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Post by shimoli710 on Feb 10, 2014 1:37:21 GMT -5
I don't know if this Mad World vid has been posted...I may have overlooked it. It's from a different perspective and you can see Adam's facial expressions, etc. better.
FABULOUS! Thank you for posting this vid Bamafan.
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Post by stardust on Feb 10, 2014 1:42:08 GMT -5
momtomany, you have a lovely, evolved soul!! Thank you for the wise words!!!
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Post by shimoli710 on Feb 10, 2014 1:50:09 GMT -5
WARNING: Long-assed post about vocal technique. Feel free to scroll if it is not your thing. Someone commented that there were a number of posts about beards, hair cuts, etc and very little about the performance last night. I guess that is true. But, after you say it is gorgeous (which is nothing new for Adam. We have had five years of "gorgeous" vocals at this point), what is new? I did have some thoughts on the voice after listening a couple more times. So, to balance things out, here goes. Just like hair styles and facial fuzz or lack there of, people's preferences for singing styles and voice sounds is individual and influenced by their own life experiences. Truth in Advertising disclaimer: As y'all know, my experience growing up is classical music with a smattering of musical theater, choral music, and jazz. I have formal training in piano, violin and voice. That's my "bias." Adam's voice is beautiful to me for many reasons that have nothing to do with the way he looks, moves, dresses, or talks. First and foremost is the tones and textures of his voice. It is bright, pure, clear, ringing, with a richness and fullness to it. This underlies all of his different sounds. He can add roughness or gravel when he chooses, but that tone is still there. It is one of the main things that differentiates him from most other pop singers of today. And, it comes from his years of formal, classical training. An individual does not roll out of bed sounding like that. It is not "natural." An untrained singer sings with the same voice, the same "technique" as they talk. Lots of chest, and, when reaching for high notes and/or singing loudly, lots of push and brute force. You hear that push in the big belting divas. You hear it in Bruno's voice especially when he goes for the high notes (as he once said, he wrote a song in the key of "what the fuck"). It is a sound many people are very familiar with and enjoy; even covet in their pop stars. When one studies voice in the more classical style, one learns to focus, even "aim" the sound toward certain resonators in the body and head. These resonators naturally amplify the sound and add layers of harmonics to it which makes it sound fuller, and richer, with that "ring" I love in Adam's voice. A student of voice also learns how to adjust muscles and air flow to smoothly hit low notes and high notes that are often beyond what an untrained singer is able to hit. The student learns to move up and down their range without revealing these adjustments in the tone or sound of their voice, so that the voice character is consistent from low to high. A goal is to make the singing sound effortless, free and floating no matter what note and no matter what volume. Another emphasis in voice training is overall consistency and control. The singer aims to be able to sing any note in their range pianissimo (very softly) to fortissimo (very loudly) at will. The accomplished, trained singer's sound is not controlled by the song, the melody line or the range. He or she CHOOSES how to sing the note or phrase dependent on interpretation of the melody and lyrics. These singers can also sing musical and lyrical phrases of various lengths, breathing where it makes sense for the interpretation rather than where they run out of breath. They actually plan the phrasing and breathing for maxium effect. As an example, in Mad World, Adam frequently sings, "Look right through me (breath). Look right through me AND I find it kind of funny (breath)," extending the musical phrase to build impact, rather than to take a breath after the second "look right thru me" where most singers break the phrase. If you listen to untrained singers, you will notice that they sometimes (or often) break up lyrical and musical phrases to take a breath, sometimes even breathing between the syllables of a word. (As in illustration, listen to the Fun singer's performance of Somebody to Love as opposed to Adam's.) A trained singer's performance is also consistent from note to note, phrase to phrase because their voice is totally under their control. Untrained singers often sound strong and full on some notes, wimpy or wispy or gravelly on others, strained on others, and truncate still others, cutting them off rather than sustaining them (because they cannot). There are many other techniques and characteristics of a formally, classically trained voice, but I will stop here for now. My point is that