing track threw Adam and the band. They did WAG without one , for the most part, and seemed to do just fine with everything, including Adam's improvising! Excellent point. So why did they use a backing track? What did singers do before there were in ear monitors? Not every singer wears them now, do they? The first singer I ever noticed fidgeting with ear monitors as much as Adam does was Xtina on the most recent AMA. Without back up singers, he needs the backing tracks.
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Post by nica575 on Dec 3, 2013 23:37:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 23:40:06 GMT -5
I asked two questions this morning. Thanks for the answers to the first, but I haven't seen an answer to this one. When we buy Glee cast songs featuring Adam on I-tunes, does that mean Adam will get a teeny tiny bit of money from the download? Anybody out there know how it all works? I really have no idea, but my guess is "no" for the group numbers. For the solo? Maybe? I do however, think that Adam is getting paid VERY well for each episode.
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Post by nonotme on Dec 3, 2013 23:50:48 GMT -5
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