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Post by Q3 on Dec 16, 2013 1:21:23 GMT -5
I remember this exact same thing....where in response to comments, they upped the estimate from $5m to $10m at a stroke so I don't think this can be very scientific. This prompts me to say that, when discussing the rights and wrongs of Adam with Queen - isn't the money an important consideration? He doesn't know how long he will be earning big bucks so perhaps he is just trying to maximise his earnings when the opportunities arise. He isn't at the point yet where he can afford to turn down major earning opportunities, which I assume this is. Does anyone have any idea how much Glee would pay? I wouldn't know if it was $10k or $100k an episode..... Last I checked a month ago he was still at $5 Million. So this was a recent update. They updated a few others also. I don't know how they come up with their figures because they don't say but a person's net worth would be the the value of their home, car, savings, investment ,retirement accounts. Add all that up and than subtract all your debts. What your left would be your net worth. Money is most definitely an important consideration for Adam and Queen. The big Glee stars Lea Michelle, Chris Cofler and Darren Criss make about 75K an episode. I would think Adam as a guest star is probably getting about 50K an episode. Celebrity Net worth is not very accurate but they use a similar method to Fortune -- estimate income based from royalties/advances, concerts, endorsements, licensing deals and performances. Then use a formula for expenses and investments. Then they manually adjust based on what intelligence they can gather. I do not think that money is the driver for Queen -- I think Brian and Roger like to perform, they do not need any more money. And Adam does not seem to be motivated solely by money. He certainly seems to enjoy working with Roger and Brian. |
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Post by Q3 on Dec 16, 2013 1:25:49 GMT -5
My observation is many Adam fans are proud of how courteous he is as a duet partner. For example, look at how he works to make Angie shine in Titanium (from Idol 12 Finale). I also have the impression that many/most Adam fans also love pop music.
I have learned to avoid generalizing about Adam fans. He has a very, very diverse fanbase with a range of opinions on everything. My impression of many/most Adam fans in the US is they dislike most pop music. I find they put down a lot of pop artists not named Adam. The ones that do like pop music always wondered how it is that Adam has fans who dislike pop music but follow someone that wants to do pop music. I think if anyone else put out the music Adam makes most of his fans wouldn't buy it. That has been my observation. I do not think any other artist could put out the music Adam makes. But I also like many other artists across almost every genre. Probably not a lot of Hip Hop fans in Adam's fanbase but beyond that, it is pretty diverse when it comes to musical taste. I am quite confident that your assessment of Adam fans not liking pop music does not reflect reality. I assume you have never been to a US Adam concert. *** New thread is up. |
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Post by bridgeymah on Dec 16, 2013 1:26:04 GMT -5
I think their are some Adam fans who either A. Think all music on radio is crap so Adam shouldent collab with anyone who's knowhere near Adam vocally or 2. Adam shouldent have to compromise his vocals on a track to suit another artist. But in reality collobarating is a relevant part of pop music, and if Adam wants top 40 and he clearly does then collabs are the way to go. The general music consumer dont care for the vocals, its more the level of catchiness and the songs hook, and of course name recognition helps. And considering Adams lack of radio presence, having a Lambert penned song feat Katy Perry can't hurt. My observation is many Adam fans are proud of how courteous he is as a duet partner. For example, look at how he works to make Angie shine in Titanium (from Idol 12 Finale). I also have the impression that many/most Adam fans also love pop music. I have learned to avoid generalizing about Adam fans. He has a very, very diverse fanbase with a range of opinions on everything. Adam appears to go out of his way to make his collaborators look good - from Allison on Idol all the way to most recent with Fun and Queen. I don't doubt that a collab with KP or any other artist would be any different. I like pop music (and rock and bluegrass and classical and folk and alternative and and and). Would I buy a collab between Adam and KP... probably. Others I would be happy to see him collab with include Pink; KD Lang; Alison Krauss; Tina Arena; Kate Bush (just think OMG); ... the list goes on. |
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Post by Daenerys on Dec 16, 2013 1:33:06 GMT -5
Last I checked a month ago he was still at $5 Million. So this was a recent update. They updated a few others also. I don't know how they come up with their figures because they don't say but a person's net worth would be the the value of their home, car, savings, investment ,retirement accounts. Add all that up and than subtract all your debts. What your left would be your net worth. Money is most definitely an important consideration for Adam and Queen. The big Glee stars Lea Michelle, Chris Cofler and Darren Criss make about 75K an episode. I would think Adam as a guest star is probably getting about 50K an episode. Celebrity Net worth is not very accurate but they use a similar method to Fortune -- estimate income based from royalties/advances, concerts, endorsements, licensing deals and performances. Then use a formula for expenses and investments. Then they manually adjust based on what intelligence they can gather. I do not think that money is the driver for Queen -- I think Brian and Roger like to perform, they do not need any more money. And Adam does not seem to be motivated solely by money. He certainly seems to enjoy working with Roger and Brian. Queen don't need the money. I do think Adam enjoys working with Queen and may not be solely motivated by money but I'm sure his management is. They get a percentage of his earnings. If the pay wasn't worth it I don't think his management would be at the negotiating table. They have a business to run. |