Adam's voice demonstrates these characteristics in every song he sings. They were beautifully used in his performance last night. No matter how loud or soft he is singing, his voice never sounds strained or pushed. He doesn't sound like he is reaching for a note. He never sounds like he is working hard to produce the note or the volume. He totally chooses when to power out a phrase and when to caress it delicately. This is one reason Adam's voice FEELS so good to me. It FEELS effortless. It FEELS totally within his control and comfort. From start to finish, I know that Adam's "got this" and I can chill out and enjoy. I sometimes take for granted Adam's sound and technique. I even get a bit lulled into thinking that is "normal." Then something I hear will smack me upside the head and I will again be blown away with his voice. Most recently, I listened to Renee Fleming sing the National Anthem at the Superbowl. Some folks HATED her rendition. It sounded too different, too "opera-y", too "posh" or something. To me, it was a breath of fresh air. Such pure, resonant tone. Such effortless delivery. So totally in her control, her wheel-house. I listened, right after, to Whitney's quintessential rendition of the NA at the Superbowl in 1992?, and, with my bias, her voice sounded pushed, strained, heavy-handed. I acknowledge that as a pop diva rendition, it sets the gold standard. With my bias, I enjoyed Renee's much more. It FELT better. With Renee's example of tone, resonance, control and effortlessness, I went back and listened to Adam sing Queen. Two very different performers, two very different sets of material, but the same mastery of vocal performance and technique. Whew! You wanted a post about Adam's singing? Sorry, got a little carried away. Maybe I should have just said, "He sounded incredible last night" and left it at that.
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Post by betty on Feb 10, 2014 2:21:24 GMT -5
I don't know if this Mad World vid has been posted...I may have overlooked it. It's from a different perspective and you can see Adam's facial expressions, etc. better.
FABULOUS! Thank you for posting this vid Bamafan. OMG, I forgot to say how much I LOVED the "Mad world" performance and especially the ending! I always admire his ability to switch his voice so effortlessly from "soft and smooth" to "powerful" within one song!
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Post by seoulmate on Feb 10, 2014 3:34:00 GMT -5
Not sure if I'll even post this. Because I really don't have anything new to say. It's been an interesting day here. And I've seen lots and lots of days here. I have no issue with talk of AFL's hair, Melvin, style, piercings . . . I just love to see what is new in him, on him, around him. If he's up to something, he has a very intelligent mom and dad who'll give their two cents - and that'll be all he needs (and maybe more). What are we here? A fandom? a fan club? Until Planet Fierce and Adamtopia, I never went to a 'site' before; and to this day I'm not sure what I should be called, as a participant. By whatever name we choose, I think we're pretty grounded. We know we don't 'know' Adam. I count myself among the many who know more about this man (who couldn't call me by name) than I know about many of my close friends. This place is a wonderful, contemplative, imaginative fantasy about reality. He is real; our feelings are real; but the reality of our connection is, in every way, speculative and full of imagery. So what if we criticize his facial hair? So what if we are concerned about his nose piercing? So what if his haircut is too short on the sides? So what if we like/don't like the suit, the shoes, the tatt, the tie?? It doesn't matter! We can opinionate until the cows come home and it will have filled an hour, a day - - but, really, we are not going to change a thing in this man's life. That, alone, should allow anyone here to critique every aspect of this PUBLIC FIGURE at any time. If it doesn't suit me, I scroll. There are days where the cup seems half-full. There are days when this site screams with joy and overflows with glee. There are days of angst over Adam's future, and days of angst over finding the ticket to a sold-out performance. We are as unique and unfulfilled as anyone in the grocery line. We are as unique and amazingly fulfilled as other Adamtopians who have discovered and been forever changed by the voice, the persona, the alien from Planet Fierce. I want everyone who comes here to be unafraid - just as Adam is unafraid. Post what you will. A voice, a listener, will hear you. We will disagree. Sometimes the lack of response - good or bad - will hurt as much as the disagreement. But we do connect. If we are fortunate enough to meet, that slim connection will forge the bond. Believing in Adam and his excellence sows a seed of belief in ourselves and in our Universe. We don't need to agree. We need to have the courage to say how we feel. Believe in how we feel; and learn from others. Simple as that.
