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Post by Q3 on Dec 15, 2013 1:35:39 GMT -5
Are there really a lot of Adam fans who will not buy a great pop album by Adam? I don't think so. Adam's biggest selling tracks are Adult Pop WWFM and Pop IIHY. The rockish tracks from FYE were not big sellers compared to the pop tracks. Trespassing has very little rock on it. And Cuckoo, which was not promoted is #6 of Adam's tracks on iTunes based on pop bars. The top 11 are...include 1 rock track. The rest are pop, pop-rock or dance-pop. WWFM IIHY FYE No Boundaries ??! BTIKM NCOE TFM (classic rock power ballad) Trespassing MTN Strut Fever Cuckoo I was giving a quick answer to the " he should do rock" meme. I think his fans mostly lie on the Pop side like me. But I am sure there are lots if people dying for him to do a rock album. Which is why I think an eclectic album would be perfect! Me? I'll buy anything he does, as probably all of us here will! Proof is in What Does the Fox Say!! LOL!  I also started to do the "he should do rock" and then thought about it a bit. I think people have said it so much that I started to believe it without thinking about it. With more Queen on the horizon that is a lot of classic rock. Glee adds covers from the 60's to now. If anything come of his work with Avicii on his second album, that may be a dance track. He also has that Mystery Skulls collaboration. That pretty much leaves pop-rock untouched. He also mentioned music that radio would play in his interview with Lydnsey Parker. Sounds like he is taking another shot at pop music. Perhaps it will be classified as rock, but with a strong pop orientation -- like they have done with Lorde. *** New thread is up! |
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Post by adamrocks on Dec 15, 2013 1:42:31 GMT -5
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Post by Q3 on Dec 15, 2013 1:53:17 GMT -5
Good question. Of course, we don't know. My guess, is if the album is dance oriented, like the last one, then I think he is tying into the same 10 - 20 K people, who generated the 80K US record sales for him last time. Give or take a few thousand who have rediscovered him since (Glee, etc). But, if he truly puts out a rock album, I think that his sales will soar. I think there are a lot of people waiting for him to do more rock, and it also would create an automatic news cycle for him, if he did that. My guess, is he could probably double his sales, if he would do that. But, as always, Adam's heart needs to be into it. Btw, I have absolutely no insight and I am pulling these numbers out of thin air. Alright, same question back to you. ETA: More rock with Adam never has to mean only rock. There can be ballads, there can be a funky track, there can be cross-over into alternative music or pop, I just mean more rock centric, without boxing things too much in. This would mean fans bought an average of 4 to 8 copies each. Many people here bought multiple copies but I don't think that is true of most. There are many younger fans who can't afford that. I don't know if that makes the fanbase bigger or a large fragment bought in excess of 8 copies. I think Trespassing has sold about 180K copies in the US. The last number we have is from August 2012, Adam Lambert, Trespassing was at 148,000. There is probably a core group of 2,000 fans who bought 4 to 8 copies, but I doubt it is more than a few thousand. So maybe 15,000 units are from these fans. There is no sign that an Adam Lambert rock album would soar. The biggest selling genres are Urban/Hip Hop and Pop. Adam is not like to shift to Hip Hop. |
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Post by 3ku1 on Dec 15, 2013 2:12:26 GMT -5
This would mean fans bought an average of 4 to 8 copies each. Many people here bought multiple copies but I don't think that is true of most. There are many younger fans who can't afford that. I don't know if that makes the fanbase bigger or a large fragment bought in excess of 8 copies. I think Trespassing has sold about 180K copies in the US. The last number we have is from August 2012, Adam Lambert, Trespassing was at 148,000. There is probably a core group of 2,000 fans who bought 4 to 8 copies, but I doubt it is more than a few thousand. So maybe 15,000 units are from these fans. There is no sign that an Adam Lambert rock album would soar. The biggest selling genres are Urban/Hip Hop and Pop. Adam is not like to shift to Hip Hop. Just chiming in here, this may be a stupid thing to consider, but maybe a reason why their are no signs a Adam Lambert rock album would soar is because up till now their was no one good enough to justify a pop oriented but very rock barm storming album haha? All maybe thats just me. Up till now though I think Pop/Dance as good as Trespassing is just doesen't work for Adam, its a female dominated genre. The biggest selling pop/dance albums are KP, Gaga e.t.c. Clearly Adam is not going Urban/Hip Hop anytime soon, so I still expect a Pop oriented album, just more eceletric and more of a rock vibe. Maybe more of a Darker Rock vibe fused with his current pop stuff, with acoustic guitar ballads just putting it out their. |
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Post by talon on Dec 15, 2013 4:02:22 GMT -5
Just a quick pop in at the end of this thread to say it may not necessarily be a pure ROCK album that would work, but something more...organic. My personal problem with Trespassing and the style of music is that it is to electronic/computer oriented. I'm not saying to abandon pro-tools or drum machines if you don't want...but there is such a difference when real organic music is played by real instruments...it gives the music such a warmth and is such a better bed for vocals. Trespassing and the like is just too...cold. IMO.