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Post by Daenerys on Dec 16, 2013 1:43:50 GMT -5
My impression of many/most Adam fans in the US is they dislike most pop music. I find they put down a lot of pop artists not named Adam. The ones that do like pop music always wondered how it is that Adam has fans who dislike pop music but follow someone that wants to do pop music. I think if anyone else put out the music Adam makes most of his fans wouldn't buy it. That has been my observation. I do not think any other artist could put out the music Adam makes. But I also like many other artists across almost every genre. Probably not a lot of Hip Hop fans in Adam's fanbase but beyond that, it is pretty diverse when it comes to musical taste. I am quite confident that your assessment of Adam fans not liking pop music does not reflect reality. I assume you have never been to a US Adam concert.*** New thread is up. I'm pretty confident my assessment of most Adam fans not liking pop music is point on. I also have been to several Adam's concert. NYC being one of them, the most diverse city in the country. Half of Adam's songs on both albums were originally demos or written by someone else. At least the songs that were put out for radio. When Adam writes his music 100% than you can say no other artist could put out the music he makes because authentically it wouldn't work for them. |
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Post by Q3 on Dec 16, 2013 1:49:37 GMT -5
Celebrity Net worth is not very accurate but they use a similar method to Fortune -- estimate income based from royalties/advances, concerts, endorsements, licensing deals and performances. Then use a formula for expenses and investments. Then they manually adjust based on what intelligence they can gather. I do not think that money is the driver for Queen -- I think Brian and Roger like to perform, they do not need any more money. And Adam does not seem to be motivated solely by money. He certainly seems to enjoy working with Roger and Brian. Queen don't need the money. I do think Adam enjoys working with Queen and may not be solely motivated by money but I'm sure his management is. They get a percentage of his earnings. If the pay wasn't worth it I don't think his management would be at the negotiating table. They have a business to run. DMG's job is to maximize Adam's revenue -- that is what Artist's management does. But they are also responsible for their artists' long-term development. DMG is known to be very meticulous, patient and artist-centric. Adam said the highlight of 2013 was getting to play at iHRMF with Queen. It was said without qualification or hesitation. I am sure that he really wants to perform with them again. Adam has developed a close working relationship with Brian and Roger -- something very few people have ever done. There have been many one-off concerts, or special event collabs, but this is very different than most of the Queen collaborations -- and there have been a lot of collaborations. ETA: Your post about Adam's music not being written by him misses my entire point -- any song sung by Adam cannot be replicated for me by any other artist. |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Dec 16, 2013 1:57:32 GMT -5
I'm pretty confident my assessment of most Adam fans not liking pop music is point on. I also have been to several Adam's concert. NYC being one of them, the most diverse city in the country. Eh, I'll respectfully disagree with you on that one. While there are obviously a good number of Adam fans who sort of "put up" with the pop because they really would enjoy rock or classical more if they had their druthers, my personal experience is that the majority of Adam fans truly enjoy pop. [grins] And speaking for myself, I listen to the radio going to/from work, and Top 40 is the vast majority of my listening time. The Adam fandom is indeed quite diverse. |
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Post by HoppersSkippersMiners on Dec 16, 2013 2:01:35 GMT -5
[grins]
ATOP is currently my safety zone. Its 2am here on the US eastern seaboard, and my husband is still in the kitchen making bourbon balls. It looks like the kitchen just threw up powdered sugar.
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Post by geezlouise on Dec 16, 2013 2:13:40 GMT -5
I am quite confident that your assessment of Adam fans not liking pop music does not reflect reality. I'm pretty confident my assessment of most Adam fans not liking pop music is point on. I also have been to several Adam's concert. NYC being one of them, the most diverse city in the country. Half of Adam's songs on both albums were originally demos or written by someone else. At least the songs that were put out for radio. When Adam writes his music 100% than you can say no other artist could put out the music he makes because authentically it wouldn't work for them. In just the last few months the artists I have seen perform live include, Imagine Dragons, fun., Pink, Drake and THE Mrs. Carter! My iTunes genre lists are heavy on Pop, Rock and Alt, but include Dance, Electronic, Hip Hop/Rap, R&B, Singer/Songwriter, Blues, Metal, Soundtrack, Jazz and a little Country. I definitely don't fit your generalizations. |
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Post by bridgeymah on Dec 16, 2013 2:13:56 GMT -5
[grins] ATOP is currently my safety zone. Its 2am here on the US eastern seaboard, and my husband is still in the kitchen making bourbon balls. It looks like the kitchen just threw up powdered sugar. LOL my husband is cooking fish for dinner while listening to something instrumental and vaguely middle eastern on Pandora... Always interesting perspectives to send through. Even though mostly my mileage varies I'm never bored! |
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