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Post by rpeura on Feb 10, 2014 4:45:22 GMT -5
Oops! Sorry I caused so much trouble today. It was never my intention to say that we should all be happy happy all the time. I think when comments were made that he was growing facial hair to cover his chin fat and shaving the sides of his head to make himself look thinner, that is what really kind of freaked me out. I realize that fans will nitpick every little thing, but I wouldn't want him to read things like that. Adam looks better than he has ever looked and I think he is just trying to start over again. My opinion is that he really started off on the wrong foot after idol and was putting other things before the voice, but has since learned, probably from being around pros such as Queen and Nile Rodgers, that his voice is what sets him apart from everyone else. It's not his sexuality or his look or his actions on stage, it is the VOICE and I think he gets that now. I think this is the real Adam we are seeing in all his natural glory. He is simply gorgeous to look at and I believe he is just loving the way he looks and feels right now because he is at his best and has learned who he really is. I will say that I always felt that Adam had some growing up to do and now I think we should just celebrate the new Adam and the new directions he will probably be taking with his career. I'm excited for this year because I think Adam has finally found himself and will make better decisions all around for his life and career. and welcome jomama2 ! I love this forum and I am very thankful for the people who are posting pics and vids We can disagree but in the same time we respect each other. And the best of all we have a mutual target of admiration. Adam and his fandom have opened a new wonderful sector of life for me. I'm convinced that I get extra years for my life with Adam and his fans
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Post by coo.coo.ca.choo on Feb 10, 2014 8:53:52 GMT -5
WARNING: Long-assed post about vocal technique. Feel free to scroll if it is not your thing. Someone commented that there were a number of posts about beards, hair cuts, etc and very little about the performance last night. I guess that is true. But, after you say it is gorgeous (which is nothing new for Adam. We have had five years of "gorgeous" vocals at this point), what is new? I did have some thoughts on the voice after listening a couple more times. So, to balance things out, here goes. Just like hair styles and facial fuzz or lack there of, people's preferences for singing styles and voice sounds is individual and influenced by their own life experiences. Truth in Advertising disclaimer: As y'all know, my experience growing up is classical music with a smattering of musical theater, choral music, and jazz. I have formal training in piano, violin and voice. That's my "bias." Adam's voice is beautiful to me for many reasons that have nothing to do with the way he looks, moves, dresses, or talks. First and foremost is the tones and textures of his voice. It is bright, pure, clear, ringing, with a richness and fullness to it. This underlies all of his different sounds. He can add roughness or gravel when he chooses, but that tone is still there. It is one of the main things that differentiates him from most other pop singers of today. And, it comes from his years of formal, classical training. An individual does not roll out of bed sounding like that. It is not "natural." An untrained singer sings with the same voice, the same "technique" as they talk. Lots of chest, and, when reaching for high notes and/or singing loudly, lots of push and brute force. You hear that push in the big belting divas. You hear it in Bruno's voice especially when he goes for the high notes (as he once said, he wrote a song in the key of "what the fuck"). It is a sound many people are very familiar with and enjoy; even covet in their pop stars. When one studies voice in the more classical style, one learns to focus, even "aim" the sound toward certain resonators in the body and head. These resonators naturally amplify the sound and add layers of harmonics to it which makes it sound fuller, and richer, with that "ring" I love in Adam's voice. A student of voice also learns how to adjust muscles and air flow to smoothly hit low notes and high notes that are often beyond what an untrained singer is able to hit. The student learns to move up and down their range without revealing these adjustments in the tone or sound of their voice, so that the voice character is consistent from low to high. A goal is to make the singing sound effortless, free and floating no matter what note and no matter what volume. Another emphasis in voice training is overall consistency and control. The singer aims to be able to sing any note in their range pianissimo (very softly) to fortissimo (very loudly) at will. The accomplished, trained singer's sound is not controlled by the song, the melody line or the range. He or she CHOOSES how to sing the note or phrase dependent on interpretation of the melody and lyrics. These singers can also sing musical and lyrical phrases of various lengths, breathing where it makes sense for the interpretation rather than where they run out of breath. They actually plan the phrasing and