One of the best examples I could give was when QPR did Radio Ga Ga in '05 it started with Roger out front and a drum machine behind him singing. At the end, Roger went back to the drum kit and kicked in and Paul sang the end. What a difference when the real drums kick back in...
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Post by Holst on Dec 15, 2013 5:27:42 GMT -5
Just a quick pop in at the end of this thread to say it may not necessarily be a pure ROCK album that would work, but something more...organic. My personal problem with Trespassing and the style of music is that it is to electronic/computer oriented. I'm not saying to abandon pro-tools or drum machines if you don't want...but there is such a difference when real organic music is played by real instruments...it gives the music such a warmth and is such a better bed for vocals. Trespassing and the like is just too...cold. IMO. One of the best examples I could give was when QPR did Radio Ga Ga in '05 it started with Roger out front and a drum machine behind him singing. At the end, Roger went back to the drum kit and kicked in and Paul sang the end. What a difference when the real drums kick back in... For me, Trespassing, the song, is cold because of this. The artificial stomp claps at the beginning annoy me. The Queen example shows a stunning difference. Insomnia strikes--I want to sleep. |
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Post by coo.coo.ca.choo on Dec 15, 2013 11:26:22 GMT -5
I was just thinking -- Adam does a short tour with Queen; the reviews are wonderful; people buy A3 wanting to know more about Adam's music; A3 has a great fusion of rock/pop and radio picks up a couple of songs because the fans are requesting his music.
For me, there is currently no correlation between Adam doing Queen and most of Adam's music. A Queen tour would give him critical acclaim (which he already has) but it may not help him get on the radio or boost album sales. I think Adam has known this from the beginning. Now, though, I think he enjoys the fellows and loves to perform with them. He may just agree to tour a little because he absolutely enjoys it.
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Post by Q3 on Dec 15, 2013 11:56:23 GMT -5
I was just thinking -- Adam does a short tour with Queen; the reviews are wonderful; people buy A3 wanting to know more about Adam's music; A3 has a great fusion of rock/pop and radio picks up a couple of songs because the fans are requesting his music. For me, there is currently no correlation between Adam doing Queen and most of Adam's music. A Queen tour would give him critical acclaim (which he already has) but it may not help him get on the radio or boost album sales. I think Adam has known this from the beginning. Now, though, I think he enjoys the fellows and loves to perform with them. He may just agree to tour a little because he absolutely enjoys it. If Adam and his management team can triangulate something that connect Queen to Adam's current music efforts it would be brilliant. I have trouble seeing it happening. I think they will stay disconnected -- as is Glee -- beyond PR. It is clear he loves to do both. I think Adam understands that he is best off being involved in many different projects and that he does not needs to have single-focus on CHR. Makes sense to me. ** Adam has more connection to current radio in the US than Queen. A Queen mini tour will generate buzz/build awareness that Adam exists. Short of re-recording body language with Adam on lead which I think would be brilliant, hard to connect Queen to now. "Body Language" was about 20 years ahead of its time. It is really an interesting song but most people have forgotten it. |
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