breathing for maxium effect. As an example, in Mad World, Adam frequently sings, "Look right through me (breath). Look right through me AND I find it kind of funny (breath)," extending the musical phrase to build impact, rather than to take a breath after the second "look right thru me" where most singers break the phrase. If you listen to untrained singers, you will notice that they sometimes (or often) break up lyrical and musical phrases to take a breath, sometimes even breathing between the syllables of a word. (As in illustration, listen to the Fun singer's performance of Somebody to Love as opposed to Adam's.) A trained singer's performance is also consistent from note to note, phrase to phrase because their voice is totally under their control. Untrained singers often sound strong and full on some notes, wimpy or wispy or gravelly on others, strained on others, and truncate still others, cutting them off rather than sustaining them (because they cannot). There are many other techniques and characteristics of a formally, classically trained voice, but I will stop here for now. My point is that Adam's voice demonstrates these characteristics in every song he sings. They were beautifully used in his performance last night. No matter how loud or soft he is singing, his voice never sounds strained or pushed. He doesn't sound like he is reaching for a note. He never sounds like he is working hard to produce the note or the volume. He totally chooses when to power out a phrase and when to caress it delicately. This is one reason Adam's voice FEELS so good to me. It FEELS effortless. It FEELS totally within his control and comfort. From start to finish, I know that Adam's "got this" and I can chill out and enjoy. I sometimes take for granted Adam's sound and technique. I even get a bit lulled into thinking that is "normal." Then something I hear will smack me upside the head and I will again be blown away with his voice. Most recently, I listened to Renee Fleming sing the National Anthem at the Superbowl. Some folks HATED her rendition. It sounded too different, too "opera-y", too "posh" or something. To me, it was a breath of fresh air. Such pure, resonant tone. Such effortless delivery. So totally in her control, her wheel-house. I listened, right after, to Whitney's quintessential rendition of the NA at the Superbowl in 1992?, and, with my bias, her voice sounded pushed, strained, heavy-handed. I acknowledge that as a pop diva rendition, it sets the gold standard. With my bias, I enjoyed Renee's much more. It FELT better. With Renee's example of tone, resonance, control and effortlessness, I went back and listened to Adam sing Queen. Two very different performers, two very different sets of material, but the same mastery of vocal performance and technique. Whew! You wanted a post about Adam's singing? Sorry, got a little carried away. Maybe I should have just said, "He sounded incredible last night" and left it at that. Now I understand more comprehensively how Adam's voice is truly an instrument that he has studied and learned to play well.
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Post by rpeura on Feb 10, 2014 10:35:28 GMT -5
Count me on team-AFL-can-do-anything-he-wants-and-look-any-way-he-wants. I'll take this gorgeous man however I can get him, and he was absolutely STUNNING last night. I can, also, listen to any song of his a hundred times because he will always make it sound new and fresh and my old ears will quiver like innocent virgins being touched for the first time by his amazing...erm...INSTRUMENT. I honestly cannot find fault with him and never feel the urge to criticize any of his choices--not even the jaw-dropping face/crotch thrust and kiss felt round the world! He FASCINATES me. He can eat crackers in my bed any time sporting a full beard with the frankingump haircut while wearing the Elmo coat and aqua board shorts! Adam had me at "Mama" and I've been on the ride of my life ever since and plan to hang on for every twist and turn to come. That's why I must take a small exception to the sentiment that Adam "got off on the wrong foot and is just now discovering who he is and expressing his true self and now realizes he only needs his voice"....uh...stuff. Adam Lambert has known who he "is" for a very long time. Zodiac Show, anyone? He stormed the most popular television show of his time and made it his BITCH! The Idol tour shoulda been called, "An Evening With Adam Lambert and Friends". The album, "For Your Entertainment", was his biggest seller producing his only radio hits and a Grammy nomination. It, also, produced his only official world wide tour that sold out venues and won him critical acclaim. He has said repeatedly that he was allowed massive freedom while compiling this album in a short period of time and had some of the biggest names in the business working with him. The tour was his baby showcasing his tremendous talent, creativity, and showmanship. IMHO, it was theatrical performance art at it's best. The fun and excitement of the Glam Nation Tour experience and the friends I made at the time will always be some of my best memories. To be honest...I miss the sensual energy and edgy originality of that time period. And, yes, through it all the voice was sublime. It still is. It seems to be even better in fact.
So....to state he is just "now" finding himself does not compute. Is he changing? Apparently. Hell, I'm still changing and growing as a person even at my advanced age. He is still a young man and we have had the privilege of watching him evolve over the last five years. I feel in my bones the best is yet to come. Is it because he is getting better advice and direction? I doubt it. Adam strikes me as a man who knows his own mind and capabilities and is in firm control of his own career and life course. His hair, clothes, acting, and musical choices are all an expression of his drive to create. The fact that they are always changing is what makes him so interesting to follow. He has a tremendous voice and is a wonderful interpreter of songs without a doubt. But, he is so much more than that. He is a performer. He is an entertainer. He is an artist to the core. And HE was--and is--in charge.
OMG!! I think YOU just gave me an orgasm! Best thing I've read in days!! I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! ^^ Hell ya! ^^ ETA: Please post more often!
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Post by adamrocks on Feb 10, 2014 10:37:27 GMT -5
Not sure if I'll even post this. Because I really don't have anything new to say. It's been an interesting day here. And I've seen lots and lots of days here. I have no issue with talk of AFL's hair, Melvin, style, piercings . . . I just love to see what is new in him, on him, around him. If he's up to something, he has a very intelligent mom and dad who'll give their two cents - and that'll be all he needs (and maybe more). What are we here? A fandom? a fan club? Until Planet Fierce and Adamtopia, I never went to a 'site' before; and to this day I'm not sure what I should be called, as a participant. By whatever name we choose, I think we're pretty grounded. We know we don't 'know' Adam. I count myself among the many who know more about this man (who couldn't call me by name) than I know about many of my close friends. This place is a wonderful, contemplative, imaginative fantasy about reality. He is real; our feelings are real; but the reality of our connection is, in every way, speculative and full of imagery. So what if we criticize his facial hair? So what if we are concerned about his nose piercing? So what if his haircut is too short on the sides? So what if we like/don't like the suit, the shoes, the tatt, the tie?? It doesn't matter! We can opinionate until the cows come home and it will have filled an hour, a day - - but, really, we are not going to change a thing in this man's life. That, alone, should allow anyone here to critique every aspect of this PUBLIC FIGURE at any time. If it doesn't suit me, I scroll. There are days where the cup seems half-full. There are days when this site screams with joy and overflows with glee. There are days of angst over Adam's future, and days of angst over finding the ticket to a sold-out performance. We are as unique and unfulfilled as anyone in the grocery line. We are as unique and amazingly fulfilled as other Adamtopians who have discovered and been forever changed by the voice, the persona, the alien from Planet Fierce. I want everyone who comes here to be unafraid - just as Adam is unafraid. Post what you will. A voice, a listener, will hear you. We will disagree. Sometimes the lack of response - good or bad - will hurt as much as the disagreement. But we do connect. If we are fortunate enough to meet, that slim connection will forge the bond. Believing in Adam and his excellence sows a seed of belief in ourselves and in our Universe. We don't need to agree. We need to have the courage to say how we feel. Believe in how we feel; and learn from others. Simple as that. I went to bed last night before Momtomany posted this great post! I so agree with what you say in your 'poet laureate' way! As I mentioned earlier I love the diversity we have on Adamtopia and I look forward to all the different and stimulating conversation we have here. We are a respectful group who appreciate the freedom we feel here to express our feelings about our common denominator...AFL!
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Post by melliemom on Feb 10, 2014 10:51:39 GMT -5
twitter.com/metheridgeOMG,read this .. Sounds like Plans being made for a duet between Adam and Melissa ,Because of A tweet :D Got to get out for a walk even though It's snowing.. Geez
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